2010 Classes

First topic message reminder :

Ok, 2009 was an awsome year. With that behind us, the next question is will the classes be changing for 2010?

This is only a discussion and an opioin thread.

Aldo wrote:

And start selling beer at the convetion centers. You know how much louder you are when I am Fukced up

You know what Aldo your GREAT that is why I love ya!!!!



At my shows I actually have a competition for newbies and they LOVE IT, but they can only run it for so long before moving up to USACi classes. So far so good though on it.

bjfails wrote:

Stock 12v and Stock 16v no PS just have the 2 stock classes, if USACi had that I would be back next year.

while i agree on stock 12 and stock 16, I dont understand why you wouldnt be back next year either way?

i say leave it for another year or so. see how next years finals go.

Me personally, I am content with the class structure right now but if I had to change anything I would agree with all Street Beat classes going to 60 seconds but I'm sure wayne would charge like $1000 to make the term lab go to 60 seconds, lol

just make a requirement for sb to have 200 points and call it a day

Amen brother, I never understood the whole "all you have to do is compete once, not even win, and get an automatic invite" I agree wholy. earn 200 points and get the invite.

When there are 160's in all classes then the best buy setups will stay home forever. Its like putting a civic in a nascar race. why bother?

dbdaddy wrote:

When there are 160's in all classes then the best buy setups will stay home forever. Its like putting a civic in a nascar race. why bother?

Which is why I said there should be an amateur class. I was talking to the shop owner i buy my stuff from (also my team leader), he had a good thought. Make the pro classes the same as the stock classes, and have them done at every show. People who are known competitors (like myself, my team, some of the other guys who have been around and the judge knows it) go into pro, while the guys off the street stay in stock.

I agree with the amateur class, this would get a lot more people involved. I have a lot of customers that ask if there are any competitions around but they don't have the money to play in most of the classes listed. Im sure this class will lead to more people in the lanes and will help with more long term members.

oh and leave trunk alone I don't want to start building and have it yanked.

An amature class would be good but for the people who were around when street beat first started, streat beat was to be an amature class and was only going to be allowed for one year to a competitor, then they needed to move up. USACI did not follow thru with this detail. I think all the clases need to reflect the slow ecconomy to allow people to afford any class they want to be competitive and it allows for more competitors.

JustinTD wrote:

dbdaddy wrote:

When there are 160's in all classes then the best buy setups will stay home forever. Its like putting a civic in a nascar race. why bother?

Which is why I said there should be an amateur class. I was talking to the shop owner i buy my stuff from (also my team leader), he had a good thought. Make the pro classes the same as the stock classes, and have them done at every show. People who are known competitors (like myself, my team, some of the other guys who have been around and the judge knows it) go into pro, while the guys off the street stay in stock.

THEY OFFER LOCAL CLASS THATS GREAT....THEY DONT NEED TO ADD ANY MORE CLASS.... EITHER YOU ARE GOING TO COMPERTE OR YOUR NOT.... AND WE TRYED A AMATUER CLASS BEFORE AND ALL THAT HAPPEN WAS TEAMS MEMBER WOULD MOVE UP AND THEN THERE WAS A NEW GUY RIGHT THERE TO TAKE HIS PLACE...SO IT DOESNT WORK...

RXZILLA wrote:

An amature class would be good but for the people who were around when street beat first started, streat beat was to be an amature class and was only going to be allowed for one year to a competitor, then they needed to move up. USACI did not follow thru with this detail. I think all the clases need to reflect the slow ecconomy to allow people to afford any class they want to be competitive and it allows for more competitors.

WELL WITH THAT SAID IF THEY WANT TO WIN THEY HAVE TO SPEND MONEY.... NEXT POINT IS IF A VET IS STILL GOING TO WOOP UP ON A NEW GUY NOMATTER HOW MUCH POWER THERE IS....A GUY OFF THE STREET WILL STILL GET HIS BUT BEAT.L....

mel,



Problem is lower classes dont allow what you mention. if anything its opposite. You spend more money to be competitive to buy the best rated amp. Atleast with them a little more open the cheap amps with 2 and 4 ohm rattings can play in the classes that we have.

And at the end of the day rds10 is right. wanna fix it. say anyone in stock that attends 2 world finals in a 5 yr period must move to prostock. this would not be hard to track. Excel is a great tool and they already register.

Also. "Team" cars will be considered pro. to avoid any gray areas.

Or create a class that is not offered at finals for all the locals to play in, and say, stock and ps are open classses other than 3x and regionals... that creates the needed space for locals to get out and get a trophy and have fun, and also they get to see the big dogs, and see if they wanna go at it or not.

well we have local class for new blood to play in..... if they dont like that well sucks to be them..... i got my ass handed to mein my grand prix.... so i went out and bought a crx... if youare a true competior you will spend the money to be competed.... if you cantr afford to be loud than you are in the wrong hobby.... and you can bet on that..... everyone here started out at the bottom and learnd and got louder.....

17 Classes are way too many. I say......

Eliminate Stock 3001+
Eliminate Trunk (they can play in Stock and Pro Stock)
Eliminate Super Port but use Super Port rules for Port Wars. (no globe)
Super Mod = Open
Combine Modified down to 3 power classes

That would make 12 power classes plus Street Beat. Maybe less trophies for judges to buy would equal lower entry fees so more competitors can do multiple classes.

give trumk more than one year thats like saying move finals this year didnt work again

I say merge Stock/ProStock 1801 and up into one class, create amateur class's that follow the mod power guildelines. anyone who competes for more than 2 years, or is a 'team' car, is in stock, the other people play in amateur.

JustinTD wrote:

I say merge Stock/ProStock 1801 and up into one class, create amateur class's that follow the mod power guildelines. anyone who competes for more than 2 years, or is a 'team' car, is in stock, the other people play in amateur.

amateur will not work. all i have to do is pick a guy i seem to like in that class. tell him how to build his vehicle identical to mine and wham newbies get rocked still. you gotta pay to play. if you wanna win its gonna take time and money no matter how they change the classes.

YUPPERS

And at the end of the day rds10 is right. wanna fix it. say anyone in stock that attends 2 world finals in a 5 yr period must move to prostock. this would not be hard to track. Excel is a great tool and they already register.

Also. "Team" cars will be considered pro. to avoid any gray areas.

bruce this is a great idea. 2 finals pro stock no excuses!!!!!

Not sure how it would work but i would like to see something along the lines of a 0-1000 stock street beat and 1001-up stock street beat. Not sure how others would feel about this, but i would like to do streetbeat but don't want to wall my car off to compete nationally.... Streetbeat is the fastest growing class anyway this will make newcomers want to compete more. This class should be left playing for 30 sec. even if the streetbeat class goes to 60 seconds because of stock battery limitaions. This would be the best way to get newcomers in my opinion.... just my 2 cents.

leave it all be...

JustinTD wrote:

I say merge Stock/ProStock 1801 and up into one class, create amateur class's that follow the mod power guildelines. anyone who competes for more than 2 years, or is a 'team' car, is in stock, the other people play in amateur.

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dude we have had amateur class and they didnt work on a national level... now we have local class that works fine for new ppl to play in

newbie wrote:

And at the end of the day rds10 is right. wanna fix it. say anyone in stock that attends 2 world finals in a 5 yr period must move to prostock. this would not be hard to track. Excel is a great tool and they already register.

Also. "Team" cars will be considered pro. to avoid any gray areas.

bruce this is a great idea. 2 finals pro stock no excuses!!!!!

Not sure how it would work but i would like to see something along the lines of a 0-1000 stock street beat and 1001-up stock street beat. Not sure how others would feel about this, but i would like to do streetbeat but don't want to wall my car off to compete nationally.... Streetbeat is the fastest growing class anyway this will make newcomers want to compete more. This class should be left playing for 30 sec. even if the streetbeat class goes to 60 seconds because of stock battery limitaions. This would be the best way to get newcomers in my opinion.... just my 2 cents.

been there done that and guess what the whole moving up think doesnt work.... we use to have basic stock and it was win top 3 at finals and you had to move up..... then the next year there was another crx with the same build in the same class and guess what it was like the other guy never left....

RXZILLA wrote:

An amature class would be good but for the people who were around when street beat first started, streat beat was to be an amature class and was only going to be allowed for one year to a competitor, then they needed to move up. USACI did not follow thru with this detail. I think all the clases need to reflect the slow ecconomy to allow people to afford any class they want to be competitive and it allows for more competitors.

i dont remember anything like that being said. they did away wih bacic stock because there wasnt enough ppl that did it. then streetbeat was added to draw more ppl in. guess what it worked. streetbeat is just fine the way it is.

SPL2K wrote:

17 Classes are way too many. I say......

Eliminate Stock 3001+
Eliminate Trunk (they can play in Stock and Pro Stock)
Eliminate Super Port but use Super Port rules for Port Wars. (no globe)
Super Mod = Open
Combine Modified down to 3 power classes

That would make 12 power classes plus Street Beat. Maybe less trophies for judges to buy would equal lower entry fees so more competitors can do multiple classes.

I agree. mod 0-2000, 2001-4000, 4001+
I also like the single sm class.
And 12v stock and 16v stock 0-1000, 1001-2000, 3001+ in both

Na stock do it like pro is now 0-600/601-1800/1800 plus

mod4000 wrote:

SPL2K wrote:

17 Classes are way too many. I say......

Eliminate Stock 3001+
Eliminate Trunk (they can play in Stock and Pro Stock)
Eliminate Super Port but use Super Port rules for Port Wars. (no globe)
Super Mod = Open
Combine Modified down to 3 power classes

That would make 12 power classes plus Street Beat. Maybe less trophies for judges to buy would equal lower entry fees so more competitors can do multiple classes.

I agree. mod 0-2000, 2001-4000, 4001+
I also like the single sm class.
And 12v stock and 16v stock 0-1000, 1001-2000, 3001+ in both

mod and stock should have the same power classes but i like that stock and prostock range 0-1k 1-3k 3k+ make all the classes like that stock 12v stock 16v and mod make for easy transition from one to the other

power power power power power....

how about get rid of stock all together... just have prostock and then replace it with a burp cone area class... ding ding ding... like a stock 1 class
stock 2 class
stock 3 class
with the same cone area ratings as streetbeat...