2010 Classes

Ok, 2009 was an awsome year. With that behind us, the next question is will the classes be changing for 2010?

please allow for half the season to pass before new classes will be introduced/ rules changed....LOL

that would be nice to know..last year there was a rule change a few weeks before padre....

Yea... this year it would be nice to get them in early to build and go test or run at Jimbo's show. Won't be completely ready but in time to go out to C.S. and put on a good show for him and the crew at Jack's.

Oh dear god, please have a rule change cutoff date this year.

I think it is time to combine classes ...

Two stocks, two pro stocks, two mods, two super mods

Gabe Sanchez wrote:

I think it is time to combine classes ...

Two stocks, two pro stocks, two mods, two super mods

Your on to something there. Maybe not 2 classes, but 3.
I see WAY too many classed going unfilled, even at big shows.

leave it the way it is just change stock and pro stock to 0-500, 501-1000 etc just like the mod classes.

if anything combine stock and pro...I know it will piss some off, but really the classes are looking pitiful. Run 16volt if you want, but not all will.

Trunk class was a fail at finals, and most shows I went to, so toss that out the window...gave it a shot and no one ran it. if anything make it one trunk class with a cap of 1500 or 2000 watts, the rest can go play in the stock classes

Super mod....well this year again it was just a Im already here to run Drag why not go get another championship. 1 super mod class would be fine, there is really no need for more then that.

SB....the wave of the future, this needs advancement. We need something to make this class equal. How about that SB cd that was supposed to be designed in 2006? were still waiting??!!?!?!?!?! I would say we need to open up the SB classes if anything. maybe add one more.

Port wars and Super Port wars, I think only quad would be upset if he could be champion in these classes...but you have to show up to win, which he didnt.


So in general.
Port and Super Port GONE
Super Mod Down to 1 class

SB add more!!!!
Stock and Pro...need to combine or eliminate another class
Mod..looks good for now

Mini leave it alone, it only gets asked for at a few events and its really for the kids so leave it be.

Trunk...1 class limit power to 2K any more power then that and they SHOULD hang at most local events with the CRX's and S-10s..LOL

All power classes need to be smaller so more people can afford to play. Like bringing back the 0-300 with 2 amps, 301-900 with 3 amps and so on. The stock classes need to mirror the mod classes as far as power goes to make it an easyer step into mod. Let the smaller amps be able to play as the regular consumer can afford them.

RXZILLA wrote:

All power classes need to be smaller so more people can afford to play. Like bringing back the 0-300 with 2 amps, 301-900 with 3 amps and so on. The stock classes need to mirror the mod classes as far as power goes to make it an easyer step into mod. Let the smaller amps be able to play as the regular consumer can afford them.

that will not happen to many cheater amps.... and companys are makeing huge ass amps....

Twisted Image wrote:

if anything combine stock and pro...I know it will piss some off, but really the classes are looking pitiful. Run 16volt if you want, but not all will.

Trunk class was a fail at finals, and most shows I went to, so toss that out the window...gave it a shot and no one ran it. if anything make it one trunk class with a cap of 1500 or 2000 watts, the rest can go play in the stock classes

Super mod....well this year again it was just a Im already here to run Drag why not go get another championship. 1 super mod class would be fine, there is really no need for more then that.

SB....the wave of the future, this needs advancement. We need something to make this class equal. How about that SB cd that was supposed to be designed in 2006? were still waiting??!!?!?!?!?! I would say we need to open up the SB classes if anything. maybe add one more.

Port wars and Super Port wars, I think only quad would be upset if he could be champion in these classes...but you have to show up to win, which he didnt.


So in general.
Port and Super Port GONE
Super Mod Down to 1 class

SB add more!!!!
Stock and Pro...need to combine or eliminate another class
Mod..looks good for now

Mini leave it alone, it only gets asked for at a few events and its really for the kids so leave it be.

Trunk...1 class limit power to 2K any more power then that and they SHOULD hang at most local events with the CRX's and S-10s..LOL

i dont think they will combind stock and pro.... mabey 1800-3k and 3k plus is all i see happening... and trunk as a open class

RXZILLA wrote:

All power classes need to be smaller so more people can afford to play. Like bringing back the 0-300 with 2 amps, 301-900 with 3 amps and so on. The stock classes need to mirror the mod classes as far as power goes to make it an easyer step into mod. Let the smaller amps be able to play as the regular consumer can afford them.

I understand the thought process, but in reality it does the opposite, you spend BIG $$$$ for the best rated amp period.

Thats all it does.

Twisted Image wrote:

if anything combine stock and pro...I know it will piss some off, but really the classes are looking pitiful. Run 16volt if you want, but not all will.

Trunk class was a fail at finals, and most shows I went to, so toss that out the window...gave it a shot and no one ran it. if anything make it one trunk class with a cap of 1500 or 2000 watts, the rest can go play in the stock classes

Super mod....well this year again it was just a Im already here to run Drag why not go get another championship. 1 super mod class would be fine, there is really no need for more then that.

SB....the wave of the future, this needs advancement. We need something to make this class equal. How about that SB cd that was supposed to be designed in 2006? were still waiting??!!?!?!?!?! I would say we need to open up the SB classes if anything. maybe add one more.

Port wars and Super Port wars, I think only quad would be upset if he could be champion in these classes...but you have to show up to win, which he didnt.


So in general.
Port and Super Port GONE
Super Mod Down to 1 class

SB add more!!!!
Stock and Pro...need to combine or eliminate another class
Mod..looks good for now

Mini leave it alone, it only gets asked for at a few events and its really for the kids so leave it be.

Trunk...1 class limit power to 2K any more power then that and they SHOULD hang at most local events with the CRX's and S-10s..LOL

we have had portwars classes down here with 10 or more people in them i dont think they are going anywhere.

so leave portwars, but i dont think it needs to be a national class.

not offered at finals unless a minimum of X entries pre registered.

I think Stock and PS should resemble eachother in class structure.

And I do agree all power structure should look the same. one way or the other.

I also think that Sb dosent need to be expanded, just structured to get at what it was brought out to be. Ground pounders.

I still say call it stock 12v and stock 16v and drop the pro crap, cause it dont matter anyways.

Spl Port Wars Open - 159.8 - David Hanson
Spl Port Wars Open - 157.7 - Mark Bowker

Spl Super Port Wars Open - 170 - Francisco Ruiz
Spl Super Port Wars Open - 162 - Nicholas Pearson
Spl Super Port Wars Open - 161.3 - Christopher Johwson
Spl Super Port Wars Open - 160.3 - Wesley Sawyer
Spl Super Port Wars Open - 159.7 - Guadalupe Villareal
Spl Super Port Wars Open - 158.6 - Tony Manna
Spl Super Port Wars Open - 152.9 - Jeremy Dickey
Spl Super Port Wars Open - 151.6 - Jimmy Malloy
Spl Super Port Wars Open - 148 - Phillip Salinas
Spl Super Port Wars Open - 144.9 - Steven Carlisle

that was at one show down here,ALOT OF YOU ARE FORGETTING OR JUST DON'T KNOW PORTWARS WAS A USACI ORIGINAL EVENT ALONG TIME AGO SO I REALLY DONT THINK ITS GOING ANYWHERE.

I'll be honest, I'd be REALLY pissed off if they started mucking with the Stock classes. I have built for 0-600 for 2 years now. I like staying in this class since it's not as expensive as 601-1800 and a bit mor challenging IMO .... 1 amp under 600W to break 160... I could see combining 1801-3000 & 3000+ though since no one really does anything in those classes locally here.

Street Beat is fine as is. Mod is fine as is. Trunk, I'd leave that one alone. It's the first year out, you have to give it some time. Alot more people are running it now than there was at the beginning of the year. I don't really dabble in Super Mod etc... so I have no opinion there.

What we need is an amateur class. One thing we see alot here is you have these kids who come in off the street after spending $2,000.00 on a couple of big amps and some subs, they get put into 601-1800 or 1800-3000 and get massively stomped by the serious competitors, then they don't come back. Who wants to come to a show where you sunk 2K into a system and pulled a 145, then someone comes along and does a 156?

Simple starting guildines to build on .... if they are in a prefab box and not asscoiated with a team or shop, they are amateur. Of course the judge will have to use common sense on this to place these people. Say maybe Amateur 0-1000, 1001-3000, 3000+

BTW THERE WERE 11 ENTRIES AT FINALS FOR PORTWARS ANYWAY.

then there ya go.

I agree wity tammy, leave it as long as its working.

As far as stock goes, there does need to be a consolidation, and I do agree with the above mentioned. 1801+ is what it should reflect just like PS leave the rest. Maybe leave the power structure as it is, since so many are built for it. Just silly in my mind to have mod different from stock as far as power structure goes.

What people need to look at as a whole here, is whats best for the life of the org, and not there personal interest.

bruce-bruce wrote:

then there ya go.

I agree wity tammy, leave it as long as its working.

As far as stock goes, there does need to be a consolidation, and I do agree with the above mentioned. 1801+ is what it should reflect just like PS leave the rest. Maybe leave the power structure as it is, since so many are built for it. Just silly in my mind to have mod different from stock as far as power structure goes.

What people need to look at as a whole here, is whats best for the life of the org, and not there personal interest.

I agree, but like I said, the failure is caused by a lack of new blood. From my experience up here, I can say alot of the loss of new blood is due to new people getting trounced by the old timers. What do you think about an amateur class?

thats what "stock" is supposed to be now

it dont work though.

OK so i agree no one likes change every year but that being said , ONLY THE STRONGEST SURVIVE or SOME OF THE BEST IDEAS ARE STOLEN , if another org has a rule or a class or structure go with it . if every one wants usaci to survive we need to get thru to the big guy .... be open minded...
trunk class leave it only one year guys .
power classes should it be the same as mod?
powerwheels most kids are happy with anysize trouphy so if you have one bring it but keep it real , let it be more about the kid , let the crowd decide make it about design than just spl set up a section and let it be like biker build off?
street beat must have mids as that was to be about daily drivers , make them play for 1-2 minutes , same rules as other classes , freq cut off in street beat?
these are only ideas , throw enough pencils to the ceiling and one or two will stick ,
this is not to give anyone person an advantage but to revive the interest and level the field.
even if we cahanged thing it doesnt fix anything over night , leave finals in one place for three years give it a chance.

i say leave street beat alone. it has the most competitors in it.

Economy was bad plus driving distance to finals. Some people didn't have money. Leave it the way it is. Give it time to grow..Some people still building

In my opinion we need to spend less time complaining about classes and try to get those classes filled . USACI doesnt make anymore money if we combine classes however if we are able to increase the number of people running in those classes they may be able to continue to do what they have been doing so good for so long now .

And start selling beer at the convetion centers. You know how much louder you are when I am Fukced up

Stock 12v and Stock 16v no PS just have the 2 stock classes, if USACi had that I would be back next year.

Lol sb turned out to be most popular classes.

Is sb finally getting respect ?


Wooooot

The mind set is this. Years ago when USACI was stronger, the classes were all filled with smaller amps. Yes I see the grey areas, but the classes were filled and the average person could compete. We need to get back the manufactures that make ordinary amps like a 1000.1 or a 300 watt amp that a consumner can buy at best buy or Car Toys or whatever DEALER and still be competitve. Going back to our roots would not hurt us. Yes the loyal 110+ competitors that all went to finals will still play, but the classes being a bit smaller will allow more to compete. Thus lower scores, more competitors, more manufactures support, more DEALER support and more shows.

Manufactures sell more 1000 watt amps then they do 7K. The average person goes to Best Buy or Tweeter or where ever and can AFFORD a 1K amp and a pair of 12" subs.

Amp power is always going to be an
iffy situation... Make all classes based upon cone area...


Waiting for
the flame.