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slumpinhonda Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 2938 Age : 37 Location : BFE Nebraska Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:54 pm | |
| Just do a 0-1000 1 amps and 1000+ class unlimited woofers batts voltage 14.7 max | |
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mschwitz Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1125 Age : 46 Registration date : 2007-06-26
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:18 pm | |
| - sanman wrote:
- ill tell you right now, and save the bitching for later
neon's civic's
will own this class because there are people out there right now that can do 155+ on the meter with 2 12's There's another car that will get louder due to the way the car is built. And yes it is a true trunk car. | |
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SBFRK Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 396 Age : 39 Location : Atchison, KS Registration date : 2007-12-11
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:19 pm | |
| Hopefully my car | |
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Nick Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 676 Age : 59 Location : Southwest Mississippi Registration date : 2007-06-29
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:57 pm | |
| just to make it more challenging and even accross the board, all seats must stay up and no deck cuts or blow throughs. no mods to seats. that will make it more fun on the overall and attract new competitors that ordinarily could not compete with the 155s of the civics and neons. streetbeat type class would be good, but still have an option to one note it. | |
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slumpinhonda Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 2938 Age : 37 Location : BFE Nebraska Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:00 pm | |
| i lost 1.5 db puttin seat up in my civic | |
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sanman I own this joint!
Number of posts : 12087 Age : 52 Location : shelbyville Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:08 pm | |
| see starting to get out of hand and aint even started yet seat up seats down
my seat folds well mine dont so i need help
no blow though its not i just removed the speakers in the rear deck
simple and easy
1 batt/2 runs of 0 gage wire a +, and a -/2 10's or 2 12's/ | |
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Nick Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 676 Age : 59 Location : Southwest Mississippi Registration date : 2007-06-29
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:17 pm | |
| not outta hand or complicated jeff, if this is a class geared toward newbies and or making it more fun and challenging, it is no sense in scaring them off right out the gate with fear of 55s being popped on them. yeah it is a fact that trunk cars do that number already. it should just truly be based upon what the intent of this class is really for. it doesnt affect what i run one way or another. | |
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Nick Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 676 Age : 59 Location : Southwest Mississippi Registration date : 2007-06-29
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:27 pm | |
| Ralph did ask: Anyone got any ideas on how to break them down? and not for rules input so maybe a class for fold downs and mods for the a finals type class and a just standard trunk without the previous for just a fun type promotional class. | |
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The_Rowlands I own this joint!
Number of posts : 7398 Age : 58 Location : MIDWEST Registration date : 2007-08-08
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:55 pm | |
| very simple stock and pro... and call it good. | |
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bruce-bruce Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1361 Age : 45 Registration date : 2008-06-25
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:08 pm | |
| - The_Rowlands wrote:
- very simple stock and pro... and call it good.
cause that works really well now | |
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S.L.A.B. Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 571 Age : 45 Location : Jennings LA. Registration date : 2008-07-14
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:32 pm | |
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scionsoloxb Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 4832 Location : missouri Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:35 pm | |
| - bruce-bruce wrote:
- The_Rowlands wrote:
- very simple stock and pro... and call it good.
cause that works really well now yep it does! | |
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supadave Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3745 Age : 42 Location : tupelo mississippi Registration date : 2008-02-28
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:05 pm | |
| wow lets see 2 trunk classes that is all well just keep it simple at 0 1000 an sb trunk classes all 12v, 14v max. i think it will be fun especially in sb that should be real fun but i tink all the grey areas needed be found now an made into color cause like everyone else we don'tnee another streetbeat problem. but nonetheless should be a great year in 09 | |
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slumpinhonda Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 2938 Age : 37 Location : BFE Nebraska Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:44 pm | |
| a sb one is a cool idea too | |
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thunderchicken Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 564 Age : 41 Location : fort smith,ar. Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:38 am | |
| a sb one would be ok. but if only 1 trunk class outlaw style id like to see a lil more than 1000w. | |
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dbdaddy Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 821 Age : 45 Location : katy,texas Registration date : 2009-01-03
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:31 am | |
| for a trunk class i would suggest stock open and modified open.
stock-all seats up "clicked" and usable. no rear deck modifications. all woofers in the trunk.
modified-fold your seats down, chop up your rear deck, keep your woofers in the trunk.
I think even at local shows, both of those classes will be popular. | |
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mschwitz Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1125 Age : 46 Registration date : 2007-06-26
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:43 am | |
| Having a modified trunk totally ruins the point of a trunk class.
Here are my thoughts:
0-500 1 amp
501-1000 2 amps
Vehicle must have an oem solid rear deck i.e. not carboard cover boards on hatchbacks.
Seats may be folded down or if they don't fold down, taken off and laid down in the vehicle per the current stock rules.
14.4 volt limit
All equipment must be in the trunk.
Factory speakers may be removed but no new cuts allowed to the rear deck.
This keeps it simple and keeps the classes lower power so more people off the street would have a class there car would fit into. I think the biggest thing to make this class truly successful is the keep the power limits down so typical street systems can be relatively competitive. Yes I know the same people will win the class and yes there are lots of trunk systems out there that have way more power than what I listed, but for being a class that could bring in a lot of people who wouldn't normally compete into the sport and not get completely murdered or have huge numbers to beat. 155 can be done in a trunk and is still a big number, but let's keep this class reasonable for a change. | |
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dbdaddy Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 821 Age : 45 Location : katy,texas Registration date : 2009-01-03
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:48 am | |
| so your average big system in a trunk car never includes cutting your costomers rear deck. If he wants to be in trunk then thats not an option. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:50 am | |
| I have a trunk class in my Local Classes and it is just a open class.
I am listening to all options as well...KEEP EM COMING! |
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thunderchicken Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 564 Age : 41 Location : fort smith,ar. Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:04 pm | |
| - mschwitz wrote:
- Having a modified trunk totally ruins the point of a trunk class.
Here are my thoughts:
0-500 1 amp
501-1000 2 amps
Vehicle must have an oem solid rear deck i.e. not carboard cover boards on hatchbacks.
Seats may be folded down or if they don't fold down, taken off and laid down in the vehicle per the current stock rules.
14.4 volt limit
All equipment must be in the trunk.
Factory speakers may be removed but no new cuts allowed to the rear deck.
This keeps it simple and keeps the classes lower power so more people off the street would have a class there car would fit into. I think the biggest thing to make this class truly successful is the keep the power limits down so typical street systems can be relatively competitive. Yes I know the same people will win the class and yes there are lots of trunk systems out there that have way more power than what I listed, but for being a class that could bring in a lot of people who wouldn't normally compete into the sport and not get completely murdered or have huge numbers to beat. 155 can be done in a trunk and is still a big number, but let's keep this class reasonable for a change. i agree with everything except i think the power ratings are too low. i dont think a lot of people will have amps with a 500 or less power rating. or at least do like our stck classes nwow and do 0-600 and 601-1800 or sumin. | |
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mschwitz Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1125 Age : 46 Registration date : 2007-06-26
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:06 pm | |
| - dbdaddy wrote:
- so your average big system in a trunk car never includes cutting your costomers rear deck. If he wants to be in trunk then thats not an option.
Which are we going for here....big systems or average? And no we don't cut rear decks in our customers cars. I feel that is a mod application not the spirit of a "trunk" class. That's just my opinion from a prior judges standpoint, installer and competitor. | |
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mschwitz Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1125 Age : 46 Registration date : 2007-06-26
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:10 pm | |
| - thunderchicken wrote:
- mschwitz wrote:
- Having a modified trunk totally ruins the point of a trunk class.
Here are my thoughts:
0-500 1 amp
501-1000 2 amps
Vehicle must have an oem solid rear deck i.e. not carboard cover boards on hatchbacks.
Seats may be folded down or if they don't fold down, taken off and laid down in the vehicle per the current stock rules.
14.4 volt limit
All equipment must be in the trunk.
Factory speakers may be removed but no new cuts allowed to the rear deck.
This keeps it simple and keeps the classes lower power so more people off the street would have a class there car would fit into. I think the biggest thing to make this class truly successful is the keep the power limits down so typical street systems can be relatively competitive. Yes I know the same people will win the class and yes there are lots of trunk systems out there that have way more power than what I listed, but for being a class that could bring in a lot of people who wouldn't normally compete into the sport and not get completely murdered or have huge numbers to beat. 155 can be done in a trunk and is still a big number, but let's keep this class reasonable for a change. i agree with everything except i think the power ratings are too low. i dont think a lot of people will have amps with a 500 or less power rating. or at least do like our stck classes nwow and do 0-600 and 601-1800 or sumin. I think having the smaller power limits would keep the scores in check for a while at least. The same amps being used in 0-1000 mod could be used there is just a class that only allows 1 of those amps. I know there is a 500 watt rated or less db drive amp, the mmats 3500.05 would fit, ia 20.1, etc. Think about typical consumer rated and sold amps, rockford, jl, alpine all sell amps that normal consumers buy and run in there cars. I'm not saying this should be a beginner class, but I think some considerations could be made for what the rest of the world runs. Not every class needs to be a huge numbers or expensive equipment class. I truly believe a lower budget class will drawn in more competitors than another big class. | |
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thunderchicken Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 564 Age : 41 Location : fort smith,ar. Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:14 pm | |
| - dbdaddy wrote:
- so your average big system in a trunk car never includes cutting your costomers rear deck. If he wants to be in trunk then thats not an option.
i believe if you want a big system and want to cut a lot of stuff you would be in modified. i mean you really cant cut anything in stock and prostock about the only difference is batts. 12/16volt. your vehicle has to remain mostly stock or factory. | |
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solo1 Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 428 Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:34 pm | |
| 0-500/ 1 amp/ 1 battery 501-1000/ 2 amps/ 2 batteries 1000+/ 4 amps/ unlimited batteries
everything in the trunk,amps may be mounted on the rear seat,no mods too the deck lid,unlimited woofers,14.7 max voltage. | |
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BBGIC Big Bald Guy in Charge
Number of posts : 2358 Age : 57 Location : World Wide - 11 Countries Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:09 pm | |
| Thank you for all the great ideas. I appreciate when our members step up and take part in the organization in such a positive way!
After reading most of the ideas this si what I am leaning towards.
Outlaw Style
0-1000 – 1 amp 10001-up - unlimited amps
no limit on batteries or alternators.
Vehicle must have an oem solid rear deck. NO HATCHBACKS
Seats may be folded down or if they don't fold down, taken off and laid down in the vehicle per the current stock rules.
14.9 volt limit
All equipment must be in the trunk.
Factory speakers may be removed but no new cuts allowed to the rear deck. | |
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thunderchicken Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 564 Age : 41 Location : fort smith,ar. Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:27 pm | |
| i like it. so does it go into effect right now? | |
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mschwitz Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1125 Age : 46 Registration date : 2007-06-26
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:40 pm | |
| I like it as well. Thanks for listening to us, Ralph. It looks like it will be a poplular class and bring in some new blood. | |
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SBFRK Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 396 Age : 39 Location : Atchison, KS Registration date : 2007-12-11
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:49 pm | |
| That sounds lke a good deal to me folks | |
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RAB Novice Contributor
Number of posts : 200 Registration date : 2008-01-02
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:18 pm | |
| so if ur trunk's sheetmetal is cut already u cant be in this class | |
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rd s10 Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 2411 Age : 38 Location : loc Registration date : 2008-06-17
| Subject: Re: Trunk Class Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:13 pm | |
| - RAB wrote:
- so if ur trunk's sheetmetal is cut already u cant be in this class
we got a winner | |
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