Street beat

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Obviously some things need to be addressed in these classes. I will be starting this in the comitee section also for us to get feedback and discuss it. What do you feel is wrong with street beat now that we have a couple seasons with it? What are some possible solutions to these issues? Please keep this positive, no bashing or specific names or such. Just what needs to be fixed and how to fix it.

ibbangin wrote:

at finals have a pro sb1-5.... i dont think i think it's a good idea to force competitors to buy more equipment every year because they have to go up a class but seperate the classes from new people.....the one cd maybe.... but make the pro sb 1-5 more strict....

I agree with that, but let's change pro to veteran. There are plenty of veterans that should be in the higher class but since it says pros they don't have to. Consumer and veteran is my vote.

ya do veteran then i can play in the smaller classes only year 2 for me. and maybe i can win one ....lol

Why should I b forced 2 step up a class and spend more money on a system if what I got is what I like but I don't want 2 burp then I am a semi new competitor and pissed cuz ur telling me I have 2 spend more $ 2 compete so I quit all together so it sounds like a quick 1 year fix 2 me sorry just my opinion

Magoo wrote:

Why should I b forced 2 step up a class and spend more money on a system if what I got is what I like but I don't want 2 burp then I am a semi new competitor and pissed cuz ur telling me I have 2 spend more $ 2 compete so I quit all together so it sounds like a quick 1 year fix 2 me sorry just my opinion

Same reason they have weight classes in boxing.....cant just beat up on the lil guys all ur career

i like the idea of a sb and veteran sb you wouldnt scare off a lot of newcomers this way. maybe have a cap on hz in sb and not one in veteran sb. and/or maybe have a usaci cd for veteran sb and in sb use any music cd you can purchase in a store? it was said before sb is to get newcomers well what newcomers play 60hz songs? with a veteran sb class you wouldnt really change anything from the way it is now except the title. also you might not scare away newcomers so much.

i say leave it all alone. how many ppl really go to finals?how many "new" ppl showed up? do you think it was because the pro's were there?

If u all read the other post jaffe has stated its being used the way he intended it 2 b it was created 2 b a format 2 answer the demand 4 a format with music. If every 1 is worried about newbies then look at the stock classes newbies don't compete cuz they don't own a rex sorry but its tru stock is where u will get newbies

thunderchicken wrote:

i like the idea of a sb and veteran sb you wouldnt scare off a lot of newcomers this way. maybe have a cap on hz in sb and not one in veteran sb. and/or maybe have a usaci cd for veteran sb and in sb use any music cd you can purchase in a store? it was said before sb is to get newcomers well what newcomers play 60hz songs? with a veteran sb class you wouldnt really change anything from the way it is now except the title. also you might not scare away newcomers so much.

You wouldn't scare off newcomers if the class was affordable PERIOD. Unlimited power and mods to the vehicle is what is ruining Street Beat.

bumpin s-10 wrote:

thunderchicken wrote:

i like the idea of a sb and veteran sb you wouldnt scare off a lot of newcomers this way. maybe have a cap on hz in sb and not one in veteran sb. and/or maybe have a usaci cd for veteran sb and in sb use any music cd you can purchase in a store? it was said before sb is to get newcomers well what newcomers play 60hz songs? with a veteran sb class you wouldnt really change anything from the way it is now except the title. also you might not scare away newcomers so much.

You wouldn't scare off newcomers if the class was affordable PERIOD. Unlimited power and mods to the vehicle is what is ruining Street Beat.

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Magoo wrote:

Why should I b forced 2 step up a class and spend more money on a system if what I got is what I like but I don't want 2 burp then I am a semi new competitor and pissed cuz ur telling me I have 2 spend more $ 2 compete so I quit all together so it sounds like a quick 1 year fix 2 me sorry just my opinion

i agree it should not be the amount of woofers determine ur skill level that means every year u have to either buy more or stay the same and be at a disadvatage

How does moving from consumer sb 1 to veteran sb 1 cost anymore money? It's still the same sub count.

the people taht are scared off by scores weren't going to stay any ways.... if this is true the same would apply to stock classes...what was the top number a 160.... with one amp....

mschwitz wrote:

How does moving from consumer sb 1 to veteran sb 1 cost anymore money? It's still the same sub count.

i was refering to the fist year ur in sb1, second year in sb2 thing.. having to basicly change ur setup every year

i say we start out with sb1-4
then have pro 1-5
but on regular sb1 fisrt year then 2,3 4 then you are a pro
one year in each of the basic class

I would not agree to that change. The way I would like to see it would be first two years in Usaci, you can run any of the consumer sb classes, one year to get a world title and one to defend it. After two years move up to veteran or get out of sb. Have veteran and consumer classes the same with the exception of unlimited only in veteran.

I'm just trying to figure out a way to help the sport grow. The new guys are the way this will happen. How can we offer something for the "average consumer" and then have it dominated by veterans? I'm not knocking anyones scores or the way things are done. Per the very loose rules all of what is going on is legal. Still seems like it has gotten out of hand for the original intent of the class.

I think there should be a way to separate the people who will sink $10K into a system from the people who can't do that.

Like the younger people who are new to the sport, and don't have a lot of extra money to drop into their rides, and want to do half decent in comps.

Well said.

how many years competing would u say makes u a vet????

i would say a top 3 finish more that 2 years in a class but seeing how some calss have one 4 ppl in them thats not fair so a world title would make u a vet

Yehh it shouldnt go by number of years.....i say go by finals finishes

bassahaulic wrote:

I think there should be a way to separate the people who will sink $10K into a system from the people who can't do that.

Like the younger people who are new to the sport, and don't have a lot of extra money to drop into their rides, and want to do half decent in comps.

What about basing it on MAP pricing? $1000, $2000, $3000, unlimited? Amounts could be changed. Just a thought. Makes it more about the build and not the amount of $ someone can spend.

I like it

I was new this year and in no way was I scared off.. We all strive for a world championship.. So therefore if u wanna be the best u gotta beat the best.. You guys were all rookies once.. Did anyone cut you slack? Or did u learn and get better as the years went along.. I'm with ryan.. Leave it alone..

i was a rookie to usaci and sb3 last year took 2nd this year champ. what i am trying to say is that evan is right just like ryan repeated why should he move on you want to be the best beat the best you didnt see any rule change in the nfl when the patriots were so dominating you seen others rise to the occasion. Yes rules need to be addresed but it could be as simple as saying the generel rules apply to sb as well. Keep it simple sb is not for newbies its just an extra format that newbies can go into if they want. trust me if you want to win you will find away if your scared buy a champion you dont have it in you to win.

okay i was talkin to the sb4 champ last nite an he an i was talking about what a true streetbeater really is.
now how many of you can honestly say your setup is a streetbeater an by street beater i mean, you have 2 or more sets of componets, a amp for those componets an subs and after your run you can pull off an setup an demo for anyone without burning up any amps are subs?
its time out for burp boxes in sb classes, i say if its a streetbeater then you should be able to do it an not just play your song an thats it.
evan btw man congrats on your second place victory your first year man thats something to talk about an brag bro i know i woulld if its my first year.

supadave wrote:

okay i was talkin to the sb4 champ last nite an he an i was talking about what a true streetbeater really is.
now how many of you can honestly say your setup is a streetbeater an by street beater i mean, you have 2 or more sets of componets, a amp for those componets an subs and after your run you can pull off an setup an demo for anyone without burning up any amps are subs?
its time out for burp boxes in sb classes, i say if its a streetbeater then you should be able to do it an not just play your song an thats it.
evan btw man congrats on your second place victory your first year man thats something to talk about an brag bro i know i woulld if its my first year.

name a song you want me to play and ill show you the score what it will do. everyone has there own opinions what a "streetbeat system" is. my question is out of all the ppl wanting to change the rules,how many of you went to finals,and how many of you acually do sb?

name a song you want me to play and ill show you the score what it will do. everyone has there own opinions what a "streetbeat system" is. my question is out of all the ppl wanting to change the rules,how many of you went to finals,and how many of you acually do sb?[/quote]

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I like most the rules. I still stand by what I said.

There should be a way to separate the people who will sink $10K into a system from the people who can't do that.

I like rolands idea I know for a fact my 2007 setup will go for a minute 2 a minute and a half a true streatbeat system can take a beatin on the streat why won't it take it in the lanes or make it longer time at world finals

i ran a tru sb set up for many years and agree with you all about that but in some cases you have to go away from that to win. I am not saying it right cuz i am not afan of it but ive done it. Ask the 07 sb champ it sux he had a great looking ride sounded amazing but had to swich it up to win the class. Even though we all agree on that doesnt mean that that is the way the class should be. Jaffe has said the way it is going is what they had intended