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If USACi picked president. Who would it be | Obama | | 46% | [ 31 ] | McCain | | 54% | [ 37 ] |
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bruce-bruce Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1361 Age : 45 Registration date : 2008-06-25
| Subject: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:13 pm | |
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S.L.A.B. Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 571 Age : 45 Location : Jennings LA. Registration date : 2008-07-14
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:21 pm | |
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ibbangin Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1906 Age : 37 Location : tyler,texas Registration date : 2007-07-13
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:30 pm | |
| does anyone want to bet me that obama doesn't win????? | |
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S.L.A.B. Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 571 Age : 45 Location : Jennings LA. Registration date : 2008-07-14
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:32 pm | |
| Do you actually know politics or just on the vote abama bandwagon? not being rude just asking. Why are you so eager for him to win also, maybe i missed something. | |
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The_Rowlands I own this joint!
Number of posts : 7398 Age : 58 Location : MIDWEST Registration date : 2007-08-08
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:33 pm | |
| ill bet ya 10 bucks , if he wins ya get ten if he dont ya pay me 1k ...lol | |
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Johncarr Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 317 Age : 54 Location : Fort Worth, Texas Registration date : 2007-06-24
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:33 pm | |
| McCain because he has Karl Rove on his side, and Karl's man always win in every election since the early 90's!! Remember his name(Karl Rove) cause he is been around for a long time and will stay even longer! He maybe the most powerful man in the US! | |
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ibbangin Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1906 Age : 37 Location : tyler,texas Registration date : 2007-07-13
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:43 pm | |
| - S.L.A.B. wrote:
- Do you actually know politics or just on the vote abama bandwagon? not being rude just asking. Why are you so eager for him to win also, maybe i missed something.
i would say that i do... i've paid very close attention to this election.... there is alot of reasons why... one is mccain has basicly been using the last 6 weeks of his campain to talk crap about obama... to me this show a lack of character i would expect a president to conduct himself on a higher level.... mccain is very old and palin is not ready to be president... and without getting into a debate on specific topics i believe obama's line of $hit better.... either way i will be excited to get president bush out of office 81 more days!!!!! yeeeeeaaaaaaaa!!!!!!! | |
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ibbangin Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1906 Age : 37 Location : tyler,texas Registration date : 2007-07-13
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:45 pm | |
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Navi Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3105 Age : 47 Location : Victoria, TX Registration date : 2007-06-25
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:56 pm | |
| - ibbangin wrote:
- S.L.A.B. wrote:
- Do you actually know politics or just on the vote abama bandwagon? not being rude just asking. Why are you so eager for him to win also, maybe i missed something.
i would say that i do... i've paid very close attention to this election.... there is alot of reasons why... one is mccain has basicly been using the last 6 weeks of his campain to talk crap about obama... to me this show a lack of character i would expect a president to conduct himself on a higher level.... mccain is very old and palin is not ready to be president... and without getting into a debate on specific topics i believe obama's line of $hit better....
either way i will be excited to get president bush out of office 81 more days!!!!! yeeeeeaaaaaaaa!!!!!!! sweet another bandwagon voter! if you base your vote on who doesn't sling mud in an election 1. you will never truly have anyone to vote for 2. have an ignorant approach to voting. " well he called that guy names so I'm going to vote for the other guy" nevermind their experience or views or plans for the future of the country...... | |
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ibbangin Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1906 Age : 37 Location : tyler,texas Registration date : 2007-07-13
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:07 pm | |
| navi why don't u listen... i said without getting into specific topics... u say i'm a bandwagon voter.... i say you guys are just lucky the majority of us can see the better president.... it would be to tiring to type my debate on specific topics...
mccain needs to read ur sig!!!! | |
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ibbangin Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1906 Age : 37 Location : tyler,texas Registration date : 2007-07-13
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:08 pm | |
| navi did u want to bet on it??????? | |
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BillGass Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 893 Age : 52 Registration date : 2007-06-25
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:46 pm | |
| - Johncarr wrote:
- McCain because he has Karl Rove on his side, and Karl's man always win in every election since the early 90's!!
Remember his name(Karl Rove) cause he is been around for a long time and will stay even longer!
He maybe the most powerful man in the US! THE ARCHITECT Karl Rove. No he hasn't just helped Bush get elected president. Rove has been involved in numerous other elections. George W Bush 1994 and 1998 Texas gubernatorial elections Senator John Ashcroft 1994 U.S. Senate election Bill Clements - 1986 Texas gubernatorial election Senator John Cornyn - 2002 U.S. Senate election Governor Rick Perry - 1990 Texas Agriculture Commission election Phil Gramm - 1982 U.S. House and 1984 U.S. Senate | |
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S.L.A.B. Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 571 Age : 45 Location : Jennings LA. Registration date : 2008-07-14
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:55 pm | |
| Lord your starting to sound like McCool with this betting sh1t lol. I still have to brand you BandWagon Voter though. To keep things simple and still talk politics with you how can you vote on a man that has anti-american upbringings and back ground. I know how I was raised, it was not to the best standards. Although I have learned and bettered myself that less than standard soul is still in me. It is the same with Obama. No matter what he says, he will always have soft feelings for some of these anti-American bandits running lose in the world. America was built on faith in GOD! We should seek leaders that are close to this as possible, I am not saying McCain is god fearing but he is on the same page atleast as our founding fathers. But anyway... If you know politics we can start on that. What have you followed and understand? Any particular political move you agree with Obama on and not McCain? | |
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BillGass Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 893 Age : 52 Registration date : 2007-06-25
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:22 pm | |
| I hate to discuss politics (yeah right) but my main concerns with Omaha:
1)Socialistic economic views. 'spread the wealth' his own words
View this as such:Bruce & I both work at the same place, same job, smae duties, same responsibilities. Bruce busts his ass and works a ton of overtime. I am lazy and barely work my 40 hours. We both take home the same check because that is 'spreading the wealth'
2) My other main concern involves his Questionable connections:
Muhammad Hasan Chandoo Wahid Hamid Antoin 'Tony' Rezko Nadhmi Auchi Valerie Jarrett Louis Farrakhan Rashid Khalidi Pastor Wright William Ayers Madeleine Talbot Khalid Al-Monsour Robert Malley
How do you explain all of these connections? Coincidence? Doubtful. He claims that he was 'unaware' of Rev. Wrights negative view of the U.S. yet also claims that he attended Rev Wright's church for 20 years at least twice a month. That's nearly 500 sermons that he heard and was unaware of his views. BS!
Michelle, his wife, stated that she'd never been proud of this country before. WTF?
Politics is corrupt and in most every election you vote for the lessor of 2 evils. I am sorry, no I'm not, I can't vote or even understand voting for someone whose connections to our enemies is so strong. Domestic and international terrorist ties have no place in the White House.
Barry is not a stupid man, he is very well spoken (old phrase used to describe Powell), he is smooth. I believe that he could make people feel all warm and fuzzy like Clinton and Regan both could. But brings nothing more to the table.
I can rant forever but that's enough for now. I will check back later. | |
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Navi Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3105 Age : 47 Location : Victoria, TX Registration date : 2007-06-25
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:42 pm | |
| - ibbangin wrote:
- navi did u want to bet on it???????
I fail to see where I said Obama was going to lose However I would like to see your response to Bill's post. | |
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sanman I own this joint!
Number of posts : 12087 Age : 52 Location : shelbyville Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:43 pm | |
| I do not vote cause it doesnt really matter for me I followm whom ever becomes the new Commander in Cheif I think Oboma will win though | |
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BillGass Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 893 Age : 52 Registration date : 2007-06-25
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:31 pm | |
| Jeff, although I appreciate your loyalty to your Commander In Chief, should Obama win, as is very likely(unfortunately), you may be soon out of a job. That should make you want to vote. | |
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sanman I own this joint!
Number of posts : 12087 Age : 52 Location : shelbyville Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:59 pm | |
| not me man thye have to early retire me way to many years in | |
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supadave Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3745 Age : 42 Location : tupelo mississippi Registration date : 2008-02-28
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:21 pm | |
| who all thinks this is a RACE issue here?
i don't agree with some of the bs on obama's name or what he has planned for the future and all nor do i like some of mccains bs but they both have something that i think if they put their heads together it could make the world a better place. now for "spreading the wealth" man has anyone ever heard the old saying "it takes money to make money" guys you have to buy stuff to make money. all you shop did you not have to buy that shop in order to or in hope to make some money back? if not i suppose your in the wrong buisiness
but this is my veiw on mr. bills comment its funny how this election everyone knows all about obama's past life, all the ppl who he has ties too from his past, when all 16yrs ago i don't remeber nothing about bush's past life during the election come up or clintons, nor kerry's or gore's so why is it now when a 'black' man gets his shot and run for the white house everyone and everything he has done in the past comes up.
too all my soilders over in afganistan or iraq, i was listening to xm radio the other day and i heard a lady soldier say she is all for 'anyone" that is gonna get her out of iraq. guys our friends and families are dying over seas and when someone comes along and says that he or she will be bringing them home buddy i am all for him. | |
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BillGass Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 893 Age : 52 Registration date : 2007-06-25
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:50 pm | |
| Dave, If these were all 16 years ago, I could possibly understand where you are coming from. The truth of it is that many if not most of the people on this list have RECENT direct ties to Barry. Also if they weren't important why would such alliances prohibit a person from receiving any sort of clearance in the military, a job in the FBI, CIA or many other government agencies. I have an old friend that works in the department of homeland security in DC. They crawled up his arse with a microscope for him to get his position and he's not high up by any means. How can you support a person for PRESIDENT who cannot meet the qualifications for a meager civilian position in our government.
This is not about race at all for me. For some I am sure that it is. Unfortunately for many many of Barry's supporters, it IS about race. His strength is in his color, take that away, make him a white guy with all of his positions being the same and I promise you that he looses by a landslide. This is not being racial, just truthful. I have many close friends from every race and walk of life. In the past they have been diverse in their support of a presidential candidate. This year, virtually every black person that I know is for Obama. Just an observation. Most cannot tell me a thing about his positions or why they like him. Many think that McCain is not qualified but Barry is. ARE YOU SERIOUS???????
Vote for who you believe in, that's what makes this country great, but please vote with intelligence. Look at the positions on topics that are important to you and then vote for who you believe is the best choice. DON'T vote blindly, regardless of who you vote for. Don't vote McCain because someone said you should, don't vote Barry because he speaks smoothly (so do used car salesmen), vote for the candidate that shares your views and who you believe will do the best for AMERICA! Get out and VOTE! | |
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supadave Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3745 Age : 42 Location : tupelo mississippi Registration date : 2008-02-28
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:05 pm | |
| thank you mr gass for your reply it was very professional lol
but your right man but you got to understand i live in the south racism is all around me. i have friends and assiociates whome all are from different walks and races of life. just this year i have seen many democrats that are white i may add, that i work with and have been demcrats for all they life so they claim and have switch to republican. lol its funny and stupid and i think they need to rethink their standards or priorities on stuff. blacks are gonna vote for him cause he is black and he is gonna make a change but all i have to say is.........in the same words as the comidian kat williams "give the nigga a chance" lol speaking of which let me go find tha for yall that Dung Pile is funny as hell. lol
but yea bill this year its all about the color of skin an no matter what political background is dem. rep. either way if the guy is black, blacks will support him simple cause its time for a change and we need that different color face on that presidential card with all the presidents heads on it lol. | |
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sanman I own this joint!
Number of posts : 12087 Age : 52 Location : shelbyville Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:07 pm | |
| hell the day they allow dead people to vote from Florida was the day I stopped voting | |
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supadave Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3745 Age : 42 Location : tupelo mississippi Registration date : 2008-02-28
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:11 pm | |
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BillGass Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 893 Age : 52 Registration date : 2007-06-25
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:15 pm | |
| I never understood how bad racism still is until my room mate went back home to Critz, VA last year. I will tell his story real quick. This may not surprise some but to me it was an eye opener. Keep in mind this happened last year in 2007.
He went into a liquor store to grab a pack of swishers. Well I won't elaborate as to why but...... ON his way in he notices a group of white guys hanging out in a pick up truck outside of the liquor store. On his way out they were waving a rebel flag, sparked a flare, talking $h!t, calling him boy, etc, taunting him. He laughed at them and left. Sad part is it wasn't funny to him by any means. It hurt him. When he tells the story you can see the pain in his eyes.
This is 2007!!!!!!!!!!! I couldn't believe that it still existed that bad anywhere. EVERYONE has prejudices to some extent. EVERYONE! If I am walking downtown and a white guy in a suit is approaching from the opposite direction I probably wouldn't be the least bit concerned. If a grubby looking person was approaching I would be cautious. Regardless of black, white, Hispanic etc. by appearance I would be cautious. That is a prejudice, but nothing like what my room mate experienced.
That is sad. | |
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Crash Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 782 Age : 39 Registration date : 2007-06-24
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:25 pm | |
| - BillGass wrote:
- I hate to discuss politics (yeah right) but my main concerns with Omaha:
1)Socialistic economic views. 'spread the wealth' his own words
View this as such:Bruce & I both work at the same place, same job, smae duties, same responsibilities. Bruce busts his ass and works a ton of overtime. I am lazy and barely work my 40 hours. We both take home the same check because that is 'spreading the wealth'
Just a question or two on this. One have you looked at Alaska lately on the most socialist state in the whole US. Plus that is in no way does Obama what everyone to get paid the same. All he wants is for 95% of american's to keep there own Money and the other 5% tax rate will go back to what it was under Clinton. I'm guessing that your customer base make under 250,000. If they have more money you have more money. This is not socialism. Plus take a look at McCain plan to buy up the bad mortgages that is socialism only he is given our money to the bank's how do you fell about that? Or is pick of Palin with her socialist ties? Also how is McCain going to be different from Bush? Because we have tired his policy's for 8 years and it has not gone so good.
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bruce-bruce Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1361 Age : 45 Registration date : 2008-06-25
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:42 pm | |
| Bill, you , give me my chedda. | |
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TECH114 Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 4748 Age : 50 Location : Town of DBs Registration date : 2007-06-24
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:53 pm | |
| I don't think either one.. | |
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BillGass Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 893 Age : 52 Registration date : 2007-06-25
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:06 am | |
| Alaska does have socialistic elements to it for sure. Each citizen is paid $3200 a year from the state gov which collects those monies from oil and timber companies.
Palin didn't implement that, nor could she do anything to change it. Previous attempts to lessen or eliminate these payments are voted against by margins that hover around 90%.
Bailing out banks and mortgages is socialistic, however these are not gifts. The government is supposed to be repaid and have assets from the banks that are connected to these loans. Also They are to be paid back with interest. It is an investment by the government into our country, not a redistribution of wealth.
If lower income people have more expendable income, our business probably would do much better, however I don't vote solely for my own personal good but for the good of the country. The vast majority of those employed in the US are employed by small businesses. If These small business owners make under the magic 250 they will grow their business until their income comes close to that point. Then they won't grow it any further. There is no incentive to. They will actually be punished for doing better so why grow? Stay small, don't grow and employ more people, don't create a strong business, that's the message.
So we penalize growth beyond a certain point and gain what? A stronger lower class without motivation to achieve greatness? A ceiling is created under this type of system, where now there is no ceiling.
Our society is far from perfect, however it gives ANYONE the opportunity to succeed. These changes will boost many people but it takes away the desire to achieve more, it penalizes them for being too good or too successful.
We very well may have a president that grew up without and rose to the top. Funny how he wants to make that more difficult for those behind him. | |
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Crash Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 782 Age : 39 Registration date : 2007-06-24
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:14 am | |
| If lower income people have more expendable income, our business probably would do much better, however I don't vote solely for my own personal good but for the good of the country. The vast majority of those employed in the US are employed by small businesses. If These small business owners make under the magic 250 they will grow their business until their income comes close to that point. Then they won't grow it any further. There is no incentive to. They will actually be punished for doing better so why grow? Stay small, don't grow and employ more people, don't create a strong business, that's the message. Take a look at his plan he eliminates the capital gains tax for small business. So if that business was worth 250,000 and they grow it to making 500,000 they don't pay the gains tax on that. Which would be more of a benefit. Or if you don't want to look at this policy just look at the whole joe the plumber video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFC9jv9jfoA at 5 minute into it he explains that he would not tax the gains.
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quad box Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1711 Age : 58 Location : Palm Springs,Ca Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: ROCK THE VOTE Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:14 am | |
| As a registered republican 100% Obama for me, i called this over two years ago you cannot fight two regional wars for over six years and not destroy the American economy! and it's just getting started G.W.Bush has put us in a hole so deep that no matter who wins it's going to be a few years to recover, me and other car audio people feel that car audio will not come back as it was again. i see Obama with a clue, and McCain clueless? and when he added Palin that was it for me i don't see McCain making it two years in the White house which would leave Palin running the Country no way man. This is an New Age and we need out of the box Leadership | |
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