2009 power classes.

First topic message reminder :

Despite all the class changes some things have remained the same.
1. Modified with the below poer classes us still the most popular and competed in division
2. Pro Stock and Super Modified are empty at most events and not much more that that at Finals.



POWER CLASSES:
Stock:
0 – 1000 watts (max 2 amplifiers)
1001-2000 watts (max 4 amplifiers)
2001-4000 watts (max 6 amplifiers)
4001-up watts (unlimited)

Pro Stock: Open Power at 1x and 2x events
0–1000 watts (max 2 amplifiers)
1001-2000 watts (max 4 amplifiers)
2001–up watts (unlimited amplifiers)

Modified:
0 – 1000 watts (max 2 amplifiers)
1001-2000 watts (max 4 amplifiers)
2001-4000 watts (max 6 amplifiers)
4001-up watts (unlimited)

Super Modified: Regular, double and triple point events - Open power class
0 - 2000 watts (Max 4 Amplifiers)
2001 – up watts


Street Beat Classes to reamin the same. Street Beat WILL BE added to the rule book and USACI GENERAL RULES will appy to any gray area.

look interesting, opens it up for some of those amps that got thrown into higher classes. Guess the'll be back possibley.

TECH114 wrote:

Why is that Unique pink Astro not in your avatar?

Maybe we should help him.

Dec at the Hall of Fame in Bryan Tx Dec 21st......

Stingraysevenout wrote:

Dec at the Hall of Fame in Bryan Tx Dec 21st......

Will the B&K be there

U ready to set that recors again now.

any rule changes for sb?

How happy i am that i brought the 9.0 first over the 6.0.

600w doesnt help much anymore. I guess its back to the drawing board to do a hw 5.0 instead.

is there a battery ruling on higher power classes?? Stock plus one batt is tough in anything but 0-1000 for me.

well with these changes now im rethingking about unlmtd, and retiring lol i was going to do so after we had won every prostock class, and now we have new ones so im torn between unlmtd this year or starting over at the bottom and working my way up again

the class matrix is posted.

Keep going in unlimmited dont start over unless you got alot left in ya ..... I cant start over again. Plus with the no 18v for us anymore im kinda at a loss for words... But we will survive. Wow alot o change this season

ps 0-1000 should be two amps same as stock.

bruce-bruce wrote:

ps 0-1000 should be two amps same as stock.

it is

yes it is now thanx hbnic

Kicker Kevin wrote:

Just leave the Stock, PS, Mod classes they why
they are for at least one more year. I didn't see any problem with
them. Competitors and manufacturers were starting to get used to them.
Plus it costs competitors and manufacturers money to keep changing. It
isn't broke!!!!!!!!

If you are going to change anything, change the way you place amps in your classes.
Rate
the amps based on MAX POWER!!!!!!! Support the industry, Retailers, and
competitors!!!!! Make Usaci much easier to compete in. All any and all
amps to be competitive in Usaci. All manufacturers sell amps based on
MAX POWER. No one walks into an Audio store asking what the rating is
at 4 ohms. They want to know what the MAX POWER IT DOES!!!!!!!
MAX POWER
MAX POWER
MAX POWER

Allow
any and all amps to be competitive. Kicker, JL, Rockford, DD, American
Bass, Pyramid, Legacy, DB Drive, Cactus, etc., etc., etc., Gain back
the manufacturers support by allowing their amps to be competitive in
USACI.

Ralph, You have a test bench to test for power at 4,2,1,.5 ohm. YOU CAN TEST FOR MAX POWER.

Again, AMPS ARE SOLD BY THEIR MAX POWER that they produce.

It's that simple.

Ask any amp manufacturer who would be opposed to this rating system.
I'm sure it would be 0!

theyd have to change everything if they rated them for max power...or theyd have everyone in unlimited

Skip01 wrote:

theyd have to change everything if they rated them for max power...or theyd have everyone in unlimited

They are going to change the power classes anyways.
It's simple.

0-1000 Max power 1 or 2 amps
1000-2000 Max power 3 amps
2000-4000 Max power 4 amps
4000+

Besides the dB numbers are getting pretty rediculous. 160dB in all classes. Not many local kids can do near a 160, so they don't show up to finals.

Low power is much more impressive to me. Anyone can do big numbers with lots of power. It's common sense if you add power you are going to do higher numbers.
Why not let the number you do come down to the most efficient system, and the build????

Kicker Kevin wrote:

Skip01 wrote:

theyd have to change everything if they rated them for max power...or theyd have everyone in unlimited

They are going to change the power classes anyways.
It's simple.

0-1000 Max power 1 or 2 amps
1000-2000 Max power 3 amps
2000-4000 Max power 4 amps
4000+

Besides the dB numbers are getting pretty rediculous. 160dB in all classes. Not many local kids can do near a 160, so they don't show up to finals.

Thatd completely shrink all scores

I mean i guess it would help....but i dont see it happening

Skip01 wrote:

Kicker Kevin wrote:

Skip01 wrote:

theyd have to change everything if they rated them for max power...or theyd have everyone in unlimited

They are going to change the power classes anyways.
It's simple.

0-1000 Max power 1 or 2 amps
1000-2000 Max power 3 amps
2000-4000 Max power 4 amps
4000+

Besides the dB numbers are getting pretty rediculous. 160dB in all classes. Not many local kids can do near a 160, so they don't show up to finals.

Thatd completely shrink all scores

I mean i guess it would help....but i dont see it happening

In stock 0-600, we did over 160 db with the same exact subs that were used last year, and basically the same amp. (M3 vs PF600). All we did was built a more efficient system. We did not add any power!!!!!!!!!!!! It's much more challenging and rewarding.

Kicker Kevin wrote:

Skip01 wrote:

Kicker Kevin wrote:

Skip01 wrote:

theyd have to change everything if they rated them for max power...or theyd have everyone in unlimited

They are going to change the power classes anyways.
It's simple.

0-1000 Max power 1 or 2 amps
1000-2000 Max power 3 amps
2000-4000 Max power 4 amps
4000+

Besides the dB numbers are getting pretty rediculous. 160dB in all classes. Not many local kids can do near a 160, so they don't show up to finals.

Thatd completely shrink all scores

I mean i guess it would help....but i dont see it happening

In stock 0-600, we did over 160 db with the same exact subs that were used last year, and basically the same amp. (M3 vs PF600). All we did was built a more efficient system. We did not add any power!!!!!!!!!!!! It's much more challenging and rewarding.

Yehh but that score would have been in 2000-4000 if by max power

ill get dawged out here but your the only one on here trying to get the classes changed back or amps to max ratings the majority dont seem to have an issue with what it is now except for the battery limitations.

want max rating there is a org for that its called db drag, wana put limittions on powern nd govern it well you have midwestspl. This is USACI where we go by 4 ohm ratings this is our montra so to say so im not thinking this will be a good idea at all.

Then some will under rate max it's a no win

sanman wrote:

ill get dawged out here but your the only one on here trying to get the classes changed back or amps to max ratings the majority dont seem to have an issue with what it is now except for the battery limitations.

want max rating there is a org for that its called db drag, wana put limittions on powern nd govern it well you have midwestspl. This is USACI where we go by 4 ohm ratings this is our montra so to say so im not thinking this will be a good idea at all.

x2

ding ding ding

only changes i like to see now is

0-1000=4 batts
1001-2k=12 batts
2k+ unlmtd

Actually, drag doesn't have a limit on power. They have a limit on amps used tho. They also go by number of subs used.

Just clarifying.

right so the max they can get out of amps meaning the highest strongest amp available to them is what they want thats what i meant

real power is the way to go for shure

i like the max power thing.. Then again I'm in sb but i think that would be a good way to get ppl back into it..

lol so 4ohms is not real power? im lost on the comments here