Poll DD

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Okay so if amp gets retested at proper testing as done in the past. And it fails...... Should DD get moved to unlimited it would be there 4 strike in 3 years . Not sure how many chances they give now but...


I Believe they should be rated unlimmited on all amps just for the confution of the published rating and never changing it on both sites.... Any comments.... Im not trying to piss Chris off any more just trying too see everyones view.... I think unlimmited on all there amps for Usaci... How many chances guys.

actually if im not mistaken and I might be but cliff's designs has an amp rated down to .05 as well


just to clarify that part of this massive cock fight

zacdavis wrote:

You've missed my point entirely.

Zac man we will never see eye to eye on the amps thing WE never have and obviously never will.... Thats fine i dont want to loose a friendship over amp bs .....

I see your point, But this is Usaci and ive been with them since it usac years ago... And for 13 years now the amp ratings have always been 4ohm rating... ALWAYS. So this is why i get so worked up at these companies . Ive watched ppl say what you are saying for years but thats what they go bye, and that is why i back it ... Its always been this way over here and everyone always wants it changed ... But none of you will ever relieze its not gonna happen. Ralph likes that his is different and it always has been his way bro.


With that said i do see your point. But your point doesn't fit with the current rules. So i dont know what to say. Cept dont be mad at me over it . Cause im not getting mad at you.

sanman wrote:

actually if im not mistaken and I might be but cliff's designs has an amp rated down to .05 as well


just to clarify that part of this massive cock fight

HEY THERE BUDDY DONT TALK ABOUT MY ROOSTER THAT WAY.

when i brought my first mmats amp in 98 the 1200 models i dont think they were time travelers,mabey they were though..lol

instead of a 4 ohm rating Usaci need to go by a .5 ohm rating or max power...

NO one runs there amps @ 4 ohm any more!

I know and i do agree with you as well Greg but we have to admit thats not the way Usaci does it... So that is my arguement, ive never been a great debater thats for sure .. But ive watched many come and go that have this idea and Ralph has never changed it... So i dont see him changing it. Guys like i said im just going bye current rule ...

TAMU wrote:

when i brought my first mmats amp in 98 the 1200 models i dont think they were time travelers,mabey they were though..lol

???????? Ya lost me.

Yeah Charles that is not me dissing on DB Drive. I let USACI do the rating and I do love DD but not going to bash any company. It is USACI that gives the ratings. I am like you I just run what class I fit in. I enjoy demoing more now that doing a burp anyways.Oh yeah thanks for the clarification Kenny.

Stingraysevenout wrote:

I know and i do agree with you as well Greg but we have to admit thats not the way Usaci does it... So that is my arguement, ive never been a great debater thats for sure .. But ive watched many come and go that have this idea and Ralph has never changed it... So i dont see him changing it. Guys like i said im just going bye current rule ...

ya but when Usaci started there was alot of ppl running there amps @ 4 ohms.... thangs change not NO one runs there amps @ 4 ohms!

Ralph didnt want to change the from Flashdane eather... no it time to move witht the times!

Im thinking so as well . Bro FO SHO

LOL,,,,,, I liked Flashdance days and miss them it blew my mind when we didn't use it anymore. But the power change thing would not blow my mind as much. Flashdance seemed easier to build around. Then the burb deal i was lost at first.

I hear ya Jimbo, but in oder to keep USACi #1 we need to evolve and the current 4ohm rating system has got to go.

"What's the reason for rules?"

Rules are put in place throughout many different sports and competitions for one main purpose....for leveling the playing field, to keep things fair.

We can all agree on that.

As it stands, our particular 4ohm rule does not level the playing field.
Every year, year after year, we're in the exact same position debating what this or that amp actually does at 4ohms when in all actuality it shouldnt make a difference because none of these amps were ever intended to run at 4ohms.

We need to classify amplifiers by their highest published rms rating, regardless of impedance.

This is the only way to level the playing field.

Now, on a side note, if you think about it I was saying that yes, MMats has an advantage over other amps, but its not their fault, it is our rating system that places their amps into these lower classes.

If we were to start classifying amplifiers correctly all of this would be done and over with once and for all.

There are so many advantages to doing this.

#1 It would attract new manufacturer support to USACi from companies that build amps that arent capable of running extremely low impedances.

#2 It would attract new competitors who run 2ohm rated amps.

#3 It would stop the bickering between all of us.

#4 It would attract crossover competitors who don't have lower rated amplifiers.

.....the list goes on, there isnt ONE single good reason I've heard to keep the current 4ohm rating system. In fact, the only reason I've ever heard is because its always been this way.

So, what reason other than that can anybody give that constitutes keeping these 4ohm rating classifications for amplifiers?

OH OHHHHHHHHHHHHH I GOT ONE.































NO, I DONT BUT NAVI'S MOM DOES.

sorry brett. and yes i did run ddm1s when i went for the record at mardi gras like 3 yrs ago, never denied it! i think dd is a great companies and jesse and steve are great guys, ive known them both many, many years. i jumped your ass for mouthing off about db drive "Female dog"! im not sure who you are or who you think you are but i dont hide anything about me or my builds and if you'd like to question the integrity of anything i do just tell me what show and ill be there spankbank or whatever your name is. ive been to biloxi before, hell i lived there when i was a kid. i'll come to a show and stomp your little festiva to the ground, just pick a class!

zacdavis wrote:

I hear ya Jimbo, but in oder to keep USACi #1 we need to evolve and the current 4ohm rating system has got to go.

"What's the reason for rules?"

Rules are put in place throughout many different sports and competitions for one main purpose....for leveling the playing field, to keep things fair.

We can all agree on that.

As it stands, our particular 4ohm rule does not level the playing field.
Every year, year after year, we're in the exact same position debating what this or that amp actually does at 4ohms when in all actuality it shouldnt make a difference because none of these amps were ever intended to run at 4ohms.

We need to classify amplifiers by their highest published rms rating, regardless of impedance.

This is the only way to level the playing field.

Now, on a side note, if you think about it I was saying that yes, MMats has an advantage over other amps, but its not their fault, it is our rating system that places their amps into these lower classes.

If we were to start classifying amplifiers correctly all of this would be done and over with once and for all.

There are so many advantages to doing this.

#1 It would attract new manufacturer support to USACi from companies that build amps that arent capable of running extremely low impedances.

#2 It would attract new competitors who run 2ohm rated amps.

#3 It would stop the bickering between all of us.

#4 It would attract crossover competitors who don't have lower rated amplifiers.

.....the list goes on, there isnt ONE single good reason I've heard to keep the current 4ohm rating system. In fact, the only reason I've ever heard is because its always been this way.

So, what reason other than that can anybody give that constitutes keeping these 4ohm rating classifications for amplifiers?

X2

very well put!

i like pie

Charles said SPANKBANK..... ROFLMAO..... Sorry guys but that shit was funny