Street Beat Options - Vote!

First topic message reminder :

We have two options for the music in Street Beat.

1. Only use the current USACI SPL CD - Music tracks only

2. Only music available through national retailers. The music must contain a discernable bass beat or rhythm (not a tone). The music must contain non-computer generated vocals. (Must be a SONG)


We will conclude the poll at Kickoff on Sunday. Majority wins it.

ibbangin wrote:

towboatbobby wrote:

What I cant figure out,I'm slow ok,Is why are people bi****n about other people using a CD that they themselves can buy,why lay blame on USACI for allowing it,and competitors for using it.Go out and buy it and poof you have the same advantage,if thats what you want to call it.

cause that cd wasn't available like people say it was being sold at finals and only certain people got it...

THAT CD WAS AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE. SHOULD OF ASKED AROUND AND GOT YA ONE. BEEN SAME RESULTS.

HellRzR wrote:

because it defeats the original intension of this class. a 30 sec burp isnt what it was supposed to be.and i could care less im not in sb. but thats the facts

Who did a 30 sec. burp?

almost everyone that won i wont suga coat it

A 30 second burp is better than a 2 second burp.

Its easy, start a ban list

1. Loud as Hell
2. So loud it hurts
3. Dj magic mike

is there any others?

dBSteve wrote:

Its easy, start a ban list

1. Loud as Hell
2. So loud it hurts
3. Dj magic mike

is there any others?

Usaci tries to do things the long and hard way.

There is no way the banning of CD's will work steve. This is a negative comment but true. I cant tell you how many shows I have been through withen the last year year that no one even looked at my car. not in, not digging through nothing, with the exception of the screet ho's, and mike jaffee's shows.

This is not the judges fault, most shows you have one judge to take registration, run the meter, and setup the show. There is no way they can verify every vehicle too. I am guilty of this as well.

With this being said the outlaw classes are not being strictly judged, so how will the SB classes be strictly judged.

its easy, if it sounds like a constant tone, check afterwards. If not, don't check.

this is really easy to do, all you have to do is do it.

competitors police themselfs, all it takes is one snitch or tattle tail to say something to the judge.

Plus, once more competitors know what they "can't" play, chances are they wont.

This is the cheapest way.
This is a way people can still play what they want
Usaci can still produce a SB CD for purchase
Easy to police

From the beginning......

Q: What is the sole purpose of Street Beat?
A: A division for the everyday "joe" to compete in.

Q: Who competes in Street Beat?
A: I would guess there to be more one timers and newbies than serious competitors.

Q: What show/s accumulate the most revenue?
A: Certainly not finals. The bulk of revenue that's generated in this this division is the season's local shows. So shouldn't we cater to the locals wants and needs?



What I'm gettin at is this class was created to bring in new competitors who know little to nothing about SPL but they are...
Kids who "know" what is "loud" in their ride.
Kids who will more than likely compete in local shows only, and
Kids who know nothing about tuning their system, let alone to a particular song.

We will scare these kids away if we restrict them to a certain CD or tell them they can't play their favorite song. If they know anything about their ride its whats song "bangs", "slums", "wangs", "urfin", bottom line this is their only "advantage" they have. Take that away and they'll be discouraged to even enter. (i think)

And hey...at the end of the day this IS competition, and the people who make it to finals are usually serious competitors who've worked hard to find that particular note, or built and tuned their system around a certain cd, ect.....So, don't these competitors deserve to win at the big show/s/finals?

Yes, restricting cd usage will "even" the playing field at finals but what happens to the hundreds of "kids" who frequent the local scene.
Wouldn't it be in USACi's best interest to cater the people who bring in the most revenue in the respective divisions?

My opinion is keep the division as is. I'm with Sibley on this one.

so zac iks saying 1 year and out fools

Ok, what about banning certain CD's at Finals only then?

THis would be great for the one timers who may want to use it. But if your serious about going to finals, you going to knwo what you can and cannot play there.

This would be the best. Let people have fun during the year and at finals be strict.

Option 2 sounds the best. Music that is available through retailers. No test tone cd or bass notes. It must be a song. A originally produced cd. I think this will keep SB more exciting.

option 2 is the only reasonable and fare one

OPTION 2... 3 6 mafia here I come.

oops i meant option 1 my bad

It doesnt really matter,just make a decision for us to go by.

towboatbobby wrote:

It doesnt really matter,just make a decision for us to go by.

Well thats not a very good attitude, USACi is asking what we prefer instead of just making decisions without us.
Be happy our input is in consideration while decisions are being made.

I appreciate the chance to give input on this...but,there seems to be alot of discrepancies and unsureness on what to do by us all,so USACI should set the guidelines and let us make our adjustments accordingly,is that better? It's just that everyone wants a rule change when their fellow competitor does a bit better than them,it's a competition and I agree we need to keep it to where the younger and newer guys can compete,but just like any other sport,I don't see the NFL changing their rules so a High School team can compete with them,it's all on the levels of competition and as I see,thats why USACI has such a wide field of classes to enter,as we progress we move to the more competitive classes and try and try hard.Thats competing,if we level all classes the same,whats the point in having so many?But,I'm not just really sure that just changing the MUSIC selection will satisfy the people,it will be something else after that,we all know that.Anyway,thanks for the chance to voice our opinions and cast the vote.

I vote to leave it the way it was started and has grown/built up to. Choice of any commercially available music CD provided by competitor (No burned CDs).

I wasn't going to vote because I have not competed in street beat (yet). However it would seem to me that the grass roots rules of this class are based around a daily driver type setup. Giving the noobs a place to play. In my opinion the store bought disc is part of the original idea here. It is up to you to find a disc that does well with your setup. If we were to use an official disc it would ruin the fun for a lot of new guys.

Kind of like the Q class has done on the SQ side of things in my opinion. A class designed to bring in fresh people but turn out being more trouble than it's worth for the everyday folks just tryin to have fun.

Looks like someone was not happy with their street beat score and called up to change the rule,cause they don't like how people did some 158-159 in sb1-2-3. I say leave it the same. It took one of our members almost 5 shows to find a good song from his cd's.But that was the fun part of it.

dbracer79 wrote:

I say leave it the same. It took one of our members almost 5 shows to find a good song from his cd's.But that was the fun part of it.

But if they leave it like it is everyone will use the So Loud it Hertz CD so Street Beat will be kind of boring.......

scionsoloxb wrote:

how many ppl do you know got pissed and never comp. again because a person was using a cd like loud as hell and the "other cd"? how many local guys did sb at finals?? any and every cd should be used in sb. what if i dont like "rap" or "rock" define music!!! i listen to bass cds all the time. acually i listen to so loud it hurts and the "other" cd almost daily. lets just get this crap on the move so i can yeild the same results!

if u ride around listening to the "so loud cd" something is wrong!...lol.... jk....nobody is saying u would'nt have won, u wouldn't have hit that score without it, cause there isn't a cd that has a list of notes like that one.. your score would drop when the beat changes or there's a moment without alot of bass. i dont doubt your abilities....

street beat rules say that it has to be a commercially available cd.how are people suppose to ask around about something that they dont known about?

i say lets not allow a cd that was made by someone right before and sold at finals......it has to be something that u can get at hastings or amazon etc.... and leave tha rest tha same...

no "so loud it hertz"
no "loud as hell"

define "music"....so ur saying like who's to say whats "music" ur reaching...sounds like when clinton was debating the word "is"

I'll just leave all this up to you pro's and I'll just try to keep up.Good luck

I have given my input on this topic several times, but I will spout off again on this post.

I don't think that the curent CD is the way to go. A dedicated SB CD is. Using commercially available music will create more grey areas. I had a "commercially available" CD produced last year to ensure my guys weren't at a disadvantage and hopefully to instill some changes in this great class. I love this class, but would like to see some evolution of it.

Ralph, I understand that using 'real' tracks can be very costly, but there are an abundance of talented individuals out there that aspire to reach national recognition. These artists, you will find, will lay down tracks for you for next to nothing. I am certain that many of us on here can come up with lists of people that would do this.

Have a group lay down tracks, mix the tones up in every track, keep it pretty constant thrroughout the track but ensure that it is varied from 30 or 40-80hz.

If you don't want to mandate it at 1x shows, so be it. But require it at multi point shows and certainly at finals. 1 cd will help ensure uniformity.

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I do agree with that 100%,greatly done.

Bump

ibbangin wrote:

define "music"....so ur saying like who's to say whats "music" ur reaching...sounds like when clinton was debating the word "is"

We all know what music is and what music aint


Like i said from beginning...if i cant play Air Forces i dont care to compete