OPINIONS NEEDED ON USACI

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WELL AFTER A LONG HEATED DEBATE ON FB IT SEEMS PEOPLE THINK OF USACI AS AN ORG THAT DOESNT HAVE ANY STRUCTURED RULES OR ANY TYPE OF JUDGES THAT CARE TO ENFORCE THE RULES. I AM WONDERING IS THIS WHY YOU GUYS PLAY HERE BECASUE YOU CAN BASICALLY DO WHAT YOU WNAT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, ANDGET AWAY WITH IT JUST TO SKIP FINALS AND NEVER BE CORRECT ON BEING WRONG????


THIS IS A SIMPLE COPY AND PASTE FROM A COMPETITOR ON FB:

Alan Hall: I don't get why your choosing HERE to make usaci all like drag or Mwspl where people give a Dung Pile about rules.


IF THIS IS THE CASE HELL ILL SAVE MY GAS MONEY AND STAY HOME THIS YEAR, AND JUST LET YALL HAVE AT IT INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAKE SURE A FAIR AND LEVEL PLAYING FIELD IS HAD BY ALL.

SO HOW MANY MORE OF YOU GIYS FEEL THIS WAY?????????

RXZILLA YOU WASNT ALLOWED TO RUN WITH PANELS OUT IN PADRE???


BUT SOMEONE ELSE WAS?????

AND THIS CAUSED YOU TO LSOE TO THEM?????

Alan wrote:

Aaaaanndddd. It was more meaning why are YOU (who is not ralph or a director) on FB (of all places to push rule issues) trying to throw a fit and change the world (when no one who does call shots at usaci don't give a crap)..

Read Jeff.. I've clarified it 15 fukin times dude. If you wanna be a usaci hero.. fighting on FB isn't doing Dung Pile..and your fighting for something other officials won't honer.. last time ill explain what I said..

sanman wrote:

RXZILLA YOU WASNT ALLOWED TO RUN WITH PANELS OUT IN PADRE???


BUT SOMEONE ELSE WAS?????

AND THIS CAUSED YOU TO LSOE TO THEM?????

Thats the way I hear it

I ran with panels as per USACi rules sent to me by R&E committee. Then at a triple point event rule are thrown out the window and it's too bad so sad but come back.

sanman wrote:

YOUR NOT WRONG YOU JUST DONT WANT TO LISTEN WHEN I SAY IT

AND NOW YOUR MAD BECAUSE THEY DIDNT LISTEN TO YOU THEN, BUT ARE SPEAKING UP NOW


ALAN STOP MAKING THIS ABOUT YOU MAN ITS ABOUT THE ORG NO MATTER WHO BRINGS IT UP

You made the thread about me . I didn't make anything about me. And I'm not mad about anything that anyone is saying. I just said I was happy people are agreeing.

Jeff don't take this the wrong way. Not saying anything against you, but Ralph has the last say in the rulings. Look at what happened in SB4 in 2010. Just sayin.

AT FINALS I ANSWER TO JENISSA WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE LAST YEAR, AND WE HAD CONFERANCE CALLS WITH RALPH AS WELL BEFORE FINALS WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE


I HAVE NO CLUE WHO THESE OTHER OFFICIALS ARE BUT THEY HAVE NO SAY ON WHAT GOES ON IN THE VERIFICATION LANES.

Lulz, verification doesn't mean much either. C'mon, let's be serious.... Someone got busted red handed and now years later people wanna defend that situation...
Cuz friends iz friendz...

If ya ain't cheating u ain't trying... So jimm it up, watch the sand come out the doors, weld the roof... What ev...

Can't blame Ralph and judges cuz people put in hours of work covering up the cheating.

Jeff.. lets use your wording. ITS NOT ONLY ABOUT YOU ... what you do at finals has nothing to do with the thousands of other competitors who run usaci through the season..

WHATS HAPPEND IN 2010 DIDNT HAPPEN IN 2011

ME AND JENISSA HAD TO COME TOGATHER HAVE A DISCUSSION, AND COME UP WITH A DECISION AND THIS HAPPEND MORE THAN 3 TIMES IN 2011.



SOME PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER THIS WHEN A DECISION WAS MADE I ENSURED TO TELL EVERYONE WITH THE SAME TYPE OF VEHICLE THAT THAT ALSO APPLIED TO THEM AND THEY COULD DO THIS IF THEY WANTED TO AS WELL.


I AM TOTALLY COMMITTED TO BEING AS STRAIGHT UP AS IT CAN BE

sanman wrote:

AT FINALS I ANSWER TO JENISSA WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE LAST YEAR, AND WE HAD CONFERANCE CALLS WITH RALPH AS WELL BEFORE FINALS WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE


I HAVE NO CLUE WHO THESE OTHER OFFICIALS ARE BUT THEY HAVE NO SAY ON WHAT GOES ON IN THE VERIFICATION LANES.

Like I stated before, you were not the judge in 2010. I would rather not mention who was, but a lot of people that were there know. It was a big cluster F$%#!

sanman wrote:

WHATS HAPPEND IN 2010 DIDNT HAPPEN IN 2011

ME AND JENISSA HAD TO COME TOGATHER HAVE A DISCUSSION, AND COME UP WITH A DECISION AND THIS HAPPEND MORE THAN 3 TIMES IN 2011.



SOME PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER THIS WHEN A DECISION WAS MADE I ENSURED TO TELL EVERYONE WITH THE SAME TYPE OF VEHICLE THAT THAT ALSO APPLIED TO THEM AND THEY COULD DO THIS IF THEY WANTED TO AS WELL.


I AM TOTALLY COMMITTED TO BEING AS STRAIGHT UP AS IT CAN BE

True

AND 2010 IS IN THE PAST AND WE MOVED PAST IT ITS NOW 2 YEARS AFTER THAT AND ITS OVER WITH

CORRECT ALAN I CANT NOT HAVE A PROFOUND AFFECT ON ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR

JUST WAHT HAPPENS AT FINALS

Upzaw2000 wrote:

Lulz, verification doesn't mean much either. C'mon, let's be serious.... Someone got busted red handed and now years later people wanna defend that situation...
Cuz friends iz friendz...

If ya ain't cheating u ain't trying... So jimm it up, watch the sand come out the doors, weld the roof... What ev...

Can't blame Ralph and judges cuz people put in hours of work covering up the cheating.

Thie is true, but in reality, just being lazy or likeing someone and letting them cheat or your just fuckn stupid, Its not fuckn hard to miss panels missing. Especialy when you point it out to a judge....WTF.

IM A 1 HITTER QUITER NOW

IVE DONE MY YEARS OF DRIVING AROUND THE MIDWEST ACHIEVING MORE THAN 500 POINTS A YEAR EVERY YEAR TO ATTEND FINALS AND SHOW MY SUPPORT.


NOW IM JUST ALL ABOUT FINALS

sanman wrote:

AND 2010 IS IN THE PAST AND WE MOVED PAST IT ITS NOW 2 YEARS AFTER THAT AND ITS OVER WITH

Agreed, but its things like that, that put people off. Finals gets run how it is supposed to be however the rest of the shows during the year don't.

SO UPZAW ARE YOU A MAN OR DO YOU HAVE A SPLIT TALE



TELL ME WHO YOU ARE REFFERING TO

Alarm God wrote:

Jeff don't take this the wrong way. Not saying anything against you, but Ralph has the last say in the rulings. Look at what happened in SB4 in 2010. Just sayin.

Sb4 wasn't the only class with a problem!!! I have a Couple questions when is the run actually over after someone burps or after the 30 seconds? 2nd question when did it become legal to have part of you electrical in front of the b-pillar? I know the head unit stock battery and alt are all forward but what about other electrical? I know of 2 world titles that possible should not count depending on the answers to these questions!!! Also doesn't the owner of said vehicle have to control the radio not a team mate? 2010 finals was my only but saw first hand 3 vehicles that clearly broke the rules the way I read them!!

I went to the SQ Training with my wife so we could learn more about the SQ side of USACi. The Training was well performed and very educational. My question becomes why isnt there training for the judging on the SPL side? If there is I would be more than happy to attend to make sure that there are qualified judges at the other shows that I could attend.

THE COMPETITOR CAN ACHIVE A SCORE THEN DECIDE TO TAKE THAT SCORE BY SINALING THE LANE JUDGE THEREFORE MAKING THE RUN OVER

WHAT PART OF THE ELECTRICAL ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY

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RXZILLA wrote:

Upzaw2000 wrote:

Lulz, verification doesn't mean much either. C'mon, let's be serious.... Someone got busted red handed and now years later people wanna defend that situation...
Cuz friends iz friendz...

If ya ain't cheating u ain't trying... So jimm it up, watch the sand come out the doors, weld the roof... What ev...

Can't blame Ralph and judges cuz people put in hours of work covering up the cheating.

Thie is true, but in reality, just being lazy or likeing someone and letting them cheat or your just fuckn stupid, Its not fuckn hard to miss panels missing. Especialy when you point it out to a judge....WTF.

lets all avoid the elephant in the room....

Once the test begins, the competitor has thirty seconds to try and achieve the highest score possible.
The music, tone or sweep may be restarted and/or the tracks can be changed as often as possible
within the thirty-second time window. The competitor may choose to stop the SPL testing at any time
before the end of the thirty-second time limit but the judge must be able to verify that the correct

SO NO BALLS AT ALL


CRAZY JUST CRAZY

Ok I guess I didn't see the signal when The cars voltage jumped to 14.74 which was over the 14.7 that was in the rules at the time so oh well the other was a cap under the center console in a SS truck that had half the bed to still put Dung Pile in

THIS IS KINDA VAGUE





A
“competitor” may not run any vehicle under his name or membership number unless said vehicle is
legally registered to the competitor in his state of residence prior to the event date. (A bill of sale will not
fulfill the requirement for this rule. Updated

Not saying any of this made a difference just seems weird

You know what I see. I see a lot of things that will not be addressed again this year, and make more people quit competing. But I guess it is all in how "YOU INTERPRET THE RULES" Now not making that statement towards anyone just pointing it out.

sanman wrote:

THIS IS KINDA VAGUE





A
“competitor” may not run any vehicle under his name or membership number unless said vehicle is
legally registered to the competitor in his state of residence prior to the event date. (A bill of sale will not
fulfill the requirement for this rule. Updated

This is how I saw it but owner in truck and someone outside working the volume seems as weird as the cap under the console

RXZILLA wrote:

Upzaw2000 wrote:

Lulz, verification doesn't mean much either. C'mon, let's be serious.... Someone got busted red handed and now years later people wanna defend that situation...
Cuz friends iz friendz...

If ya ain't cheating u ain't trying... So jimm it up, watch the sand come out the doors, weld the roof... What ev...

Can't blame Ralph and judges cuz people put in hours of work covering up the cheating.

Thie is true, but in reality, just being lazy or likeing someone and letting them cheat or your just fuckn stupid, Its not fuckn hard to miss panels missing. Especialy when you point it out to a judge....WTF.

Lol I know I was there