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bmuhammad1 Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 318 Age : 49 Location : Rite-B-Hind-U Registration date : 2007-06-24
| Subject: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:31 pm | |
| I've ran Focal Utopia for about 6 years and now just thinking about other speakers lines to consider to use in the vehicle. What would you guys suggest as a superior speaker line to go with. Or should i stick with the same company. | |
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BBGIC Big Bald Guy in Charge
Number of posts : 2358 Age : 57 Location : World Wide - 11 Countries Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:29 pm | |
| Try a couple and wee what works best for ya. I know there are several top of the line products out there that will work for you. Focal is great, but one of several. | |
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Maldonadosqs Novice Contributor
Number of posts : 101 Age : 48 Location : Monterrrey N.L. Mexico Registration date : 2009-04-16
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:34 pm | |
| Hi bmuhammed speakers DLS iridium and new line DLS Scandinavia but in my car I competing focal audiom tlr nice tweeters and dls iridium 3 midrange 8 midbass the sound is veri natural and clean
Juan maldonado world final usaci 07.08.09 mustang gt 06 red colorado team Marrufo and team D-Tronics clarion-focal-dls-image dynamics. .........................................
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BBGIC Big Bald Guy in Charge
Number of posts : 2358 Age : 57 Location : World Wide - 11 Countries Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:36 pm | |
| - Maldonadosqs wrote:
- Hi bmuhammed speakers DLS iridium 6.3 the sound is veri natural
Saludos
Juan maldonado world final usaci 07.08.09 mustang gt 06 red colorado team Marrufo and team D-Tronics clarion-focal-dls-image dynamics. ......................................... What he said! | |
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Champion Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 384 Age : 55 Location : usa Registration date : 2009-03-19
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:21 pm | |
| There are many popular brands on the market. A proven winner is the JBL 660GTi 60th anniversary edition speakers, they are great! www.jbl.com
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ALL4SQ Newbie
Number of posts : 15 Age : 54 Location : Seattle Registration date : 2009-04-20
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:44 pm | |
| Please dont forget to look at the Hybrid Audio L8,L4 & L1V2 or L6,L4 & L1v2. Make it an all active crossover setup and I think you will be happy. http://www.hybrid-audio.com/products.htmHappy Holidays! | |
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OnYrMrk Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 893 Age : 57 Location : Oklahoma Registration date : 2007-11-04
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:17 am | |
| Dynaudio Esotar line is extremely nice equipment. You can check them out too.
I am running the Esotec line. Kind of the KRX series as compared to the BE series. I am a Focal fan too. Just wanted to try something different for a change | |
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BBGIC Big Bald Guy in Charge
Number of posts : 2358 Age : 57 Location : World Wide - 11 Countries Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:43 am | |
| - Champion wrote:
- There are many popular brands on the market. A proven winner is the JBL 660GTi 60th anniversary edition speakers, they are great!
www.jbl.com What he said, Too! | |
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BBGIC Big Bald Guy in Charge
Number of posts : 2358 Age : 57 Location : World Wide - 11 Countries Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:43 am | |
| - ALL4SQ wrote:
- Please dont forget to look at the Hybrid Audio L8,L4 & L1V2 or L6,L4 & L1v2.
Make it an all active crossover setup and I think you will be happy.
http://www.hybrid-audio.com/products.htm
Happy Holidays! And him, Too! | |
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BBGIC Big Bald Guy in Charge
Number of posts : 2358 Age : 57 Location : World Wide - 11 Countries Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:44 am | |
| - OnYrMrk wrote:
- Dynaudio Esotar line is extremely nice equipment. You can check them out too.
I am running the Esotec line. Kind of the KRX series as compared to the BE series. I am a Focal fan too. Just wanted to try something different for a change Yeppers! | |
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Cablguy Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 335 Age : 53 Location : Richland, Ms Registration date : 2009-07-28
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:29 am | |
| new stuff comming out soon ... www.bluescaraudio.com ... got prototypes in my truck ... sounds GREAT !!! ... check out my cardomain site for pics ... thanks ... | |
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sqproscott Newbie
Number of posts : 19 Age : 48 Location : Houston, Texas Registration date : 2009-12-07
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:09 am | |
| I will tell you i am running Dynaudio Esotar midbass and tweeter along with Hertz Ribbon drivers for midrange and i have been told the truck sounds amazing, much better now than at finals. I am also using the esotar 12 in a centerconsole box and it is an amazing subwoffer. Keep in mind Dynaudio Drivers are very musical but do not have a strong low end midbass, at least the esotar 6.5. Not sure the ribbons will work well in all applications.
Scott Schroeder 2006 Red Dodge Ram | |
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Chris's Studio Civic Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 687 Registration date : 2007-07-23
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:59 pm | |
| I agree there are many great speaker lines out there. I have had the honor of working with most of the speakers mentioned over the years, as well as winning with many of them. Look for a line that appeals to your clients, has superior technical support, and most of all allows you to make money. Focal has worked very well at every shop I have been associated with and I recomend sticking with there line up. | |
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SQLAltima Novice Contributor
Number of posts : 52 Age : 50 Location : Tuscaloosa, AL Registration date : 2008-11-13
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:28 pm | |
| This post turned into a nascar driver's speech (this is a joke) | |
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jsketoe Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1587 Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:45 pm | |
| Yeah...it feels like that part of Talledega Nights where he can't see out of the car. | |
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bmuhammad1 Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 318 Age : 49 Location : Rite-B-Hind-U Registration date : 2007-06-24
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:02 pm | |
| The three that Im looking at are Focal KRX2 6 inch comp, Legatia Pro 6 inch comp, or the JL Audio zr 6inch comp. One set for the front and one set for the rear. And a 5 inch center channel driver. Im honestly looking to try to get something within the next two weeks so i can start building while the snow is here...lol | |
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Matt_Sibley Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 957 Age : 38 Location : Baton Rouge, LA Registration date : 2007-06-25
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:20 pm | |
| The new TN53 tweeter in the KRX2 is nice and the midranges have always been good. I've had no hands on experience with any of the others though. If you are talking about bringing in a new line for a store I'd have to say go Focal like Chris said. | |
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jsketoe Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1587 Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:06 pm | |
| The JL ZR's aren't even in the same ballpark as what you are mentioning IMO. I don't like the tweeter with the KRX set...unless you are running active...then go for it...it's just bright for competition use. In a kick, it may be fine...but up high, it's bright. The mid is just fine. I hope you do the Hybrid Legatia stuff but I will gladly give you my opinions on what I would do if you do Focal. Either way...just pm me or email me. | |
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Champion Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 384 Age : 55 Location : usa Registration date : 2009-03-19
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:11 am | |
| BEING VOTED THE BEST IS EASIER WHEN YOU ACTUALLY ARE THE BEST The JBL 660 GTi. EISA In-Car Speaker System of the Year. EISA's beskrivelse: JBL’s 660 GTi woofer offers extreme power handling, amazingly low distortion and traditional parameters of excellence in sound quality. Every aspect of woofer performance has been carefully tuned to avoid any mechanical distortion, and with a 2-inch extra-large voice coil, power handling is awesome. Tweeter dispersion is carefully tailored by a wave guide at frequencies near to crossover, countering traditional problems with driver dispersion differences. The crossover itself uses only the finest components, and permits tweeter use with and without the waveguide, as well as level adjustment for perfect matching with the woofer. JBL’s GTi660 is a true high-end speaker for music on the move. | |
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Chris's Studio Civic Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 687 Registration date : 2007-07-23
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:26 pm | |
| Reviews are great...and I agree the 660's are a fine speaker. But I would have to disagree on it being the best. I think most would agree that there are many great speakers out there, and I am sure there are many great reviews on all of them. Look for a driver that fits the needs of your system. Take a listen and decide. Almost any good speaker can be manipulted and installed the right way to achieve a winning sound score. | |
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robrice Novice Contributor
Number of posts : 130 Age : 69 Location : tulsa,okla Registration date : 2009-08-09
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:36 pm | |
| i really like the radio shack minmus 7 mounted under the front seats rob rice | |
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Champion Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 384 Age : 55 Location : usa Registration date : 2009-03-19
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:41 am | |
| Chris Pate wrote; "Reviews are great...and I agree the 660's are a fine speaker. But I would have to disagree on it being the best. I think most would agree that there are many great speakers out there, and I am sure there are many great reviews on all of them. Look for a driver that fits the needs of your system. Take a listen and decide. Almost any good speaker can be manipulted and installed the right way to achieve a winning sound score."
We all have to use our own judgement, and determine what works the best for our individual situation... You are correct reviews are reviews,,,, but as I had copied and posted above... Straight from the EISA website.... The JBL 660GTi speakers, have more than a great review written up about them,,,, They won the 2008-2009 EISA award, which puts all of the best speakers against one another in a blind listening test... The 660's outperformed everything else, including the popular 3 way Focal Berillium set.... The judges are industry professionals and media critics, from all across Europe. The EISA awards are very highly acclaimed awards that any company would be very proud to earn.... JL Audio W-7 woofer also won the award for the subwoofer class last year.... As you said any speaker can sound great and any speaker can sound poorly...
The question is this,,,, what can you (the end user) do with any such speaker once you purchase it, and then go to install it? Some speakers are better built, handle more power, put out less distortion than any other speaker on the market..... You get the picture,,, and that picture is a JBL 660GTi Anniversary set of speakers.... | |
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Chris's Studio Civic Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 687 Registration date : 2007-07-23
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:32 pm | |
| Well, I guess this year the DLS Scandanivia Component set is the best component set out there.......Seeing how it won the EISA award for 2009-2010. My point is this,. I am not saying one brand of speakers is superior to another. Speakers are very subjective. Any great speaker can be made to sound great or sound bad. Point being that all the speakers mentioned have won championships and numerous awards (The BE no. 6 kit won the EISA award in 2005-2006, and the No.7 kit won the CES innovation award in 2007). All these guys make a great set of speakers:
Focal JBL Dynaudio Morel DLS Genesis Hybrid Audio Pioneer Alpine F#1 Scan Speak/Vifa Rainbow
Go Listen to some of these speakers and then decide which ones you like. | |
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Champion Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 384 Age : 55 Location : usa Registration date : 2009-03-19
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:04 am | |
| Yes you are correct about this years winner.... The Scandonavia series from DLS won the EISA award this year... Congratulations as they are very nice.... However, the JBL 660 were not submitted for review this year, as well as the no.7 kit.... As they were submitted last year, and they were listened to and judged side by side.... It is up to each company to subject their speakers to the evaluation.... It is a very big and bold move for a company to do this... As you are definately under the knife....
A simple question was asked,,, many people offered their opinions.
We dont need to argue or debate the fact of which speaker is the best.... Proven results speak for themselves, and alot of speakers will satisfy your needs....
The best speaker will not always win a review... The best speaker will not always win at a contest.... The best speaker is and can be many many things.
As a retailer, the best speaker.... Should sound great. Should have great technical support staff to help with any needs.... Should handle alot of power.... Should have a great margin of profit built in.... The JBL speakers do all of these..... As a cunsumer, the best speaker..... Should sound great. Should be easily installed... Should handle alot of power.... Should be moderately priced, so they can be afforded.... The JBL speakers do all of these.... As a competitor, The best speaker should do everything above..... plus be easily tuned, so once they are installed they sound real, and bring the music to life..... The JBL speaker do all of the above.....
The engineers at JBL helped in designing and engineering specialty test equipment, that is used throughout the industry. This very test equipment is used from the beginning of the design of the 660GTi speakers..... The tweeter and mid, that are used in the 660's are some of the cleanest and distortion free speakers ever tested....
My Buick has won 7 IASCA World Championships as well as 4 USACI World Championships (Pro and Expert Level)... Of those championships the last 3 of each were won using one version or another of the 660 GTi speakers.... I won 2 IASCA and 1 USACI world championship while using the JBL 508 Gti speakers.... The other 2 championships were won using Focal one year and Dynaudio one year.... There are several other team JBL members that have won USACi and IASCA and MECA World championships using the 660GTi speakers... One of those competitors was Chris with his Honda Civic. (Expert Level) last year.....
Many of the speakers that have been mentioned throughout this thread have won many, many reviews, many many competitions, not that many of them have won many, many reviews and many many competitions at the highest level of competition..... So as mentioned by many people,,, ask questions, which people have.... Do some research, which people are.... and try to listen to each speaker before making a buying decision, if you are going to invest that kind of money in your speakers...... | |
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robrice Novice Contributor
Number of posts : 130 Age : 69 Location : tulsa,okla Registration date : 2009-08-09
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:47 am | |
| I still like the minimus seven rob | |
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Chris's Studio Civic Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 687 Registration date : 2007-07-23
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:56 am | |
| Exactly, well put. Point well taken....only a few speaker lines have won many. I can gaurantee that Focal drivers have won many titles, and will continue to win them. Strangly enough the Focal speaker line does handle alot of power, has great speakers at every price point, has great margin, and also has a one of the best technicle support staffs around. They also have one of the best engineering staffs ever assembled which builds and designs their speakers. OF the sixteen title winning cars I have built, 13 of them were with focal drivers. | |
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Champion Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 384 Age : 55 Location : usa Registration date : 2009-03-19
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:51 am | |
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Chris's Studio Civic Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 687 Registration date : 2007-07-23
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:59 am | |
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Chris's Studio Civic Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 687 Registration date : 2007-07-23
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:17 pm | |
| Look, I am definitely not trying to infer what you are. I have submitted a list of speakers who are all great. You are trying to imply JBL is the best. That is definitely not true. But heck neither is Focal or any of the other brands I mentioned. What I am saying is all these manufacturers make great speakers which have all been tested, reviewed and given high marks. They all have won many world titles at the "highest level of competition". Your speakers have not received anything that those other speakers havn't. Thats all I am saying. | |
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Champion Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 384 Age : 55 Location : usa Registration date : 2009-03-19
| Subject: Re: What Speaker Line Should I Take! Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:12 pm | |
| Hello Chris,
I know exactly where you, are coming from.... And you are CORRECT, there probably isn't any one speaker that is the BEST. There are many factors that go into that term, and those factors are different for everyone. You beleive what you do, I beleive what I do, and everyone else beleives what they do... As I stated before, I didnt say JBL was the best... I simply COPIED and PASTED the review..... I have not added my opinion about any of the other brands mentioned. I have offered FACTS about the JBL brand... I have offered any gaurantees,,, I can name many reasons in my opinion why one brand is better or worse than another brand. But I am not going to... I am not going to disrespect one brand to boost another, I will continue to list facts about JBL and let you and anyone else form their own opinion....
As I said before there are many, many popular brands on the market.
JBL makes great products from the entry level GT-5 series product, to the GTO series product, to the Power series product, up to the flagship GTi series product... All of which is valued priced within its category.
JBL has more electrical and acoustical engineers than any other company on the planet.
JBL is the oldest "Audio Only" company on the planet. (has been in business longer than any of the others)
JBL has contributed more than any ohther company to the music industry thorugh products and innovation, even winning a "GRAMMY" a couple years for doing so...
JBL has a technical service and support team that is unmatched...
JBL supports competitors.
JBL supports, the competition organizations.....
I wish you the best..... | |
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