USACI no longer allowed to use Brand B name?

This is a message I received from Steve Stern at Brand B in response to the points sharing initiative.

Hi Ralph,

I hope you are doing well.

I've had several members inform me that you are honoring MECA points in 2010. That's fine, but I must ask you not to list or mention MECA by name in any public forums, press releases, or other places, since you are not licensed to use our trademark.

If you would just make that more generic and say that you are honoring participation in other organizations, that should be sufficient.

I know you understand how these trademarks work, and I appreciate your taking care of this as soon as possible.

Best wishes for a happy holiday season

Thanks

Steve

USACI will now refer to the other organizations as Brand A and Brand B and Brand C, etc....

so promoters cat mention the others name in any way shape or form or its trademark infridgement????????

Whoo! The ( other orgs ) are not playing nice!

and my opinion (and that of my trademark attorney):

just an FYI:

Trademarks protect companies from using you trademarks in their business or to make money from them. Use of your company name in referring to your company cannot be protected from media, forums, or any other public use if it is referring to you or your company. That would be like USACI not allowing anyone to say the name USACI in the public forums or in the news media. It is not possible. The use of your name in any forums by any person is not actionable unless it slanderous or misrepresenting. On a national level companies use other companies names to compare products and promote themselves and that is legal as well.

On a side note:

Why would you want to continue to be hostile in the face of an industry that so obviously is tired of it? It is bad for Brand B, USACI, and the industry as a whole., not to mention you own members.

Regular Marx Brothers team! Opps, that is a trademark!

robrice wrote:

you guys are funny

Actually, if I was trying to be funny I would send out an e-mail to Steve, Paul, and Wayne asking them to no longer call USACI USACI. Then I would e-mail the media and 12-volt and tell them the same thing.

This e-mail was unsolicited and I was amazed to receive it. I see no humor at all in this; in fact I see the slow miserable death of an industry as a result of this type of issue. Makes me sick to my stomach in fact.

Foolish bickering.

This program was meant to help out SQ and SQ competitors. It has been revised to avoid confusion.

Lowell, AR
10/23/2009
For Immediate Release

NOTE: Brand A and Brand B are the two other SQ organizations who have a fials and issue points for competition in sq)

USACI to Honor Brand A and Brand B SQ Points

USACI announced today plans to recognize points from both Brand A and Brand B competitions in Sound Quality classes. USACI will count points from BRAND B and BRAND A for those competitors who live in states with few or no USACI SQ events. If a competitor lives in a state with no USACI events then that competitor may use 100% of their points from the other organization(s). In states with USACI SQ available a competitor may use a percentage of their points from either BRAND A or BRAND B toward the USACI finals. This percentage will vary depending on the number of USACI events and will be evaluated on a case by case basis.

USACI's goal with this program is to drive more competitors to local SQ events regardless of the sanction body, allow more opportunities for Sq competitors to attend the World Finals, and befit all the by allowing the competitors compete and earn points without being forced to travel hundreds of miles every weekend. We at USACI hope this program will foster interest in the sport and perhaps open to door to more interaction between the competitors and managers from the various organizations.

For more information call USACI at 479-750-0505 or visit the USACI web site @ www.usaci.org

crazy shitt

take that brand A and B

I wonder if PIZZA or PIE is trademarked?

Brand a and brand b can suck the calcium from my bone.

By honoring Brand A and Brand B points USACI is telling our members in areas with few USACI event to go to these other organizations to get points. We are driving competitors to their shows for them. USACI gains only by supporting the competitors and given them more places to compete. The money for the additional entry fees goes to the other organizations!

This was about helping the members and SQ, not USACI……… (except to maybe earn some goodwill)

No comment.

That dumb, if anything ...other brands should like the extra advertizment of ppl talking bout them...

to much bad blood going around cant we just get along

Thats just silly

I have a trade mark on pizza

well...my opinion of MECA stands...LOL. Go Steve...you have no clue.

look, if I had a shop, and a very well established, international organization wanted to mention my name all the time, plus while mentioning it, they say to go to my shop and they will honor my points, i would feel advertised for free.

No worries it all come to a crashing head

I have to say I DON'T GET IT EITHER. Who would not want FREE advertisement regardless if you support them or not. Makes NO SENSE whatsoever.


Todd Crowder
TeamTCA
24 World Championships

Ive talked to Steve Stern a coulpe of times and he seemed pretty cool,but I guess not.

OH well Ralph you tried to help.. And really hate to break it to everyone... But NOBODY pays attention to or cares to much about it anymore.SQ is dying always has always will.... Its a sinking ship and well SPL is your bread and butter so ohhhhhhhhh well to the SQ side ... You were trying to help cant blame ya there you tried ... Now just do what ya gotta do bro.

Just wondering Jimbo what is it Ralph has got to do?

I havent been on the SQ side in a long time, really when Jimbo and I first started competing, so I dont know of the problems but there are problems in everything even things that you are supposed to have at. No matter what you do you will always dissapoint or upset someone unintentionally or on purpose, it's life you roll with the punches

so what, fornicate em

Ridiculous ...

PerformanceTyler wrote:

Just wondering Jimbo what is it Ralph has got to do?

I thought he was on the right track.. I love all the new ideas so far but to have Meca come in and say that ... I honestly wouldn't honer their points then... I am just dumbfounded he tried to reach out and do something right and blammo now he is infrenging and pissssing off the other org...

James you and Monty and your team and shop have done a ton for SQ i actually think the group of SQ guys now are top notch and thats great still want yall to play here but if he keeps running into brick walls i was saying why try....

Honestly if you ask me bring back having cars inproper class no moded dashe whatso ever in basic and inter..... is a start then bring back SPL in the format screw da ppl worried about blowing their wooofers its audio and then god forbid bring back RTA basically bring back the format from the 90
's and you would see more in attendance as well as keeping going with some of these cash prizes yall been doing that brings em out as well..... But all these you already know.... Those are in my opinion ways to help... As far as org a or b hell im confused now they suck for giving Ralph crap over the sharing points thing... Idiots dont realize it helps their org tooooo ....

for a sport that is dyeing fast.. thats not a good way for Steve to be... but that ors is so fuckkked up any way ... no loss in my book!

Greg McCool wrote:

for a sport that is dyeing fast.. thats not a good way for Steve to be... but that ors is so fuckkked up any way ... no loss in my book!

fornicate brand A & brand C USACI RULES KING! ALWAYS HAS AND ALWAYS WILL

I agee also with jim do away with all the SQ fufu Dung Pile and bring back the hard core basics RTA and the format from when Sq was SQ and much more popular.

We at Loud And Clear use to be a big SQ store but we got tired of spending tons and tons of money to make the car work and look pretty just to have the crowd leave your car when the guy 2 cars over burped a 150 db out of a beater with plywood box!
SQ is cool but the kids want to see the pounders.