Street Beat Rule Question

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Quoted from the Street Beat rules page on www.soundoff.org:
* INTERIOR MODIFICATION LIMITS: No constructed enclosure or speaker placement that may manipulate the SPL sensor may be placed forward of the "B" pillar and will be considered reason to reclassify the vehicle to the Port Wars or Super Port Wars divisions or disqualification. This decision will be at the discretion of the head judge. Factory or factory replacement front seats must be installed in the vehicle in factory locations. Must have the front bench or both front seats. No woofers larger than 8" inches may be forward of the "B" pillars.

Ok with that being stated I need to know if I used fiberglass instead of dynamat on the floorboard under the factory carpet could I still run in SB or would that disqualify the vehicle?

RXZILLA wrote:

Taken from the 2009 USACI rulebook....


Any construction or speaker placement that may manipulate the SPL meter may be considered
reason to reclassify the vehicle to the Port Wars division or disqualification. This decision will be
at the discretion of the head judge.

Boy you sure seem to leave out words that are listed to suit your needs. Here is the rule:
1. No constructed enclosure or speaker placement that may manipulate the SPL sensor may
be placed forward of the “B” pillar and will be considered reason to reclassify the vehicle to the
Port Wars or Super Port Wars divisions or disqualification. This decision will be at the discretion
of the head judge.

dude i think you are a liar. if it wasnt there at finals, that would have been the first thing you defended yourself with. why wait to mention that?

RXZILLA wrote:

Now your trying to back out. Thats funny. You have stated to me and others on 2 diffrent fourms and also in PM's that you did this at finals. Anything else you want to tell us to legitify your win?

Not backing out of anything. and I didn't even talk to you about finals let alone pm you let alone anyone else about it. So you really need to STFU. And wait for a final decision about it.

It goes back to the SPL rules when a vehicle is in question, Jenissa already told you this...you cheeted and were caught. Now your tring to do everything you can to keep a championship legit.

dbdaddy wrote:

dude i think you are a liar. if it wasnt there at finals, that would have been the first thing you defended yourself with. why wait to mention that?

That is fine with me if you think that I am a liar. However I am not defending myself about anything. Simply stating the facts.

Alarm God wrote:

RXZILLA wrote:

Not everyone is in question, you assume they have this, YOUR VEHICLE WAS CAUGHT HAVING THIS AND WAS PLACED IN THE WRONG CLASS AT FINALS. If thats how you want to win, then what else can you do? The explorer should have been in Supermod as per the rules. Its how they are writen, not how you bend or twist them.

How was it caught having this, and placed at the wrong class at finals?
Oh yea at a local show on 10/25/2009 3 weeks after finals, that has no affiliation with USACi or rule against it period. You are assuming that it was in place at finals. Which it was not. You need to rethink your approach on this. Has the vehicle competed at a USACi show since finals? Nope. That is why I even asked about it if it is deemed that it cannot be done, then that is that and it would be taken care of before it competes at a USACi show. So now RXZILLA STFU.

I didnt know u was like this alarm god. I have to say, Im a lil disappointed. U just made urself look like a liar


LULZ wow thats all I gotta say

rd s10 wrote:

that would make u a supermod...... but what if u put a girl on the passanger side with the mic the rules say unmanned not unwomen..... what now Jenissa

Unmanned is unmanned, unwomaned whatever - ok look at it this way UNHUMANED better?

Smartass

As far as this post goes I do not like where you all are going with it. STOP and quit pointing the finger and name calling whatever your doing.

2010 RULES STATE NO MODIFICATIONS FORWARD TO B PILLAR unless you want to be classed in Super Mod or the Port Classes. I will not go back to the 2009 season as it is over, done, sealed, finished.
It was the job of the verification judge to check that out if it was done at world finals or should of been brought to Don's attention that day.



Now what RD....

ShowB wrote:

As far as this post goes I do not like where you all are going with it. STOP and quit pointing the finger and name calling whatever your doing.

2010 RULES STATE NO MODIFICATIONS FORWARD TO B PILLAR unless you want to be classed in Super Mod or the Port Classes. I will not go back to the 2009 season as it is over, done, sealed, finished.



Now what RD....

I think it should be changed in the rule book for better clarification lol

Streetbeat rules are now in SPL rulebook and must go by the guidelines set forth in the main rulebook.

At this time Dynamat is not considered a modification.

RXZILLA wrote:

It goes back to the SPL rules when a vehicle is in question, Jenissa already told you this...you cheeted and were caught. Now your tring to do everything you can to keep a championship legit.

Was the vehicle in question at the time of finals? NO It is being questioned now. And like I stated in an earlier post has it been to a USACi show since? NO

ShowB wrote:

As far as this post goes I do not like where you all are going with it. STOP and quit pointing the finger and name calling whatever your doing.

2010 RULES STATE NO MODIFICATIONS FORWARD TO B PILLAR unless you want to be classed in Super Mod or the Port Classes. I will not go back to the 2009 season as it is over, done, sealed, finished.
It was the job of the verification judge to check that out if it was done at world finals or should of been brought to Don's attention that day.



Now what RD....

Thank you SHOW B That is the info that I needed.

Your welcome

ShowB wrote:

Streetbeat rules are now in SPL rulebook and must go by the guidelines set forth in the main rulebook.

At this time Dynamat is not considered a modification.

Will Dynamat ever be considered a modification?

The man lied. first he said he had glass at finals when he thought it was legal. then when it started to look like he wasnt winning the argument, he said he did not have it at finals. he did lie. he is a liar. that is not name calling. ask him about the first time his voltage was ever checked. that was at finals and he was over.

seems to me he has an MO.............dont mention it untill someone else does.

dbdaddy wrote:

The man lied. first he said he had glass at finals when he thought it was legal. then when it started to look like he wasnt winning the argument, he said he did not have it at finals. he did lie. he is a liar. that is not name calling. ask him about the first time his voltage was ever checked. that was at finals and he was over.

Actually the first run the voltage was 14.7 @ 9:15 a.m. the second rerun @ 2:05 p.m. was 15.2 and was told that we had to drop the voltage down to 14.7 before we could run. Which we did. Any other questions?

dbdaddy wrote:

The man lied. first he said he had glass at finals when he thought it was legal. then when it started to look like he wasnt winning the argument, he said he did not have it at finals. he did lie. he is a liar. that is not name calling. ask him about the first time his voltage was ever checked. that was at finals and he was over.

I never said I had glass at finals, and as far as winning the argument. I simply asked that if it were glassed would be be allowed. Which thanks to SHOW B we now know that no mods forward of the b-pillar will be allowed in 2010.

Alarm God wrote:

dbdaddy wrote:

The man lied. first he said he had glass at finals when he thought it was legal. then when it started to look like he wasnt winning the argument, he said he did not have it at finals. he did lie. he is a liar. that is not name calling. ask him about the first time his voltage was ever checked. that was at finals and he was over.

Actually the first run the voltage was 14.7 @ 9:15 a.m. the second rerun @ 2:05 p.m. was 15.2 and was told that we had to drop the voltage down to 14.7 before we could run. Which we did.

like i said, the first time your voltage was ever checked at any show in the world, you were in fact over. let me quote a different post you wrote.

"The Missing Link piece really only works on 2-3 batteries not 12. Idle voltage is 14.4 - 14.5. if I take out 9 batteries it jumps to 15.2 volts. It has one DC Power Alt. And as far as I know voltage cannot go above 14.7 volts."

as far as you know it is impossible to be at 15.2? cause now you say you were at 15.2

what were you at when you weren't at finals. if you were up there which you now admit is a possibility then your finals invite was bogus.

I think you play dumb until enough questions are asked.

so "as far as you know" you didn't cheat the voltage at any local show to earn your invite?

dbdaddy wrote:

Alarm God wrote:

dbdaddy wrote:

The man lied. first he said he had glass at finals when he thought it was legal. then when it started to look like he wasnt winning the argument, he said he did not have it at finals. he did lie. he is a liar. that is not name calling. ask him about the first time his voltage was ever checked. that was at finals and he was over.

Actually the first run the voltage was 14.7 @ 9:15 a.m. the second rerun @ 2:05 p.m. was 15.2 and was told that we had to drop the voltage down to 14.7 before we could run. Which we did.

like i said, the first time your voltage was ever checked at any show in the world, you were in fact over. let me quote a different post you wrote.

"The Missing Link piece really only works on 2-3 batteries not 12. Idle voltage is 14.4 - 14.5. if I take out 9 batteries it jumps to 15.2 volts. It has one DC Power Alt. And as far as I know voltage cannot go above 14.7 volts."

as far as you know it is impossible to be at 15.2? cause now you say you were at 15.2

what were you at when you weren't at finals. if you were up there which you now admit is a possibility then your finals invite was bogus.

I think you play dumb until enough questions are asked.

so "as far as you know" you didn't cheat the voltage at any local show to earn your invite?

Actually the first time voltage was ever checked the voltage was not over. Like I stated before the second run was over the 14.7v limit and we corrected that before the run started. And the "local shows" were all TP shows. Any other questions?

look man you said 15.2 was impossible. then when it was finally checked, be it your first or second run, i could give a Dung Pile, it was in fact possible for your volts to be over 15. who is to say you were for sure running legal voltage at you TP show. as far as im concerned you probably ran 1000 volts. nobody asked you so why wouldn't you max your alternator out. I already know you are willing to be shady.

Never said impossible. I said that if I removed 9 batteries it would jump to 15.2.

so at finals you removed 9 batteries between runs?

you should probably stop talking buddy. better yet, STFU.

I got my question answered, and that is what I wanted to have happen. As far as your post dbdaddy. You stated that I said it was impossible. I am correcting you.

I noticed ur sig changed LULZ

oh yeah, you said "And as far as I know voltage cannot go above 14.7 volts."


your trying to dance around your own words. that happens to liars. get used to it.

money_inc wrote:

I noticed ur sig changed LULZ

he knows

dbdaddy wrote:

oh yeah, you said "And as far as I know voltage cannot go above 14.7 volts."


your trying to dance around your own words. that happens to liars. get used to it.

That is correct voltage cannot go above 14.7 volts in sb. Which is why we corrected it before we ran.

money_inc wrote:

I noticed ur sig changed LULZ

Yep changed it. Read it and love it.