GROUND LOOP??????????????

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THERE IS WORD OF A GROUND LOOP BEING USED IN A SB CLASS AT FINALS TO ACHEIVE A TONE AFTER THE CD WAS VARIFIED HOW DO YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT THIS BEING DONE IF ITS TRUE.

ITS GROUNDS THE RCA'S OUT TO ACHEIVE A CERTAIN TONE THATS CLOSE TO THE RES FREQ OF THE CAR TO OBTAIN MAX SPL, AND THE FUNNY THING IS THE GUY WAS BRAGGIN ABOUT IT.

It would suck but its not a bad idea

sb should be a 1 year and move up to sb5 or a spl class you guys wont like that, but your no longer beginners either.

why you stop at sb 5 hell he could have won all of the sb classes including 5.

why you stop at sb 5 hell he could have won all of the sb classes including 5.[/quote]

you saying he had a 62 in that car with two 10's? thats very interesting.

I call bs of course know I can c who is truely tellin a lie cuz if he told u that he must have told quis that

u guys see what u want... i put my ### up here for anyone to call but no calls so some seem to have ur minds made up..... jeff i seen u sitting there and i started out at a 59.1 and it only went down....
actually i'm a little flattered that yall see that as a good enough number to think it was cheating or any foul play.... magoo i debated on jumping in ur class and taking first but i didn't want to be a prick... and sb4....i don't do this to piss anyone off and do my best to at least be civil to everyone.... there is a way to hadle this those of u that believe this far fetched crap could've put up the $$$$$.... if u don't have a thousand dollars to put up then maybe take a year off and go to school or look for a better job....

another thing is all i got at finals were " good jobs" "nice numbers" and a couple handshakes then i see this crap... jeff just because ur blunt doesn't mean ur right....

u have talked alot of crap to me on here... but u didn't say anything to me at finals.... waited till u got home to run ur mouth that's not cool in my book....

did anyone ever find out if you can use the same sb car in any sb class at finals? id sure hate to take sb3,4 away from ya billy.

Navi wrote:

But it shouldnt take a grand coming out of someones pocket to enforce rules.....

True but in order to maintain smooth flow in the event, maybe that's what it takes. The protest procedure is also there to get the judge's and the head judge's attention in a lot of cases. If it is a simple rule clarification or your noted lack of enforcement then someone shouldn't have ANY problem throwing down a G because they know they are going to get it back in short order.

Ya'll have your choice... continue protesting the way you do now and get out of there waaaaay after dark or protest the way that you should and maintain smooth flow of the event and beat everyone out of the building. It takes some big stones to believe in something enough to throw down the house payment for next month to prove a point... trust me... I've done it...

actually i said something to you or dont you remember over reacting about volyage before quis even started his run???????

this showed me how you really arent in tune with the rules at all he was over voltage, and if he would have started the run like that i would have said samething and if you would have waited for that then you would have been correct in every way, but since you didnt wait you were just being all pissy man. dont act like ure Dung Pile dont stink bro.

sanman wrote:

ok tamu maybe your not the smartest guy in the world wich means you did not comprehend what I have went back and said so keep up this time ok.


I said with the current rules this is not an issue for the music started, and then it got solid I was actually sittin right there, and I was not the only one that said wow ummmm ok I seen the bar graph wich was not being paid attention to untill after this run because of this run. Matt looked at the cd it was looked at agaon if im not mistaken, and to be quite honest im not the one that said something about the run someone else did.

Tamu here is a ? for you how many peaks does it take in the bar graph to be determined music.

wether this or did not accur its smart in my opinion because quite honestly music ran then a tone.

yall bitches need to get off of quis nuts because he aint said Dung Pile in a negative way to any of you I did. Im the one that has brougth all of this up. It was negative at first now I just want to see stricter rules in place every year the beginners class in this sport seems to be munipulated by seasoned vets so whats beginner about it anymore.

sb should be a 1 year and move up to sb5 or a spl class you guys wont like that, but your no longer beginners either.

get off his nuts????? he lied if that is what he told u... and he's in it as much as u.....he wrote me in private and said he did not say this.... i'm a seasoned vet well i'll take that as a compliment but quis has been competeing as long as i have... it was ok for so called vets earlier in the year when ur tellin me how quis was gonna whoop my ass this year.... but when he doesn't win it's a different story..... also said don't be surprised when bruce get s in my face when we meet, didn't happen.... u like starting crap plain and simple.....

quis don't go behind my back and start Dung Pile and then be friends in private.... like i said before we all see each other at least once a year so if u have any problems with me tell me then....

as of right now i have no problems with any of u... i think it is sad fo people to do this though

sanman wrote:

actually i said something to you or dont you remember over reacting about volyage before quis even started his run???????

this showed me how you really arent in tune with the rules at all he was over voltage, and if he would have started the run like that i would have said samething and if you would have waited for that then you would have been correct in every way, but since you didnt wait you were just being all pissy man. dont act like ure Dung Pile dont stink bro.

not at all acting like that... u are right i did over react... jeff u know what i'm saying people on here talk any kind of way.... and this didn't happen in person... u did say something to me but u didn't continue to curse me... i just want u to show me the same amount of respect i show u....

txcomp wrote:

Navi wrote:

But it shouldnt take a grand coming out of someones pocket to enforce rules.....

True but in order to maintain smooth flow in the event, maybe that's what it takes. The protest procedure is also there to get the judge's and the head judge's attention in a lot of cases. If it is a simple rule clarification or your noted lack of enforcement then someone shouldn't have ANY problem throwing down a G because they know they are going to get it back in short order.

Ya'll have your choice... continue protesting the way you do now and get out of there waaaaay after dark or protest the way that you should and maintain smooth flow of the event and beat everyone out of the building. It takes some big stones to believe in something enough to throw down the house payment for next month to prove a point... trust me... I've done it...

look at it this way i sopposedly told him with my own mouth that i did this and he didn't say anything to anyone till finals was over or he didn't put up a the money.... if i was sure that someone one cheating i wouldn't have a problem with puting up the money what risk is there i mean u apperently know there cheating right?????

if anyone ever wants to protest my car at any show... i'll give u half ur money back....

scionsoloxb wrote:

did anyone ever find out if you can use the same sb car in any sb class at finals? id sure hate to take sb3,4 away from ya billy.

maybe thats the other reason i didn't do it...jk lol

another point is i used less powa than any other sb competitor there...

and i didn't say that to be a prick... i feel like i put up a good number and worked hard and this takes away from it... jeff, i'm sure u don't like when people say u bought ur titles because u bought ur truck from another competitor(not saying u did) b ut u can see my point...

he told bruce this i hear about it sunday he didnt wait till finals is over

billy listen or read these words carefully if you in fact did this I did not see anything in the rules that states its illeagal so therefore what do you think there is to protest nothing at all.

I said it before in this thread also its in a greay area if in fact you did it thats where champions are made at the greay area those willing to do what it takes without breaking any written rules do I need to break that down any further cause I sure hope I dont have to.

i bpught it from samsal the way i look at it is they only say that because its a beast wich is true hard work goes into the truck, but there right i did not build the box

then why put this on here and attempt to make me look bad...why didn't this thread say "billy the champion found a way to play in the grey area" or something catchy like that ....lol

the gay area wtf bro

what ?????

yeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i think quis did this as a way to take the focus off him noy being prepared at all what so ever....

quis dont pm me if u want to say something to me say out here in the open for everyone to see.... no secrets here one big happy disfunctional family we are.....

okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!

i never meantioned anyone name on here i simply put up a title, and allowed it to do what it did man

any one that wants to know the truth hit me up i don't work so anytime 7.00am till 10.pm 903-360-5402, billy or sb1 champ yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!!!!

Billy is a close friend of mine and he's not a grey area kinda of competior. I think this is a big misunder standing I got no problem with quis I think jeff was getting on his ass for not being ready and he twized the story up to make it look like he got rob from a title so jeff would get off his ass there is one way to clear this up quis tell the truth

ok for the last time wich seems to be nothing but you slow fella's from Texas Quis didnt say anything to me about this matter do you guys finally understand that now since i had to insult you jesus

I was the judge in the street beat lane. All voltage was verified on peak hold during the run. A few times I had peak hold on before they started there run and would get a spike. I would reset it before the actual run, everytime. No one ran right after starting there car. This is verifed by all the exhause I sucked on all weekend. I was not aware Matt was checking cds also, regardless I checked all cds right before the run and never saw the discs change from one to another. There was a run (don't remember whose) that sounded like a tone but after having the head spl judge look at it and here the judges side it was deemed a legal run. Like I said, I don't know which run or whose car just something that stood out. Take it for what it's worth to you.