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PostSubject: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 28, 2011 6:10 pm

First topic message reminder :

Who is going to participate in the $150 SPL Challenge?

LINK to the main page on CA
LINK TO Page on CACO

Participants:
Chrisbaldelli (Tinmanchris217) - APSM-1300 + 4 HFi12D4 = 138.5dB (@ 82 Hz!)
F3M4 -
MBrooky - Autotek AT2000.1 (525 wRMS @ 2) + lots of cheap subs??
PoundStone - a tiny amp + 3 or 4 15's
TaylorFade - APSM-1300 + 4 HFi12D4
Tijuana_no - cheap "3000" watt amp + 2 HFi12D4 = 146.4 dB
TommyK90 -
Quis -

Amps:
Audiopipe APSM-1300 isn't too stable at 1/2 ohm. 80 amps of fusing. $93.85
Autotek Super Sport AT2000.1 is 1 ohm stable. 100 amps of fusing. $105
Crunch PRZA1500.1 is a beefy 1 ohm amp. 120 amps of fusing. $111
Crunch GPV2000.1 same as above, with 100 amps of fusing. $125
Legacy LA1400 is 2 ohm stable. 80 amps of fusing. $60
Sound Storm SSL EV2500M is 2 ohm stable. 60 amps of fusing. $89
Sound Storm SSL EV3000D is 1 ohm stable. 60 amps of fusing. $114

The challenge is simple, get as loud as possible with $150 or less. Classes are Trunk, SUV, Hatch, and Truck. Sealed or Outlaw is allowable. Just video the score and the setup to show it's legit.

If anyone else is interested, post up. Would be nice to get a group at either of the above shows... and get some attention for the build skills that USACI competitors bring to the table.


@ Admins - This is not meant to take traffic, attention, or money from USACI. This is not affiliated with any organization (or myself). It should bring people to shows, for some light-hearted fun.


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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Mar 15, 2011 3:11 pm

TaylorFade wrote:
chrisbaldelli wrote:
Even if you cheat, there's not really a prize... so there's no incentive to the added effort of cheating.

Actually, this isn't true. I'll be making plaques for the winners and we already have some donations for prizes. For example... ToolMaker is donating some copper quad inputs. Tasty.


So I guess you are running the event on caco? Because my son is running this one and the one on caraudio.com and he is doing plaques out of his own pocket and he is working on much larger prizes then that.


Also, I think the rules are different from Pro-Rabbit's to yours.
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Mar 15, 2011 5:30 pm

Hi Pro-Rabbit's mom (I understand the username now)!

To the best of my understanding, it's one umbrella competition run by your son. Same rules, prizes, and people. TaylorFade and I are just the media outlets for CACO and USACI forums, respectively.

I don't expect that we'll have territory disputes, unless the prizes get too lucrative (LOL). I know some people who'd stab a nun if she were standing in the way of free stuff. That's why I'm trying to minimize the winnings... to keep things fun and light-hearted.
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 31, 2011 11:48 am

First attempt at the $150 Challenge. I didn't have enough time to build a legitimate box... so I took my Finals box (for 2 10's) and made it work for 4 12's.

The results were offensive at best. Peaked at 82 Hz and got 138.5 dB. Sounded like poo to the ear. The little audiopipe amp ran at 1/2 ohm quite nicely.

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INSIDE-OUT BOX, FTL!!!
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 31, 2011 11:55 am

Ouch! Better luck next time ...
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 31, 2011 5:30 pm

It was a fun experiment for small-box theory. These subs don't have the motor strength for it though. They were getting unstable without much power.

According to Bass Box Pro, they require something like 3 cf per woofer... and I read a few comments from a guy who tested them extensively, and he said big box = loud box

Next time I'm thinking ~10 cf box with internal ports. Should be significantly more appropriate.
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 01, 2011 12:15 am

I looked all over the web and from my findings, the Audiopipe amp and 4 hifi subs = over $200 plus shipping, unless you can tell me where to find 4 of those subs for $57.
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 01, 2011 1:55 am

Mark Brus wrote:
I looked all over the web and from my findings, the Audiopipe amp and 4 hifi subs = over $200 plus shipping, unless you can tell me where to find 4 of those subs for $57.

I am with him. I have 2 of these woofers and have been looking for more of them!!
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 01, 2011 6:50 am

Mark Brus wrote:
I looked all over the web and from my findings, the Audiopipe amp and 4 hifi subs = over $200 plus shipping, unless you can tell me where to find 4 of those subs for $57.

....and so it begins. Already have complications with the first pictures posted of the "150 setup." I anticipated such problems arrising.
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 01, 2011 8:50 am

It's been on my mind since day one of the post. I just cant understand how they can get that AP amp and them subs for $150 dollars. I wouldn't say it's a problem though, there are at least 2 or 3 people that have that same setup. Somebody can simply share where they purchased and for how much and then the rest of us will see that it in fact can be bought for $150. If they can't do that then there will be a problem.
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 01, 2011 9:12 am

well i know you can find the amp for like $90 or $100 before shipping and the subs ive seen for 15 all day but if you look you can find them for 12 with a discount coupon get on the caco 1 and it has all the links for equipment or ask taylorfade im sure he knows!!
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 01, 2011 9:18 am

The cheapest Ive seen the subs is for $35 a pair, thats still $163 with the amp.
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 01, 2011 10:00 am

so, shipping is included in the $150 total, or excluded?
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 01, 2011 10:12 am

i dont think there will be a problem at all , this is all about the build , not how much money you have to spend ...... if you can buy the said amps/subs for 150 or less so can everyone else , that means that it can not be used or on sale for one day only , it means anyone anytime can get that item for that price . that is the way i understood it . retail price , ebay , big box stores , walmart , etc...not craigs list , or a local pawn shop . etc....
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 01, 2011 11:25 am

no shipping is not part of the price thats how they get them that cheap you gotta find people that dont include shipping. ill see if i can get you guys more info.
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 01, 2011 12:00 pm

like i said just look around man they find coupon codes that everybody can use but are hard to find from whati can tell they are gettin the 12's for 15ea plus shipping and the amp for 90 plus shipping. thats the other thing findin somebody that doesnt include shipping.
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 01, 2011 12:49 pm

taz wrote:
...this is all about the build , not how much money you have to spend....

really? What's this challenge called? Isn't it the $150 or less challenge???
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 01, 2011 1:27 pm

ARMed&Bangin wrote:
taz wrote:
...this is all about the build , not how much money you have to spend....

really? What's this challenge called? Isn't it the $150 or less challenge???

no sht , as i said its suppose to be about the build you can do WITH 150 of product , NOT who can get the best deal on the product...
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 01, 2011 2:34 pm

oh, alright...thought you had said something retarded like it doesn't matter how much money you spend on it. ma bad, i suppose.
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 02, 2011 2:15 am

It's $150 + Shipping.

Not sure where the point got lost... but this is not like normal USACI event. You don't try to cheat the system and push the rules, just to edge out the next guy. You buy some cheap gear, show off how loud you can get it, and have fun with it.

For the record, there are much "better deals" than what I went with... where you buy $5 woofers with $50 shipping, etc. Hifonics HFi's have an inventory cost of $11 or 12. Even Amazon has them for $15+shipping. 2 packs can be shipped to your door for around $40 from VMInnovations (with the right code). Even if you just do 3 HFi's, it's 90% build and 10% gear.


Back on topic, just like street beat, you have to put in the time researching (instead of songs, it's gear). Just like in SPL, you have to find the box, amp settings, and cabin tweaks to dial in your number.

I see alot of complaining and not alot of testing. Even my 138.5 dB puts me above the guys who don't try.
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 02, 2011 4:04 am

relly it not worth the time since no one give a damn about your score uless you one of them , is juist like most forums if you are not one there GURE'S no one is going to pay attention to your score i just did a 146.6 in video and last lite did a over 147 in the trunk with under 150.00 dollars .but , not interested to post at all no more . it's hard to be completely ignore . I guess I am not a big competitor on other forms . so I decided to do the 1 db per dollar ,but just for the USACI MEMBERS TO SEE , IF YOU KNOW MW YOU BELIEVE IF YOU DON'T ...........................I GIVE A DAMB .BUT , I am done [posting on other forums .................sorry.
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 02, 2011 10:36 am

whats wrong , someone didnt stroke your ego..........didnt say WOW great job.........you need to be a little thicker skined to be on any forum , or a team , a score of 146-+ is actually nothing compared to to days stock/trunk spl scores in usaci , only because they are built for one purpose brrrrrr., five years ago that was loud as hell around town , we had comps and the winners barely did that number with a pair of twelves on a 1000-2000 watt amp , so doing it with 150 dollars of product is good , its just like drag racers , i am sure the numbers at the track are faster now , every thing evolves , the question in will the competetors and or the org change with it , nascar has prob., seen changes over the years , any way got of track.... you dont have to be a vet., to get respect , but dont expect it , earn it.
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 02, 2011 2:12 pm

Darn , great answer cause that is the way I made it sound , but I was not what I wanted to say in totality . I think is a good idea and actually support it .I just think there should be an area where you should post your score and see other peoples scores , not just enter a site and try to post .
Because you are totally correct and that is the reason I don't post in many forums ,I post here cause I know almost everyone in person .
I guess what I simply wanted to say is make a place somewhere where you can post and see the scores.
Again TAZ thanx ,for put it clear great answer , you are even right about the ego .Is good to pump up peoples ego's and do better.
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i just post here to hope you was going to defend that sb1 title in 2010..... i didnt see ya there Sad
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 02, 2011 2:20 pm

I'm doing the $150 challenge, and still playing around. Put a 144 legal sealed the other day and a 147 outlaw. Still tweaking. Not bad for spending $135
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PostSubject: Re: $150 SPL Challenge   $150 SPL Challenge - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 02, 2011 2:22 pm

any crx should do 150 all day long
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Thats why they got diff classes
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I'll be happy to hit 150 with a budget set up.
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I agree 150 should not be a problem on a CRX , but has it been done ?
I might try it on my CRX and see what it does .
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My mazda is not as good as a crx
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scionsoloxb wrote:
i just post here to hope you was going to defend that sb1 title in 2010..... i didnt see ya there Sad

I guess you asking me . I decided to do Street Q and the car I use has a trunk and last year "trunk " was fun , so I tried it.
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