Bruce's car and my thoughts on this entire situation...

I personally verified Bruce's car at World Finals. I checked the entire front and rear of the car. This includes behind the console, in the kick panel, around his box and under his box in the back. There was no tube. I also heard Bruce's car when he hit it in the lanes, the sound that thing made definitely justified the number it did! I will vouch for him on this.

While I do not know the entire story with Bruce, Jeff, McCool, and Team L&C, I do know that due to the drama on the forum I've received quite a few phone calls from others who weren't happy with the way things are. All of this drama really makes the entire organization look bad and I wish you guys could drop it.

Regardless of what any of you may think, this "sport" is a hobby. We don't win money, it doesn't pay anything, its here for fun, for friends, and for a challenge. Lately it seems as if this sport has done the exact opposite for many. A lot of you are whining and bickering like a bunch of 5 year olds. The majority of the people here are 18+ which in most countries means you're an adult. Consider acting like it! Put this behind us and move on. The more it gets brought up the more damage it is doing. To be flat out honest, most of us could care less about this whole deal. We're just tired of seeing it over and over and over again! GROW UP!

amen, I'm done until ruling has been done....we all can speculate, but lets wait until the investigation is complete.

Matt_Sibley wrote:

I personally verified Bruce's car at World Finals. I checked the entire front and rear of the car. This includes behind the console, in the kick panel, around his box and under his box in the back. There was no tube. I also heard Bruce's car when he hit it in the lanes, the sound that thing made definitely justified the number it did! I will vouch for him on this.

While I do not know the entire story with Bruce, Jeff, McCool, and Team L&C, I do know that due to the drama on the forum I've received quite a few phone calls from others who weren't happy with the way things are. All of this drama really makes the entire organization look bad and I wish you guys could drop it.

Regardless of what any of you may think, this "sport" is a hobby. We don't win money, it doesn't pay anything, its here for fun, for friends, and for a challenge. Lately it seems as if this sport has done the exact opposite for many. A lot of you are whining and bickering like a bunch of 5 year olds. The majority of the people here are 18+ which in most countries means you're an adult. Consider acting like it! Put this behind us and move on. The more it gets brought up the more damage it is doing. To be flat out honest, most of us could care less about this whole deal. We're just tired of seeing it over and over and over again! GROW UP!

this is the only post worth reading on this whole forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well said!

Matt_Sibley wrote:

Regardless of what any of you may think, this "sport" is a hobby. We don't win money, it doesn't pay anything, its here for fun, for friends, and for a challenge.

This is goin in my sig

Very good post Matt!!!!

Well put. I vote Matt as a MODERATOR.

Matt_Sibley wrote:

I personally verified Bruce's car at World Finals. I checked the entire front and rear of the car. This includes behind the console, in the kick panel, around his box and under his box in the back. There was no tube. I also heard Bruce's car when he hit it in the lanes, the sound that thing made definitely justified the number it did! I will vouch for him on this.

While I do not know the entire story with Bruce, Jeff, McCool, and Team L&C, I do know that due to the drama on the forum I've received quite a few phone calls from others who weren't happy with the way things are. All of this drama really makes the entire organization look bad and I wish you guys could drop it.

Regardless of what any of you may think, this "sport" is a hobby. We don't win money, it doesn't pay anything, its here for fun, for friends, and for a challenge. Lately it seems as if this sport has done the exact opposite for many. A lot of you are whining and bickering like a bunch of 5 year olds. The majority of the people here are 18+ which in most countries means you're an adult. Consider acting like it! Put this behind us and move on. The more it gets brought up the more damage it is doing. To be flat out honest, most of us could care less about this whole deal. We're just tired of seeing it over and over and over again! GROW UP!

Thanks Matt for the Heads up!
There is NO way to prove it now at all.. The Only thing to address is Bruce was in super stock.... as of a few days ago I did not realize he played in the WRONG class..

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still funny that you are only speaking of 1 person when there was actually 3 of them in the wrong class for the past cpl of years.

there is another heads up for you that you might not know

tell us who? let me guess your EX-Team mates? right?

yeah do you need anymore proof than just my word

LMAO....

thats the 1st time you made me lol in a long time.... thanks I need that this morning!

well sit back and wait and you can laugh when its all said and done and i call you a tool for trying to stand up for them

I’m not standing up for any one...other than Just Jimmy Jackson that got cheated out of a world champ from your boy.......
I really like B. I didn’t want to believe what I heard about him... then after finding out that it was true... it was still hard to take... than finding out he played the wrong class... that’s another strike... and the list goes on.... even with B using you truck... I mean man where does it end?

Did somebody say tool?



BTW, will this work?

nope I like the bigger one Ralph is going to use!

tim was cheated out as well not lastyear but before then

using my truck was not cheating you need to read up on them rules boiiii.

its time for work so after this i will not respond till later so hold the comments cause now you know i wont be back right away

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sanman wrote:

tim was cheated out as well not lastyear but before then

using my truck was not cheating you need to read up on them rules boiiii.

its time for work so after this i will not respond till later so hold the comments cause now you know i wont be back right away

Tim... Tim who? you lost me there.....

and letting every one use your truck at 1 show is agenst the rules!

You guys are drudging on with what Matt asked you to drop. Why don't you guys drop it for now and let the ruling happen.

JS just give me you 87 GN PLZ!

Greg, he means Tim Schaffer.

Hey T, this somewhat continued in another thread.

I can't keep up....

Check out what up son thread

Cheating at finals? Wrong classes? What am I getting into?

everyone lol aside of bruce noone else used it

and bruce did get with the director of the show wich is

Rich Classer and he allowed it so now any beef you have is with him since it was his show so direct all the negativity his way now that you have been informed

Why is all this being pointed at Bruce? What happen to the rest of people who is hiding?

sanman wrote:

everyone lol aside of bruce noone else used it

and bruce did get with the director of the show wich is

Rich Classer and he allowed it so now any beef you have is with him since it was his show so direct all the negativity his way now that you have been informed

I never witnessed any cheating going on. If I would've, something would've been been done then and there.

Jeff, if you witnessed people on your own team cheating and didn't say anything, wouldn't you be just as guilty?

ScreetHoPrez wrote:

sanman wrote:

everyone lol aside of bruce noone else used it

and bruce did get with the director of the show wich is

Rich Classer and he allowed it so now any beef you have is with him since it was his show so direct all the negativity his way now that you have been informed

I never witnessed any cheating going on. If I would've, something would've been been done then and there.

Jeff, if you witnessed people on your own team cheating and didn't say anything, wouldn't you be just as guilty?

good

witnessed them cheating i never did 3 years ago i was told bruce was cheating i emediately went to donny and told him i would not be involved in it so that means im not prevy to that stuff

now the truck was used by bruce after watching him tell ruch he was going to use it cause he did not have a crx at the time, and he was handed the mic back for place in the truck on the floor with noone in it when it was ran.

I never said i witnessed anyone cheating what i said and all i have said is based on ex-teamates saying it was going on.

and the emails i have seen between tracy and other members, as well as member to member that they were receiving free equipment

remember back 2 years ago i borught thisup me and tracy fouht on the forum as well as in email about it, and it was downplayed as much as this whole situation has been by tracy this time so all the happend was people thought i was just pissed at him and talking junk well jokes on all of you who thought i was just lying about it then and here recently.

to say you didnt know these guys were in stock is a flat out lie when you put them on your website as the 601-1800 champion/1801-3k champion, and 1801+ champion there is the proof you knew.


so after admitting they had been receiving equipment, and publishing them on your website who knew who was cheating.