3X show in exira iowa june 29th 1X entry fee

First topic message reminder :

our next show is a triple point for single point entry fee the june 29th in Exira Iowa there is no address its on the city square along with a car show... any question on show call us at 712-243-2381 or for car show cal l712-243-4990

charlesestes wrote:

if its the clamped classes, then yes that promoter is a shady businessman to say the least. he thinks hes god in the 12v world and has no reason to think so. he used to be a great promoter and had a good run of alot of fun shows, but as the years have progressed, so has his greed. he wants your money and wants the show over! as an individual, hes a decent guy, but as far as business or an idea for business, i dont trust him as far as i can throw him and will NEVER compete at any of his events.

THAT IS THE MOST ACURATE DESCRIPTION I HAVE EVER READ IN MY LIFE.......

And not to bring up too much here but ummmmmm MATT AND LIZ for our two newest trial members your ummm gonna start to pisss me off here in about two minutes if it dont stop. Compete where you want to but learn to control what you say to the organization that OUR TEAM WAS FOUNDED FROM.

In my eyes it was a shady asssss cocksucker move and steve has ALWAYS CARED MORE ABOUT MONEY.. He will work with nobody if it does not benifit him..... Alot of you guys have only known the man a couple of years at most. Give it time you will see how he really is one day... And if what ive said hurts any team members feelings ..... SORRY ABOUT YOUR F U C K I N G LUCK

USACI Finals is in Omaha. I hope to see a good turnout from IOWA competitors.

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USACI wrote:

I am always the one who takes the hit.

It's not just you. Jimbo n I takes hits all the time.

I think Jimbo needs a hug. I can see if troy's mom is avail.

PhatSam wrote:

I think Jimbo needs a hug. I can see if troy's mom is avail.

you don't want a hug from that mean vedictive "Female dog".

hey ralph how many points does south dakota need to attend finals?

iowan wrote:

El Jimador wrote:

I have to work in the afternoon. I can make it to the other show and back in time, but I know I would end up running late if I went to Atlantic, so I won't be able to make it this time.

i got a flat tire....

My BEER was Flat!

slumpinhonda wrote:

The_Rowlands wrote:

no beer ...................coke

NO JEFF BEER!

come to the show and eat pie

BillGass wrote:

USACI wrote:

I am always the one who takes the hit.

It's not just you. Jimbo n I takes hits all the time.

bill they did say they were having a loud pipe contest, i dont know what that means, for you though, that could probably mean about anything

ohh shot, the captain was behind me when i posted that, i hope he likes the USACi forum...

i wont make this show but garauntee ill make the next omaha one

You must be coming to Texas then........ Come on get your assss here

sanman wrote:

i wont make this show but garauntee ill make the next omaha one

should do the next lincoln one for swat last year it was pretty small. and bill has big shows usually just think lincoln boys didnt know or somthing...

The_Rowlands wrote:

no beer ...................coke

Coke..........I thought you Iowa boys liked Ice.

Question (and not trying to be funny) How many loyal USACi competitors in that part of the country compete in other organizations anyway?
If it's anything like this forum (meaning loyalty to this organization), the show scheduled on the 29th has nothing to worry about.

Exactly .... The diehards are gonna go to the usaci show. More than likely just sucks to have change price to get ppl to come that way. As bidness well pretty much sucks and Steve i PROMISE will still get his even if not one person showed to the show ..... That is all i will say

i like pizza

1. Looks Like Usaci Is A Tuff Crowd.
2. Nobody From Fort Dodge Was Going To Come Down Anyway!
3. I'm Dedicated To Stereo Comps, Does Not Matter To Me If Its Usaci, Db Drag, Mid West Spl, Or A Local Show That Has Nothing To Do With Points. I Just Like Getting Out Enjoying The Day Meeting New People And Catching Up With Old Friends. Thats What I Thought It Was All About
4. CLAMPING HELPS PREVENT CHEATING THAT MOST PEOPLE SEEM TO COMPLAIN ABOUT!!!!
5. In The Five Years Of Knowing Steve I'v Never Heard Him Say Anything Bad About Another Org. So Why Talk Bad About Him?
6. "I Know I'll Catch Hell From Somebody!"

Youve been going to his shows for years? Kewl have you ever attempted to do bidness with him... Ever discuss money with him? Obviously not or you would know what im talking about... His format is his format but i can almost garantee you he set up this show just because usaci was right down the road that day. Matter of fact word on the street is Usaci had the show first then Steve snuck in. Is that good bidness HELLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOO .sometimes you have to look at longevity rather than making a quick buck.

Actually the show in Fort dodge was originaly scheduled about a month ago with 2 other shows being advertised that weekend it was a Fri, Sat, Sun thing. It had to be cancelled do to dangerous wheather conditions. They held the Fri night show in Mason City, Iowa, a tornado went through the next day and also the shop there got completely flooded. It rained cats and dogs at the Sl show on Sat. There were and still are catastophic wide spread floods all over the midwest, for Iowa it's been the worst in history. The show was not originally scheduled to take business from USACI or other. Not stickin up for anybody just tellin it how it is.

I have to say this. I can't understand what the big "fuss" about. USACi is very well established. Whenever Ralph reports on a show, he usually states, "it's a record turnout" even with the rising gas prices which has put a damper on many Americans travel plans, somehow USACi manages to break all kinds of attendance records.
Having said that, I just went to the other organization's website. They appear to be an upstart or small organization.
USACi has nothing to worry about!
I don't know why Ralph is so paranoid. Why badmouth the other promoter? I would have wished him well. There must be some bad blood somewhere between USACi and the other promoter which kind of makes it personal.
Still, a small organization 100 miles away isn't going to take money out of USACi's pocket which is having a "record breaking year".
If a USACi competitor wishes to compete in another organization, is that considered treason or just a person who makes his or her own decisions?

El Jimador wrote:

Actually the show in Fort dodge was originaly scheduled about a month ago with 2 other shows being advertised that weekend it was a Fri, Sat, Sun thing. It had to be cancelled do to dangerous wheather conditions. They held the Fri night show in Mason City, Iowa, a tornado went through the next day and also the shop there got completely flooded. It rained cats and dogs at the Sl show on Sat. There were and still are catastophic wide spread floods all over the midwest, for Iowa it's been the worst in history. The show was not originally scheduled to take business from USACI or other. Not stickin up for anybody just tellin it how it is.

Thank you very well put...... I understand

Nice wrote:

I have to say this. I can't understand what the big "fuss" about. USACi is very well established. Whenever Ralph reports on a show, he usually states, "it's a record turnout" even with the rising gas prices which has put a damper on many Americans travel plans, somehow USACi manages to break all kinds of attendance records.
Having said that, I just went to the other organization's website. They appear to be an upstart or small organization.
USACi has nothing to worry about!
I don't know why Ralph is so paranoid. Why badmouth the other promoter? I would have wished him well. There must be some bad blood somewhere between USACi and the other promoter which kind of makes it personal.
Still, a small organization 100 miles away isn't going to take money out of USACi's pocket which is having a "record breaking year".
If a USACi competitor wishes to compete in another organization, is that considered treason or just a person who makes his or her own decisions?

Your right and what you said makes sence... I was ranting on about really other issues that dont have much to do with the show... No offense to the RETAILER meant at all . Whoever does what show good luck to ya.

to ralph , first they the other org did not pick date the shop did . i have gone to usaci finals three years in a row , each year i bring more people with me , am i competing in other org , yes , i like clamped power , we have spoke on this twice . your post saying 200 points no exeptions , i under stand your feelings as for you it is same as my feelings about a team member / friend opening shop half mile from my shop , then he does a usaic show last year , i didnt say ralph dont do that or i wont do it again , some of my guys may not make finals with that rule , as they work this weekend and wont make any show . i would rather eat glass then talk to this guy so i do know how you feel .

bad talking other orgs is as bad as someone bad talking manufactures , they all keep our sport/hobby/blood going , even if we dont agree/like them it still adds intrest to car audio , and as a owner we need all we can get , my reason for having several shows a year is to get customer in my shop to do more than install what they bought a walmart or ebay , trying to show the product i run is what i sell , built boxes are loder than most prebuilt , instalation is very inportant , using more than onr org is same as not eating at wendys every day , this is the first year in doing other orgs , just trying something else .

Nice wrote:

Question (and not trying to be funny) How many loyal USACi competitors in that part of the country compete in other organizations anyway?
If it's anything like this forum (meaning loyalty to this organization), the show scheduled on the 29th has nothing to worry about.

Its not the loyal members, its the local guys who travel short distances just to have a good time. That is the bread and butter for the retailer and that is where the problem lies with having shows too close together.

You missed the discussion. It is about the RETAILER and the money he has spent on a promotion that is now being undermined by another retailer and another organization.

Having been a retailer for MANY YEARS I know a little something about this. In fact, USACI is the ONLY ORG run by a past retailer and that was started as a promotional tool for retailers.

Tru Insayne Soundz - amc wrote:

1. Looks Like Usaci Is A Tuff Crowd.
2. Nobody From Fort Dodge Was Going To Come Down Anyway!

And you speak for the entire4 polulation of Fort Dodge?

3. I'm Dedicated To Stereo Comps, Does Not Matter To Me If Its Usaci, Db Drag, Mid West Spl, Or A Local Show That Has Nothing To Do With Points. I Just Like Getting Out Enjoying The Day Meeting New People And Catching Up With Old Friends. Thats What I Thought It Was All About

And that is my point exactly. People like you will stay with the show closest and it will hurt the other show.

4. CLAMPING HELPS PREVENT CHEATING THAT MOST PEOPLE SEEM TO COMPLAIN ABOUT!!!!

Maybe so, maybe not. We al know this industry needed another org.

5. In The Five Years Of Knowing Steve I'v Never Heard Him Say Anything Bad About Another Org. So Why Talk Bad About Him?

Because he has no loyalty and no morals. This is only bad if you think it is. I know Steve and he would probably agree with the statement and even brag about it. If he did the right thing and did not go head to head this weekend no one would be having this discussion. Good thing for him and his association USACI does not do the same in responce.


6. "I Know I'll Catch Hell From Somebody!"

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if they do not know all the facts or their opinion is skewed by loyalties.

El Jimador wrote:

Actually the show in Fort dodge was originaly scheduled about a month ago with 2 other shows being advertised that weekend it was a Fri, Sat, Sun thing. It had to be cancelled do to dangerous wheather conditions. They held the Fri night show in Mason City, Iowa, a tornado went through the next day and also the shop there got completely flooded. It rained cats and dogs at the Sl show on Sat. There were and still are catastophic wide spread floods all over the midwest, for Iowa it's been the worst in history. The show was not originally scheduled to take business from USACI or other. Not stickin up for anybody just tellin it how it is.

That is a terrbile story. Sorry to hear about the floods and problems with the shows. Still does not jusify picking a date that will hurt other retailers. There are still 26 weekends thsi year WIDE OPEN for shows in IA including the ENTIRE MONTH OF JULY.

Nice wrote:

I have to say this. I can't understand what the big "fuss" about. USACi is very well established. Whenever Ralph reports on a show, he usually states, "it's a record turnout" even with the rising gas prices which has put a damper on many Americans travel plans, somehow USACi manages to break all kinds of attendance records.
Having said that, I just went to the other organization's website. They appear to be an upstart or small organization.
USACi has nothing to worry about!
I don't know why Ralph is so paranoid. Why badmouth the other promoter? I would have wished him well. There must be some bad blood somewhere between USACi and the other promoter which kind of makes it personal.
Still, a small organization 100 miles away isn't going to take money out of USACi's pocket which is having a "record breaking year".
If a USACi competitor wishes to compete in another organization, is that considered treason or just a person who makes his or her own decisions?

You obviously are not a retailer who just found out another show is going on right down the road after he has spent weeks of promotion and a lot of money advertising his promotion.

As for Steve Benton, yes he burned USACI and dB Drag. While a director for USACI and DBDRA he was building and promoting his own org using his position with our companies, sending pm's on our forums, and all the time promising us he was not doing the things that is later turned out he was doing.

Despite all that there has been no public issue with him on the part of USACI. Until he decided to take on one of our events head to head we avoided him intentionally and have given him a "WIDE BERTH" in a region where we have many many shows. We have sheduled around him and offered every courtesy we can and in return we get a knife inthe back.


Now you know why I am making an issue of this.