USACI World Championship Series (UWCS)

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UWCS = USACI World Championship Series.


Eastern Finals = Greenville SC - September
Southern Finals = DFW - October
National Finals = Omaha. - November

Score from DFW and SC and NE would carry over to the "NATIONAL TITLE" which would be the results of all three events combined to one!

Advantage: Regional Finals champions bragging rights and people who cannot make it to NE still have a registered score that has to be beaten for the national title.

Disadvantage: You do not make NE and get beat, you do not get a rerun! People at the last event know what number it will take to win…. But, all the more reason to make Omaha if you can!

We have Regional Champions at all three events and then we combine all the results to crown the National Champions!.


A work in progress....... But we have tentative dates reserved in all three locations!



Ideas?

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Just curious here, Geoff, how many USACi shows did you guys have up there this season? Don't take this as a shot at you or those up there, I'm curious.

We had 5 or 6 shows this season. Not as many as we would have liked to. We are working on more shows for next season, with a new approach on how and where they are done.



I like the idea of a national champ. This doesn't seem to replace the normal world championship you would receive at finals for winning your class, it seems to be an extra titile available to those willing to travel to the shows listed. At least that's how I'm reading it. It could also be done as a cumulative thing. Show up at all three big regionals and aquire points towards the national title in your class. That would make it a two out of three if two or more competitors are close in scores. Even if you go into the last regionals (finals) you won't win the national title, but if you've worked on getting louder, you can still get the world championship. If the big regionals are tied 1-1 in a class going into finals, that would make finals even more interesting if the runs their were for the win for national titile and world championship. Just my thoughts on the topic.

you read it wrong, All it is stating that there will be 2 big regionals. DFW and SC. If you post a score at one of the shws you don't have to go to Omaha. But with that being done everyone knows the score to beat and if you don't go to omaha then youcan't do reruns to better the score. then from all the scores at regionals and Omaha the loudest determines Champions of each class.

My take on this is that it would come down to some saying we should all be on the same mic for a finals. I also think this would kill attendance at omaha or wherever finals is held. Also, nothing better than everyone getting in one location to hangout and see each other.

I think it somewhat reflects what another organization has tried or maybe not but keep what is working just finda way to get more vendors at the show instead of changing things like this.

Just my opinion, can't wait to get back into the mix in 2008

I dont care what ya do. Just let me know and I will adjust. I still thank a summer finals would be cool.

If it does happen just don't have the eastern finals the same weekend as NOPI in Sept. Or have the regional at NOPI

cavi_in_kc wrote:

Just curious here, Geoff, how many USACi shows did you guys have up there this season? Don't take this as a shot at you or those up there, I'm curious.

I think we had 6 I went to one. Plan on going to more next year.

Stingraysevenout wrote:

DONT WANT TO HEAR IT WE WENT 16HOURS JUST FINE. That was Geoff not anyone from NY .... You guys are the BOMB for that drive.

Jim I wasn't saying anything bad. I don't care how far I drive really if it World Finals and I have the money for gas. It doesn't bother me. I was simply saying I drive that far since someone asked about the people upnorth ya dare hey..

Big Ed wrote:

My take on this is that it would come down to some saying we should all be on the same mic for a finals.

That's really the only thing that bothers me. We all know how much different sensors can vary, and it would suck if one sensor was up .3 from another, you were on the one that was down, and you lost by .2.

You could get around it by just using the same sensors at each of the three shows. Shouldn't be that hard as they are all in different months. Just have to make sure you use the correct sensor for each lane.

cavi_in_kc wrote:

Big Ed wrote:

My take on this is that it would come down to some saying we should all be on the same mic for a finals.

That's really the only thing that bothers me. We all know how much different sensors can vary, and it would suck if one sensor was up .3 from another, you were on the one that was down, and you lost by .2.

You could get around it by just using the same sensors at each of the three shows. Shouldn't be that hard as they are all in different months. Just have to make sure you use the correct sensor for each lane.

Would take a permant marker to solve. Just right 601-1800 on the sensor and 1001-2000 mod on the same sensor and so on for all other sensor's

Sounds like a good idea.

Jimbo, love the avatar! Everyone knows there's just one game on the Aggies schedule that counts. Ha ha love it.

if i cant see the cars im competing against im not going...this is what sucked the most about drag finals..WAY TOO MUCH BS happens in usac....im not gona lose to a car that posted a number at regionals that slipped by the judges with mdf roof or somthing...if usac was ALOT more thorough checking in cars this could be possible...but with all the policeing we do as competiters..i wont waste my gas money...i mean..maybe we should just link up the internet and just compete from our driveways?? i think this is a bad idea...

Alan_Hall wrote:

if i cant see the cars im competing against im not going...this is what sucked the most about drag finals..WAY TOO MUCH BS happens in usac....im not gona lose to a car that posted a number at regionals that slipped by the judges with mdf roof or somthing...if usac was ALOT more thorough checking in cars this could be possible...but with all the policeing we do as competiters..i wont waste my gas money...i mean..maybe we should just link up the internet and just compete from our driveways?? i think this is a bad idea...

I agree with Alan here. Only one place for the World records which is world finals. Either be there or be square. I feel that with it either at KC or Omaha atleast it is in the middle of the USA. Just as we did at finals all cars in the same class ran on same meter to make it even with possible mics being up by tenths or not. Holla.

World records came be set at any event the B and k is at

Ralph,

Could you please go into detail on how this would work for SQ?

HBG wrote:

We have Regional Champions at all three events and then we combine all the results to crown the National Champions!.



This sounds like a good idea, just like what you would find in an auto racing circuit like Formula 1 or even like NASCAR where teams attends all events and whoever has the highest championship points at the end will be crowned as the national champion.

This would definitely help spike the number of competitors at regionals and thats good for USACi's bottom line.

for real..its world finals...its the one show all year that you may have to put out effort and big $$ to be there....finals should be all in the same place..if i posted a 63.6 at finals..and someone 20 hrs away posted a 63.7...or vs versa...would anyone be happy?

Aside from the meters issue, there is another flaw that needs to be realized.


Unlike Formula 1 and Nascar race teams, that i used as examples earlier, not all USACi competitors are sponsored like race teams. So the majority may not even make it to NE because ofthe lack of available funds and/or time away from work especially for those who are required to work in retail during the latter months of the year.

So, a potential world champion would ideally have an unlimited tank of gas, have all the time in the world and consistently win at Regionals but not necessarily win at NE and they could still be crowned National Champion.


It's still a great idea but it still needs alot of fine tuning to work right.

If this format is ever considered for SQ, it just might work to my advantage.

Because, as it is now, it is difficult to near impossible for me to get approved for time off during November and December.

But I, and others here, still hope finals would be held in September or October because the weather is just more bearable and it doesn't compete with holidays with family.

Streetbeatz01 wrote:

Alan_Hall wrote:

if i cant see the cars im competing against im not going...this is what sucked the most about drag finals..WAY TOO MUCH BS happens in usac....im not gona lose to a car that posted a number at regionals that slipped by the judges with mdf roof or somthing...if usac was ALOT more thorough checking in cars this could be possible...but with all the policeing we do as competiters..i wont waste my gas money...i mean..maybe we should just link up the internet and just compete from our driveways?? i think this is a bad idea...

I agree with Alan here. Only one place for the World records which is world finals. Either be there or be square. I feel that with it either at KC or Omaha atleast it is in the middle of the USA. Just as we did at finals all cars in the same class ran on same meter to make it even with possible mics being up by tenths or not. Holla.

I agree 100%

MAGNATUDE wrote:

If this format is ever considered for SQ, it just might work to my advantage.

Because, as it is now, it is difficult to near impossible for me to get approved for time off during November and December.

But I, and others here, still hope finals would be held in September or October because the weather is just more bearable and it doesn't compete with holidays with family.

I agree 100% with the time.. Lets not mess around when it comes to christmas and thanksgiving. Those also trap people from not coming. Please look at schedule....

before I comment...I want to know the layout for your proposal for SQ.
I would guess...once again I say guess...that an SQ competitor would have to attend one of the regionals and fare well to be able to compete at the National Finals...correct?

I think all you guys are jumping the gun, however you are bringing some ideas and thoughts to this that Ralph probally has not yet considered.

Once again this was " off the cuff " for Ralph to propose such a thing. I think the 'idea' of it is great! Basically have several Regional events leading up to the World Finals. But have bonus's at each Regional event to give incentive for people to travel to Omaha to compete. Basically lifting up Regional events to a higher pedistal.

1. you don't want to discourage involvment at WF in Omaha
2. you want to compete against someone next to you, not the month before in another state or over the internet.
3. cash discounts at finals for participation at the regional events is a great idea.
4. Allow additional re-runs at WF for each regional you went too?

Great ideas, you guys keep coming up with the negatives and positives and I'm sure Ralph and Usaci will put something together nice that will benifit competitors, retailers and Usaci.

BTW - I like the way Ralph thinks!

Hmm...Please explain...


I'm not against going to one of these "regional events" but what does that get us.

jkrob21 wrote:

but what does that get us.

From what I can tell, it gives those that might not be able to make it to Omaha (or wherever finals is) because of whatever reason, a chance to compete and have their score go against those that can.

How about all the Regional directors be incharge of one large Regional event next year. And at that Regional event you can qualify for some sort of an incentatve at the World Finals.

Don, Jaffe, Shane, Larry and others all get their own Regionals ....

dBSteve wrote:

How about all the Regional directors be incharge of one large Regional event next year. And at that Regional event you can qualify for some sort of an incentatve at the World Finals.

Don, Jaffe, Shane, Larry and others all get their own Regionals ....

Sounds like a good idea to me Steve.

Still a big issue is making absolutely sure the same mic is used in the same classes at the regional and finals. I would be worried that someone else in my class may have ran on a different mic that read higher than the one I would be running on at finals. This is an issue, the mics do read differently, as we all saw at this years finals.

for SQ there is absolutely no way a car can be judged at a Regional and it's scores be compared to another at the Finals event. Just won't work. Now...if we wanted to push SQ involvement...the hardcore thinking competitor would encourage USAC to FORCE all SQ cars to attend a Regional prior to the Finals event. That would allow more of a chance for us to go up against one another and get more SQ cars in the lanes at shows other than Finals.

I Love the idea. For the most part because I live in the DFW area.