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Just put the Kenwood In


I have a few batts to install tomorrow and start testing..

alan your wrong jimbo said he burped broke the rd's was offered to use some 2 year old dc's and said sure why not then he dropped them in and instantly gained. also he said them subs took his power and hardly heated up as well.

my rd's had heating issues like crazy when i had them, and i tried to get miller at that time to do something about it and well he never listened.

estes breaks everything man its not just this or that lol

ill agree that spending money and waiting for stuff isnt cool, and causes people to flee rather than flock

Im not denying that. And I definitely think joel needs to put in some face time lol. Cause im doing this issue no help at all lmao.

I've always known jimbo to blow those quads and funky wire jobs.

Alan wrote:

Wasent talking to you. And your situation is different. And really don't know about it besides what you've told me.

And my point was RD will still be winnning.

Yeah, my situation is very different than most in the fact that it's been going on the longest AND I'm getting ignored again... Just the fact that others chime in with issues proves that it's not an isolated situation. I thought I was all alone and everyone else had gotten their problems worked out.

RD may still be winning but If Jimbo gained by switching to DC people will see that there are other options for subs so the only hold RD will have is the d5. If another company comes out with an amp that performs like the d5 or if USACi changes the rules to break the hold RD has, RD will be history. Noone is going to put up with the crap RD dishes out if they don't HAVE to.

mine never got worked out or repaid

food for thought

Blue_C1500 wrote:

Alan wrote:

Wasent talking to you. And your situation is different. And really don't know about it besides what you've told me.

And my point was RD will still be winnning.

Yeah, my situation is very different than most in the fact that it's been going on the longest AND I'm getting ignored again... Just the fact that others chime in with issues proves that it's not an isolated situation. I thought I was all alone and everyone else had gotten their problems worked out.

RD may still be winning but If Jimbo gained by switching to DC people will see that there are other options for subs so the only hold RD will have is the d5. If another company comes out with an amp that performs like the d5 or if USACi changes the rules to break the hold RD has, RD will be history. Noone is going to put up with the crap RD dishes out if they don't HAVE to.

jerry why the fuk are you coming at me like this?? Im not joel.. pick up the fukin phone and call him instead of sending emails to an account that probly Noone answers..

Alan wrote:

Blue_C1500 wrote:

Alan wrote:

Wasent talking to you. And your situation is different. And really don't know about it besides what you've told me.

And my point was RD will still be winnning.

Yeah, my situation is very different than most in the fact that it's been going on the longest AND I'm getting ignored again... Just the fact that others chime in with issues proves that it's not an isolated situation. I thought I was all alone and everyone else had gotten their problems worked out.

RD may still be winning but If Jimbo gained by switching to DC people will see that there are other options for subs so the only hold RD will have is the d5. If another company comes out with an amp that performs like the d5 or if USACi changes the rules to break the hold RD has, RD will be history. Noone is going to put up with the crap RD dishes out if they don't HAVE to.

jerry why the fuk are you coming at me like this?? Im not joel.. pick up the fukin phone and call him instead of sending emails to an account that probly Noone answers..

Slow your roll. I'm not coming at you. I'm going at RD. You're just the only one defending RD's crappy service, like it's acceptable. It's nothing towards you at all. Are you associated with them in some way? Why are you taking it so personal? You're right you aren'y Joel so why get so bent when I talk about RD? You really think he'll answer the phone once he finds out it's me calling? I doubt it seriously. It's funny that we went back and forth on that email account for a few months then all of the sudden "noone answers" it. That's the things I'm referring to that are gonna run them out of business.

Im cool with joel is about all ill say. But I've only defended them in chriss situation ..I've told you many times you had s valid complaint. Which iswhat I meant when I said your situation is different.

sanman wrote:

mine never got worked out or repaid

food for thought

True, I understand that he is apparently going to screw me but that doesn't stop me from telling my story. It's weird because last time I mentioned this Joel actually initiated contact with me like he wanted to do the right thing but after a few conversations I was back to being ignored.

Fyi I got burned from steve for $5,000 !!!! No attempt to make it right. I called atomic and they said my 7500.1 was sitting right in front of him. And tbe other 7500.1 that i paid for in full never was a possibly becaus they are not in production anymore. Not a few subs ..5 mother fukin grand

Not like i am saying joel will burn anyone! Joel is a good honest friend. And i regret even saying anything negative.

chrisfish wrote:

Not like i am saying joel will burn anyone! Joel is a good honest friend. And i regret even saying anything negative.

I know I regretted saying stuff about him before but when he pmd I was like I wish I wouldn't have said that but then he started pulling the same thing again...

All I was doing from the start was saying "come on fish...why ya got to badmouth" I don't know everyones specific situation or what they've discussed with joel.

Exactly alan! I am a embarrassed how i have reacted .but the bottom line is treat others how you want to be treated.

Alan wrote:

bduf wrote:

Loyalty:
The company gets you the products they promise you on time when they say they will and don't make excuses for why they can't live up to their end of the deal.
You as a competitor use there products to do the best you can and show others what the product can do and get more people to use their product.

What was the promise date? What are the excuses? You seem to have all the info. But I bet you don't...this is stupid and unprofessional ..

Everyone keeps saying stop making excuses and get people the product ...as if joel is taking peoples money.. and not giving a crap to get their stiff. The dudes in a bad spot ..that he got himself into yes.. he put himself in a position so he has to rely on someone else to get him his product. If he says he don't have it.. im believing that.. not seeing it as a excuse... and excuse is not shipping something timely and saying.. oh..my kids sick..my cars broke.. not "the china man ant shipping my crap" that's strait up telling someone the truth.. now..I understand as a owner its your place to not let that happen..and you gave to understand how it makes your company look.. everyone is assuming they are just dropping the ball and not giving a crap .. people can do what they want. but I don't think its going to effect finals and product sales.. its just sad really..

I forgot to adress this.
Bduf knows what he is talking about .
he has been here longer then most of us competing
he got burned by steve miller for more cash then i did and i talk to him on a daly basis. He dosnt say much on here. But he knows what he is talking about.

That's cool? I just asked the details..

man..... i love dbdrive

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