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Just put the Kenwood In


I have a few batts to install tomorrow and start testing..

that long without product to sell is almost inexcusable if you ask me.....I know there have been delays getting stuff from companies @ certain times of the year, but never more than a couple weeks or so. I know Fish will make it work out, whatever direction he decides to go from here.....

I know of of y'all have started a company from scratch before. Cause that's basically what's happening. Chris's delay is a completely different than whatever anyone else is talking about.

im not saying chris dont have a valid \"Female dog\". but its more how its being done is really the only reason i said anything.

Been in those shoes before. Waiting 8 months for subs and 4 months for recones. Dung Pile is discouraging to say the least.
09 I waiting 7 months for subs then finally got another lower model sub the day of finals. Literally loaded the subs and did testing there for the first time.

Alan wrote:

i know, and i understand.. i just think is crazy when people jump on a public forum and talk s hit when people on the other end were trying to make things happen.
or for example.i speak my mind on atomic.. but randy point blank talked s hit to other people about me.. george screwed me around on ALOT of arrangements we made. not just a delay or shipping error.. so i feel its more valid to say screw them..and steer people clear of the headache waiting to happen.

were you imformed throughout this time what was up?? or feel like they were just saying eff chris fish and leaving you in the dark?

no one said Fuk off. In fact i talk every week. Juat didnt get the subs on time to go.

Mr.Fish, would you care to answer a text message i sent to you last night?
I would like your input on the matter at hand.

I got norhing?

So.. just ordered 2 more .. wana bet Wednesday /Thursday. There here?

Just gonna keep twisting the knife huh?

SOME PEOPLE FOLLOW

OTHERS

ARE TREND SETTERS

In the civic it looked like a shitload of batteries. In here it is less than half enough

Loyalty:
The company gets you the products they promise you on time when they say they will and don't make excuses for why they can't live up to their end of the deal.
You as a competitor use there products to do the best you can and show others what the product can do and get more people to use their product.

agree

looking good !

sanman wrote:

SOME PEOPLE FOLLOW

OTHERS

ARE TREND SETTERS

I don't understand.

bduf wrote:

Loyalty:
The company gets you the products they promise you on time when they say they will and don't make excuses for why they can't live up to their end of the deal.
You as a competitor use there products to do the best you can and show others what the product can do and get more people to use their product.

What was the promise date? What are the excuses? You seem to have all the info. But I bet you don't...this is stupid and unprofessional ..

Everyone keeps saying stop making excuses and get people the product ...as if joel is taking peoples money.. and not giving a crap to get their stiff. The dudes in a bad spot ..that he got himself into yes.. he put himself in a position so he has to rely on someone else to get him his product. If he says he don't have it.. im believing that.. not seeing it as a excuse... and excuse is not shipping something timely and saying.. oh..my kids sick..my cars broke.. not "the china man ant shipping my crap" that's strait up telling someone the truth.. now..I understand as a owner its your place to not let that happen..and you gave to understand how it makes your company look.. everyone is assuming they are just dropping the ball and not giving a crap .. people can do what they want. but I don't think its going to effect finals and product sales.. its just sad really..

some people try things noone else is doing and make them work while others just buy up what everyone else says works


is that better

Yeah. But nothing in this post is new? Just cause it took Usaci so long to realize dc is hood stuff don't matter. Actually rd is only popular in usaci. But DC is anything but new people use it like crazy and many other brands in other orgs .. lol. What do you think all these PSI parts everone been using are? Lol

And there's no "making" them work. They work great. Same parts I used at finals. The only people who feel they have to "make" them work are people who insist there's night and day score difference from one sub to the next.

just stop alan you not comprehending the fact that im making fun of chris for jumping from product to product


dc has been out for ever and i mean for ever.

i have more respect for those trying the newer product thatn i do for those jumping on the bandwagon


there i have spoken my .02

B2 audio will be in here next

Sense 03 i have used kicker,Memphis and RD. Mot exactly jumpin around at all. I have done nothing but defend RD from the start. Not only on this forum but others as well. All i did was use some subs.that i could get. No biggy. It is not like i am getting a divorce. Just using some subs. Shill! Lmao

Sorry jeff lol. I think its funny that everyone thinks everything is different. Get me a b2 in my hands and i'll tell ya three other subs that use the same Dung Pile.

chrisfish wrote:

Sense 03 i have used kicker,Memphis and RD. Mot exactly jumpin around at all. I have done nothing but defend RD from the start. Not only on this forum but others as well. All i did was use some subs.that i could get. No biggy. It is not like i am getting a divorce. Just using some subs. Shill! Lmao

whatever dude. You've made like 3-4 smartazz jabs at RD in this post alone. Not counting all the others who've chimed in as if they knew the story. That's all I ever commented on.

its just funny to me that Jimbo (i love this dude) uses some dc subs at padre when his rd's keep failing him, and all the sudden all people can talk about is dc.

i mean here is my thoughts its your money you spend it the way you want to, but to be a follower will never get you anywhere at all, but being that guy that goes with companies that arent very well known and making them known makes you a viable asset to them

Alan wrote:

chrisfish wrote:

Sense 03 i have used kicker,Memphis and RD. Mot exactly jumpin around at all. I have done nothing but defend RD from the start. Not only on this forum but others as well. All i did was use some subs.that i could get. No biggy. It is not like i am getting a divorce. Just using some subs. Shill! Lmao

whatever dude. You've made like 3-4 smartazz jabs at RD in this post alone. Not counting all the others who've chimed in as if they knew the story. That's all I ever commented on.

Yes! I was fukin pist! This is only a once a year show. I paid $150 for pre regulation
planed a week off work. Joel was full aware what my plans were . This build has been sitting sence Christmas! I gave 3 of the subs to Sanford to recone at usaci finals . I still dont have them! Anyone would be sick of waiting by now

Jimbo uses a cobbed together coil setup by SJA. I dunno anyone else having failure. And really in our extreme situations they all can fail. Estes broke every DC he put in pinky. But that don't make them junk. Either way. My .02 had nothing to do with product used or trying another brand. Just the mouthing that went along side it.

Alan wrote:

chrisfish wrote:

Sense 03 i have used kicker,Memphis and RD. Mot exactly jumpin around at all. I have done nothing but defend RD from the start. Not only on this forum but others as well. All i did was use some subs.that i could get. No biggy. It is not like i am getting a divorce. Just using some subs. Shill! Lmao

whatever dude. You've made like 3-4 smartazz jabs at RD in this post alone. Not counting all the others who've chimed in as if they knew the story. That's all I ever commented on.

If you're including me is this, I never claimed to know the story. Actually, I was trying to say just the opposite. I wish I did know "the story" but emails have gone unanswered since July of 2011...



As far as this post I'm not sure of bduf's situation but I'll insert mine maybe you can shed some light since you obviously know what is going on over there at Rd.

Alan wrote:

What was the promise date? No actual promise date was made, go figure... What are the excuses? Excuses range from "my partner is on vacation" to "my legal man needs copies of the original transaction" and of course "the ship leaves in a couple of days" You seem to have all the info. But I bet you don't... See above this is stupid and unprofessional .. You're telling me...

Everyone keeps saying stop making excuses and get people the product ...as if joel is taking peoples money.. and not giving a crap to get their stiff. He hasn't even bothered to reply to any of multiple emails sent in the last 8 months. Even if he didn't have the stuff to ship he could at least email me and say that. You know I'm not the type to be a douche unless I'm forcedto do so. I even told him I'd take the used d5s he had in his car if he didn't want to wait for the shipment of new ones to get here. The dudes in a bad spot .. I feel for him. That's why I'm willing to take used amps, to help him out. that he got himself into yes.. Meh, hindsight is 20/20. he put himself in a position so he has to rely on someone else to get him his product. Don't most companies do this? I know that Sundown, Audioque, DD and a few others do. I assumed that most do rely on outside sources. If he says he don't have it.. im believing that.. Yeah, me to. not seeing it as a excuse... and excuse is not shipping something timely and saying.. oh..my kids sick..my cars broke.. not "the china man ant shipping my crap" that's strait up telling someone the truth.. How about "my partners on vacation" or " the ship is leaving in a couple of days"? Where do those fit in? now..I understand as a owner its your place to not let that happen..and you gave to understand how it makes your company look.. everyone is assuming they are just dropping the ball and not giving a crap .. people can do what they want. but I don't think its going to effect finals and product sales.. Everyone knows "what wins on Sunday sells on Monday" and if they can't get RD stuff for whatever reason and people see other stuff in the lanes guess what they're gonna buy? It might not happen over night, but it will happen its just sad really.. That's an understatement...

Wasent talking to you. And your situation is different. And really don't know about it besides what you've told me.

And my point was RD will still be winnning.