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PostSubject: What subs DD vs AQ   What subs DD vs AQ Icon_minitimeWed Nov 10, 2010 4:54 pm

I thought I had decided on the dd 3512's dual 2's but now I see Audioque has the HDC3 (Heavy Duty) Series – Copper Coils.
I have read the AdHDC3 is better than the DD3512 but not better than the DD9512. So what does everyoner think AQ VS DD

Here's the specs for DD(Digital designs) Series 3500e
Voice Coil Diameter 3"
Magnet Weight 240 oz
Power Handling RMS/Peak 1200/4800
Suspension Travel 80 mm
Nominal Impedance D .5, D .7, D1.0, D1.5, D2.0, D4.0 Ohm
DC Resistance D .5 - 3.6 Ohm
Model 3512e
Rec Box (cubic ft) 2.5
Port Area (sq in) 40
Port Length (inches) 22
Woofer Diameter 12"
Free Air Resonance
32 Hz
Qts 0.36
Qes 0.39
Qms 4.81
Vas 40L
Sensitivity 89 dB
Shipping Weight 35 lbs


here's the specs for AQ(Audioque)Model HDC312-A
Woofer Size 12″
Fs 43 Hz
Sd 53m M2
Krm 12.443 mOhm
Erm 0.88
Kxm 118.004 mH
Exm 0.664
Vas 20.99 Ltr
Cms 52.64 uM/H
Mmd 251.649 g
Mms 258.665 g
BL 24.567 TM
Qms 7.313
Qes 0.305
Qts 0.375
Sensitivity 1W/1m 88.172 dB
Magnet Diameter 8.7″
Magnet Weight 340 oz
Coil Diameter 3.0″
Coil Length 2.135″
Useable Throw 3.0″
Continuous Power 1000 W
Music Peak Power 2000


I will be running 4 dual 1's or 2's on an AQ3500
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Hdc3
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RD HW!
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PostSubject: Re: What subs DD vs AQ   What subs DD vs AQ Icon_minitimeWed Nov 10, 2010 6:12 pm

Only one aq3500???
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PostSubject: Re: What subs DD vs AQ   What subs DD vs AQ Icon_minitimeWed Nov 10, 2010 6:36 pm

I want to do 2 but I need a 300+ amp alt for my prelude
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PostSubject: Re: What subs DD vs AQ   What subs DD vs AQ Icon_minitimeWed Nov 10, 2010 6:38 pm

check this out

www.rdaudio.net
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PostSubject: Re: What subs DD vs AQ   What subs DD vs AQ Icon_minitimeWed Nov 10, 2010 7:12 pm

i would do audioque cause of the price you get more bang for ya buck, but them rd's are just stought.
rd's has proven themselves thousand times over an audioque is proven its self in streetbeat.
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Dd or aq only, need some input. Already have a design for them
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PostSubject: Re: What subs DD vs AQ   What subs DD vs AQ Icon_minitimeWed Nov 10, 2010 7:20 pm

i do good with with the DDs, but on the other hand they might be up for sale soon
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Audioque if you want to best beat for the money and also some pretty good CS
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PostSubject: Re: What subs DD vs AQ   What subs DD vs AQ Icon_minitimeThu Nov 11, 2010 10:14 am

fstfred wrote:
i do good with with the DDs, but on the other hand they might be up for sale soon


I would hold on to them Z until whatever else you get proves themselves......many other subs would have been blown by now on them crazy street beat runs
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fstfred wrote:
i do good with with the DDs, but on the other hand they might be up for sale soon


I would hold on to them Z until whatever else you get proves themselves......many other subs would have been blown by now on them crazy street beat runs
Well you know Fred. Everything is for sale for a price! The van, the explorer, the equipment, can't have his soul though he sold that to the spl gods.....lol
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I have looked at the AQ VS DD thing for a good while, and AQ is a good choice for bang for your buck. If you ever plan on putting more power on them than just the one 3500, I would consider the DD. From previous experience with the dd3500 series they didn't last long on 8 Sundown 2k's....lol never really thought they would but had to try. But that was a pair or amps strapped to each sub so well over 4k for sb runs.
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im going to bret, but i think i found something..... Twisted Evil
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whats everyone reasons for thinking the DD will handle more power than the AQ .. im curious the thinking behind that
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Alan wrote:
whats everyone reasons for thinking the DD will handle more power than the AQ .. im curious the thinking behind that
The coils come from two different build house and the dd coils are copper vs the aluminum on the aq. Just a thought.
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PostSubject: Re: What subs DD vs AQ   What subs DD vs AQ Icon_minitimeThu Nov 11, 2010 4:06 pm

well the DD Zs are the only thing ive found to take 8-9K in SB and the way i use it every day
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Alan wrote:
whats everyone reasons for thinking the DD will handle more power than the AQ .. im curious the thinking behind that


American coil vs chinese and also way more cooling in the DD motors.
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Alarm God wrote:
I have looked at the AQ VS DD thing for a good while, and AQ is a good choice for bang for your buck. If you ever plan on putting more power on them than just the one 3500, I would consider the DD. From previous experience with the dd3500 series they didn't last long on 8 Sundown 2k's....lol never really thought they would but had to try. But that was a pair or amps strapped to each sub so well over 4k for sb runs.

Poor poor 3500's lol.....over 2500 to a 3500 is pushing it thats where a 9500 starts to shine though...
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2003f150 wrote:
Alarm God wrote:
I have looked at the AQ VS DD thing for a good while, and AQ is a good choice for bang for your buck. If you ever plan on putting more power on them than just the one 3500, I would consider the DD. From previous experience with the dd3500 series they didn't last long on 8 Sundown 2k's....lol never really thought they would but had to try. But that was a pair or amps strapped to each sub so well over 4k for sb runs.

Poor poor 3500's lol.....over 2500 to a 3500 is pushing it thats where a 9500 starts to shine though...

oh no they didnt like it either just lasted a little longer...lol
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if you want to kow how to blow a DD just ask me..... Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: What subs DD vs AQ   What subs DD vs AQ Icon_minitimeFri Nov 12, 2010 10:09 am

1.So lets compare the Aq copper or alum coil vs the DD 9512, both dual 1 and setup for 1/2 ohm runs. Which would last?? Of course I would start with 1 AQ3500 but will end up straping 2.

2nd part to the question my build was setup for DD 3512 since the air space on 3512 is 2.5 and the 9512 is 2.6, will the 9512 still play effeceintly??
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ithertz wrote:
1.So lets compare the Aq copper or alum coil vs the DD 9512, both dual 1 and setup for 1/2 ohm runs. Which would last?? Of course I would start with 1 AQ3500 but will end up straping 2.

2nd part to the question my build was setup for DD 3512 since the air space on 3512 is 2.5 and the 9512 is 2.6, will the 9512 still play effeceintly??


Yes the 9512 would work in that and I say the 9500s will take more power longer than a aq....thats why you pay the extra you do imo.
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fstfred wrote:
if you want to kow how to blow a DD just ask me..... Twisted Evil


Its not hard to blow any sub with the power you have cheers
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Hey Brett now any good box builders here in Jackson
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Hey Brett now any good box builders here in Jackson


Not in jackson but I could hook you up pm me....
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i build boxes 901-604-9277
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and i have experience with both subs
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2003f150 wrote:
Alan wrote:
whats everyone reasons for thinking the DD will handle more power than the AQ .. im curious the thinking behind that


American coil vs chinese and also way more cooling in the DD motors.

whats the differnence of a chinese and american coil? how do you know the DD is american?

i dont notice a difference in cooling.. but i havent looked much.. fill me in
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American coil would be the aluminum and the copper Chinese. The aluminum coil can take more heat than the copper which stays cooler and can take more power because of the cooling factor. The AQ's will play just as loud as the DD's once they have been broken in properly (10 hours of break in time), 6 layer spiders.
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