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PostSubject: new rules posted   new rules posted Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 2:22 am

but i didnt see any changes to prostock in the actual rules.... i see the class break down but nothing about the actual rules can u have cut thru or is it no wall to allow other cars in there????
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PostSubject: Re: new rules posted   new rules posted Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 2:23 am

Division & Power
Class Amplifier Quantity Allowed Vehicle Interior Modifications Battery
Quantity Allowed
Caps Alternators Max Volts Max RPM's
Street Beat Divisions
Street Beat - 1 Unlimited Limited* Unlimited Unlimited 1 14.7 1200
Street Beat - 2 Unlimited Limited* Unlimited Unlimited 1 14.7 1200
Street Beat - 3 Unlimited Limited* Unlimited Unlimited 1 14.7 1200
Street Beat - 4 Unlimited Limited* Unlimited Unlimited 1 14.7 1200
Street Beat - 5 Unlimited Limited* Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 1200
Stock Divisions
Stock 0-600 Watts 1 No 1+ Stock** Unlimited Unlimited 14.7 1200
Stock 601-1800 Watts 3 No 1+ Stock** Unlimited Unlimited 14.7 1200
Stock 1801+ Watts Unlimited No Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 14.7 1200
Pro Stock Divisions
Pro Stock - No Wall 0-600 Watts 1 Behind "B" Pillar - Below Glass Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 1200
Pro Stock - No Wall 601-1800 Watts 3 Behind "B" Pillar - Below Glass Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 1200
Pro Stock - No Wall 1801+ Watts Unlimited Behind "B" Pillar - Below Glass Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 1200
Modified Divisions
Modified 0-1000 Watts 2 Behind the "B" Pillar Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 1200
Modified 1001-2000 Watts 4 Behind the "B" Pillar Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 1200
Modified 2001-4000 Watts 8 Behind the "B" Pillar Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 1200
Modified 4001+ Watts Unlimited Behind the "B" Pillar Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 1200
Super Modified Divisions
Super Modified 0-4000 Watts 8 Yes Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 1200
Super Modified 4001+ Watts Unlimited Yes Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 1200
Trunk Divisions
Trunk 0-1000 Watts 2 Trunk Only 1+ Stock** Unlimited 1 14.7 1200
Trunk 1001+ Watts Unlimited Trunk Only 2+ Stock** Unlimited Unlimited 14.7 1200
Port Wars Division
Port Wars Unlimited Yes Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 1200
Super Port Wars Unlimited Yes Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 1200
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and what kind of mods are allowed under the window lline and behind the b piler
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PostSubject: Re: new rules posted   new rules posted Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 2:30 am

if cut thru are allowed i dont get how we can call it stock????? or was it just to shut up jimbo so he doesnt freak out over not having a pro stock class...lol
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PostSubject: Re: new rules posted   new rules posted Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 2:31 am

i guess im the only one up???????????
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PostSubject: Re: new rules posted   new rules posted Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 3:53 am

The question I have is why can someone running in the stock classes have more than 1 alternator, but not in street beat 1-4? I mean really how many "consumers" have more than 1 alternator in their daily vehicle? Street Beat takes alot more power to run for 30 seconds than to burp for what 3-5 seconds. If there was to be rule changes then that is where I personally would have started. Make the classes match what they are. Stock should be stock. No multiple alternator setups that would be prostock. Battery limits for stock should be according to amplifier power. I mean look at the trunk classes 0-1000 gets 1+stock battery and 1 alternator, but 1001+ get unlimited batteries and alternators. I my opinion street beat should have been allowed multiple alternators not the stock classes. Prostock should be exactly that prostock, multiple batteries, alternators...ect. If I am wrong in my thinking someone please explain it to me so I can understand why.
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PostSubject: Re: new rules posted   new rules posted Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 8:14 am

It does say this for "mods".. "Behind "B" Pillar - Below Glass" so i guess anything goes behind the B pillar and below the window line? Sounds like a blow thru works..
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PostSubject: Re: new rules posted   new rules posted Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 8:19 am

if you are still comparing any class in usaci to what real consumers do you have comprehension issues....
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PostSubject: Re: new rules posted   new rules posted Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 9:06 am

Navi wrote:
if you are still comparing any class in usaci to what real consumers do you have comprehension issues....
No comprehension issues here, just trying to find out why a "stock" class vehicle can have multiple alternators but not streetbeat 1-4.
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PostSubject: Re: new rules posted   new rules posted Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 9:08 am

Also what about the 36" rule for minitrucks? Is that still in effect?
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PostSubject: Re: new rules posted   new rules posted Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 9:16 am

there are enough regular non pro consumers that have dual alternators that there are prefab brackets to do it with. if it was pros only, we would still be fabricating brackets. my point is that street beat 1-5 should all be allowed to use as many alternators as it takes to beat the street. voltage should be the only difference between pro and not. there are more woofers to power in the weakest sb4 car for 30 sec. than in the biggest trunk car for 1 sec. but they can put two hundred alternators if it will fit just to burp.
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they took away stock 1801-3000 Sad looks like stock 601-1800 for me Sad
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PostSubject: Re: new rules posted   new rules posted Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 9:19 am

I agree street beaters should be allowed more alternators, but dont take them away from us stock guys! I'm kinda screwed now that there is no more stock 1801-3000! Mark brus is gunna murder me! Oh well I'll give it my best and thats all i can do!
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u havent bought amps yet just drop dpwn to 601-1800
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hunterw wrote:
they took away stock 1801-3000 Sad looks like stock 601-1800 for me Sad
THAT MEANS YOUR WORLD RECORD GOES BYE BYE......OR RETIRED??
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PostSubject: Re: new rules posted   new rules posted Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 12:31 pm

Hmmmmmmmmm lol thanks d... to shut jimbo up thats awsome and it worked my ocd wouldn't of been able to handle it..lol

Yes i need to know about the 36" rule as well.... Ralph you have to at least limit the no wall batt room or let us have MORE .....
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PostSubject: Re: new rules posted   new rules posted Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 12:46 pm

ok just tall to darville no more 36" rule and cut thru are allowed
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PostSubject: Re: new rules posted   new rules posted Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 12:46 pm

Alarm God wrote:
The question I have is why can someone running in the stock classes have more than 1 alternator, but not in street beat 1-4? I mean really how many "consumers" have more than 1 alternator in their daily vehicle? Street Beat takes alot more power to run for 30 seconds than to burp for what 3-5 seconds. If there was to be rule changes then that is where I personally would have started. Make the classes match what they are. Stock should be stock. No multiple alternator setups that would be prostock. Battery limits for stock should be according to amplifier power. I mean look at the trunk classes 0-1000 gets 1+stock battery and 1 alternator, but 1001+ get unlimited batteries and alternators. I my opinion street beat should have been allowed multiple alternators not the stock classes. Prostock should be exactly that prostock, multiple batteries, alternators...ect. If I am wrong in my thinking someone please explain it to me so I can understand why.


Its because when streetbeat was first introduced, it was ment to be for the average consumer to start with. It was ment to be a 1 year event for anyone, then they were to move up to a regular USACI class. The class became very popular and now its a 200 point class like all the other ones and is all up for grabs now. It is a good question AG.
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PostSubject: Re: new rules posted   new rules posted Icon_minitimeTue Feb 09, 2010 12:47 pm

sO YOUR GUYS ARE SAYING....I COULD HAVE A VAN WITH NO WALL AND PILE AS MANY BATTERIES AS I CAN STACK IN THAT PIG AND YOU S10 GUYS CANT GO 36 INCHS PAST THE BEDWALL??
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nope we s10 guy can have as many batts as we want now
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edited for stupidity... lol!


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what u talken about mel
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NO NO looks like we can use whole bed now......
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i guess i can't attempt that 1801-3k record anymore Sad
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well mabey we cant use the whole bed



STOCK Division: Competitors may not compete in the stock division if they meet any of the
requirements for a “PRO” competitor as defined previously in these rules.
Alternator, capacitance, battery, voltage, and amplifier limits are defined in “Appendix A” (located
at the end of this book).
Pickups may have equipment (batteries, amps, crossovers, etc.) located in the bed. This
equipment may not protrude above the factory bed rail or more than 36 inches from the front wall
of the factory bed. (Not the bed lip). No Speakers or enclosures are allowed outside the cab. Bed
cuts are not allowed. Factory panels may be removed in the cargo area to facilitate system
installation. Podiums will be allowed.
Modifications: No modifications will be allowed to the interior of the passenger compartment or
exterior of the vehicle in order to facilitate the audio system. The floor, ceiling and dashboard
must be OEM or equivalent to include all fabrics, coverings and carpets. Speakers larger than 8"
and any speaker being used for SPL must be located only in the designated “cargo” areas behind
the “B” pillar. In passenger cars this would be either in the trunk or hatchback area. Enclosures in
the cargo area of all vehicles competing in the Stock division must be installed behind the rear
most passenger seats. Neither the enclosure, nor any device(s) affixed to the enclosure may
protrude above the top of the rear seat back or block the view out of the rear glass. Neither the
enclosure nor any devices affixed to the enclosure may protrude above the bottom of the side or
rear glass panels. No modifications will be allowed to the exterior of the vehicle and all portions of
the system must remain inside the vehicle. Inside the vehicle is defined as inside of the factory
bodylines, roof, and floorboard. Equipment in or on trailers, hitch racks, luggage racks and so on
will not be permitted. No portion of the enclosure or audio system will be permitted to be located
outside of the vehicle to include the bed of a pickup.
Trucks, vans, SUV’s and cargo vehicles competing in the Stock division will be qualified thus:
In full size trucks originally equipped with forward facing rear seats, the cargo area will be defined
as being under or behind the rear seat only. In less than full size trucks or trucks with side facing
rear seats, the area behind the “B” pillars will be considered cargo area. In both or either of these
cases, the enclosure or speaker will not be allowed to protrude forward of the “B” pillars nor may
the enclosure or any devices affixed to it protrude above the bottom of the rear or side glass
panels. This will also apply to any vehicle that is originally manufactured with no rear passenger
seats. In vans and SUV’s with OEM rear seats, the cargo area will be defined as the area behind
the rear most seats. Vans and SUV’s that are originally manufactured without rear seats cannot
compete in the Stock division.
On vehicles with removable or convertible walls or panels, all equipment and all parts of the
enclosure must remain inside the passenger area and may not protrude into or be located in an
open air “bed” or other storage area not covered by the same roof that covers the passenger
area. Jump seats in the cargo area, behind the “B” pillar, and below the lowest window may be
removed.
Exception: In the case of a single cab pickup truck the box, speakers, and amplifiers may extend
forward of the “b” post but must not extend further forward than the rear of the truck seat back.
Seat back must be locked in place and the seat mounting may not be moved to facilitate system
installation.
The head judge at the event will interpret this rule.
Microphone/sensor Placement:
The microphone/sensor can be placed anywhere forward of the “B” pillar in the passenger
compartment with a microphone/sensor globe attached. Special panels or enclosures for globe
placement will not be allowed. The microphone or sensor may not be placed anywhere that is
deemed “hazardous to the equipment” by the head judge.
Other guidelines:
Battery and Alternator may be upgraded, however the battery may not produce more than 14
volts while the engine is not running and the alternator may not produce more than 14.7 volts.
The driver or passenger’s seats may not be relocated from the factory mounting location.
Any construction or speaker placement that may manipulate the SPL meter may be considered
reason to reclassify the vehicle to the Port Wars division or disqualification. This decision will be
at the discretion of the head judge.
Bed cuts will not be allowed in Stock Class.
A center console may be installed provided the console is not designed in such a way as to
manipulate the interior of the vehicle for the purposes of SPL. This will be at the sole discretion of
the head official.
Rear passenger seats may be folded down during testing but may not be removed, nor may any
part of the seat be removed. Rear seat backs may be unbolted and folded over for testing but
may not be removed from the vehicle.
Amplifiers may be attached to the seat backs and folded down during testing. In such cases the
seat must be able to return and lock into the factory position after testing. Factory panels in the
cargo area may be removed to facilitate the system installation.
The audio source (head unit, changer, etc) may be removed from the vehicle during SPL testing.
Wireless remote controls may be used to operate the system from outside the vehicle and their
use is encouraged. Head units or other source units may be located in a “podium” during SPL
testing if they are part of the signal chain. The podium must be designed so the judge can easily
open and inspect the contents of the “podium”. The vehicle emergency brake must be set during
testing.
PRO STOCK
This division uses the Stock rules with the exceptions as noted below.
“PRO” competitors as defined previously in this book will be allowed in Pro Stock.
There are differences in allowances for Alternators, capacitance, batteries, voltage, and
amplifiers. These differences are defined in “Appendix A” (located at the end of this book).
Trunk Division:
Trunk Division will use the “Stock Division” rules with the following exceptions:
Modifications: Speakers larger than 8" and any speaker being used for SPL must be located
only in the designated “Trunk” area behind the rear passenger seats. Enclosures in the Trunk
Division must be installed behind the rear most passenger seats. Neither the enclosure, nor any
device(s) affixed to the enclosure may protrude above the factory rear deck. The rear deck may
not be cut out or modified other than to remove the factory speakers normally located in the rear
deck. Amplifiers must be located in the trunk area. Amplifiers may be attached to the seat back
and lean forward with the seat back during testing but must not interferer with the seat being
placed back into the factory position. Extra batteries may be located in the trunk but cannot be
located inside the passenger compartment.
Vehicles without a “Trunk” will not be allowed in this division. “Hatchback” vehicle are not allowed.
Rear passenger seats may be folded down during testing but may not be removed. Rear seat
backs may be unbolted and folded over for testing but may not be removed from the vehicle.
Amplifiers may be attached to the seat backs and folded down during testing. In such cases the
seat must be able to return and lock into the factory position after testing. Factory panels in the
trunk area may be removed to facilitate the system.
Trunk division is open to consumers and pro’s.
MODIFIED DIVISION:
Alternator, capacitance, battery, voltage, and amplifier limits are defined in “Appendix A” (located
at the end of this book.)
Modifications:
No modifications will be allowed to the interior of the passenger compartment forward of the “B”
pillars. The floor, ceiling and dashboard must be OEM. Speakers larger than 8" and any speaker
being used for SPL must be located only behind the “B” pillars. The speakers and enclosure must
not protrude beyond the leading edge of the “B” pillars. This applies to all vehicles including cargo
vans and SUV’s. No modifications will be allowed to the exterior of the vehicle and all portions of
the system must remain inside the vehicle. Inside the vehicle is defined as inside of the factory
bodylines, roof, and floorboard. Equipment in or on trailers, hitch racks, luggage racks and so on
will not be permitted. No portion of the enclosure or audio system will be permitted to be located
outside of the vehicle,
EXCEPTIONS: Pickup trucks with the rear of the cab and/or front of the bed cut out in order to
allow speaker or box placement in the truck bed are allowed in the modified division. In these
vehicles the floor of the truck bed may be lowered to the level of the floor of the cab provided
such change does not make any portion of the bed lower than the top side of the vehicle frame.
All modifications should approximate the OEM in appearance and function (updated 12/23/2008)
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Im not reading all that shiiit what basically does it say fucker what was the point in posting an old rule? Hell this still says 36" rulle estupid...lol
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Im not reading all that shiiit what basically does it say fucker what was the point in posting an old rule? Hell this still says 36" rulle estupid...lol
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I got 36" for ya right here, come and get it.
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Hahaha Im thinking I'll stay in 1801-up! I like unlimited now affording it is another story! I'm gunna try cactus batts and 12 amps! Maybe then I'll get my 160!
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