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Please post any topics or concerns you would like the comitte to discuss and bring to Ralph's attention. Keep this clean. No bickering or fighting. Just the facts Smile We as a comitee would like to help with the problems the competitors have so please bring them to our attention in a orderly fashion so we as a comitee can do our best to help you the competitors.
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16v batteries in a vehicle not competing in a class where they are allowed period ill be the first to throw it out there.

this would keep speculation out of it all togather
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I will post it for us (the comitee) to discuss right now. Keep them coming guys.
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thanx man
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what are the official banned cd's for sb....
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yes a populated list would be nice
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We tried that one once and got no where with the office on it, but I will bring it up again.
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What about USACI following it's own written rules about amp testing specifcally being tested at the USACI OFFICE and what about enforcing the rules at local and national show's NOT JUST AT FINALS!!!! This way no one get's DQ'd at Finals and we have the same crap all over again!!!! And what about a SB separate from new people???? Or a time limit that youre allowed to stay in a rookie class???? Sorry just things that are bugging me tonight!!!LOL
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ibbangin wrote:
what are the official banned cd's for sb....
As of now it's magic Mike and so loud it hertz.
Any cd that has been burned with a long note is also banned.
At local shows these song are easy recognizible.
To be on the safe side, just let competitors play regular music cd's.
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what about loud as hell????
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sanman wrote:
16v batteries in a vehicle not competing in a class where they are allowed period ill be the first to throw it out there.

this would keep speculation out of it all togather


I second this....
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well ty partner

hey mel we will be in dallas pretty soon
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what about the high lim on socks????
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cool. call me. I live in Fort Worth which is about 45 miles away.
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Eliminating 'hybrid' batts in any consumer class would eliminate possibility for any intentions to be misconstrued.

An idea of what is being considered (if anything) on people inside the cars at finals would be nice. Is this all rumors or is a change a possibility?

Can the committee also looking into Darville's alleged use of the big white van for chimo purposes. Never mind, we don't want to know the truth there.

(I couldn't make a completely serious post, now could I?)
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Hi Bill, the manned or unmanned question....It looks as though the rule will in fact change. During this next weeks events we'll be asking members their opinion on this so we can present it to the rules and ethics board.

The general consensus from my area is overwhelmingly for unmanned.

We are also looking into the design of a fixture that will properly secure the globe while unmanned.
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unmanned will forsure end anymore BS of people being accused of stuff ....
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Soooo sad it has come to this!! No


You guys are that worried that someone is going to cheat you???


I still think the mic monkey is worth their weight in gold cheers

To not allow anybody to feel the power we have unleashed cheers

I guess I'm not worried about "defeat by cheat".
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so let me see if i read this right, you want usaci to test amps in there own office, where they themselves have said they do not have the proper equipment to test and where they can not get accurate or consistant results, thus the reason they dont do it anymore?

justbump'n wrote:
What about USACI following it's own written rules about amp testing specifcally being tested at the USACI OFFICE and what about enforcing the rules at local and national show's NOT JUST AT FINALS!!!! This way no one get's DQ'd at Finals and we have the same crap all over again!!!! And what about a SB separate from new people???? Or a time limit that youre allowed to stay in a rookie class???? Sorry just things that are bugging me tonight!!!LOL
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zacdavis wrote:
Hi Bill, the manned or unmanned question....It looks as though the rule will in fact change. During this next weeks events we'll be asking members their opinion on this so we can present it to the rules and ethics board.

The general consensus from my area is overwhelmingly for unmanned.

We are also looking into the design of a fixture that will properly secure the globe while unmanned.


Twisted Evil If you could show a true and believable argument against a mic monkey then I would love to hear it- problem is that many on the committe have there own agenda and will push for that position- you nor anyone in USACI can present any type of viable argument for changing the way its done- if it aint broke don't fix it. On the other hand if you can think of an argument lets talk about it- and it has to be supported with facts not hearsay- in the end what it comes down to is weather or not a car gains from a mic monkey or two but isn't that why they call it outlaw spl, if you gain more power to you if you don't then don't use a mic monkey at least then we can have a choice. Twisted Evil
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most people who are FOR mic monkeys id imagine have there own agenda also...
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ibbangin wrote:
what about loud as hell????
Also banned.
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kickercrx wrote:
so let me see if i read this right, you want usaci to test amps in there own office, where they themselves have said they do not have the proper equipment to test and where they can not get accurate or consistant results, thus the reason they dont do it anymore?

justbump'n wrote:
What about USACI following it's own written rules about amp testing specifcally being tested at the USACI OFFICE and what about enforcing the rules at local and national show's NOT JUST AT FINALS!!!! This way no one get's DQ'd at Finals and we have the same crap all over again!!!! And what about a SB separate from new people???? Or a time limit that youre allowed to stay in a rookie class???? Sorry just things that are bugging me tonight!!!LOL
Then why have that in the rules if its not going to be done there?????When the DDM3 got protested alot of people thought that it was being done at the office not somewhere else!!!!!!!! If they dont have the equipment cant they purchase it??? I mean we do PAY DUES dont we to be apart of this sport?
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I think the mic monkey issue is getting out of hand for no reason.
In all the runs on the video that was posted, the passenger arms was on the dash or at the glass. USACI made that rule for a reason and we should leave it like that.
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dbracer79 wrote:
I think the mic monkey issue is getting out of hand for no reason.
In all the runs on the video that was posted, the passenger arms was on the dash or at the glass. USACI made that rule for a reason and we should leave it like that.
x2 cheers
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Alan wrote:
unmanned will forsure end anymore BS of people being accused of stuff ....

X1000 cheers but from what Im hearing it wont be up to the committe.

dbracer79 wrote:
I think the mic monkey issue is getting out of hand for no reason.
In all the runs on the video that was posted, the passenger arms was on the dash or at the glass. USACI made that rule for a reason and we should leave it like that.


What people do with there hands before they put them up on the dash!

A competitor should NEVER touch the mic at ANY time IMO.. That leaves NO room for any BS!
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Why not have a USACi rep as a mic monkey?
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Again please keep this post clean. Discuss in another thread. I would like to see this stay as just a place to post what you would like the comitee to discuss. We don't want to have to wade through 14 pages of bs to find out what needs to be discussed.
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Okay, here is the start of World War 3. The idea of a mic monkey entering all the vehicles in a competition is stupid beyond comprehension. I would no more subject someone to that torture than I would ... well, let's not go there. In a 50 car event, each competitor being allowed 2 - 30 second runs, that poor guy has been exposed to that pressure 100 times! We can discuss earmuffs etc., but the botom line, I will not allow any mic judge that's helping me, sit in 50 SPL vehicles ... or even one for that matter.

On the other hand, I will allow a competitor's buddy to sit in the car with him during the run and I do provide hearing protection for both occupants. But if cheating is an issue for the majority of competitors, then I offer that the whole "mic monkey body mass" be done away with altogether. You guys that are really into the "taking up space" thing can bring your inflatable dolls.
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You guys that are really into the "taking up space" thing can bring your inflatable dolls.
now thats what iam talking about!!!!!!!!!! cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers
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