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BBGIC
Big Bald Guy in Charge
Number of posts : 2358
Age : 57
Location : World Wide - 11 Countries
Registration date : 2007-06-22
|  Subject: Treo Test Results  Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:08 pm | |
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sanman
I own this joint!
Number of posts : 12087
Age : 52
Location : shelbyville
Registration date : 2007-06-23
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:11 pm | |
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05gliguy
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Number of posts : 1964
Age : 36
Location : Olive Branch, MS
Registration date : 2007-07-03
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BBGIC
Big Bald Guy in Charge
Number of posts : 2358
Age : 57
Location : World Wide - 11 Countries
Registration date : 2007-06-22
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:16 pm | |
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sanman
I own this joint!
Number of posts : 12087
Age : 52
Location : shelbyville
Registration date : 2007-06-23
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:17 pm | |
| ice i can read and understand that bar graph alot better than the other one that wa slisted before lol | |
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05gliguy
Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1964
Age : 36
Location : Olive Branch, MS
Registration date : 2007-07-03
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:18 pm | |
| - USACI wrote:
- See Below....
I gotcha Ralph  | |
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sanman
I own this joint!
Number of posts : 12087
Age : 52
Location : shelbyville
Registration date : 2007-06-23
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:18 pm | |
| yeah my bad man your link didnt show up before my first post on thbis thread but it is there now | |
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Talonesi
Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 933
Age : 42
Location : Tecumseh,Ks
Registration date : 2007-06-26
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:20 pm | |
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sanman
I own this joint!
Number of posts : 12087
Age : 52
Location : shelbyville
Registration date : 2007-06-23
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:23 pm | |
| now just save them pennies up troy | |
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BBGIC
Big Bald Guy in Charge
Number of posts : 2358
Age : 57
Location : World Wide - 11 Countries
Registration date : 2007-06-22
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:24 pm | |
| The DDM3 is on the way to the lab today. | |
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S.L.A.B.
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Number of posts : 571
Age : 45
Location : Jennings LA.
Registration date : 2008-07-14
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:13 pm | |
| wow is that efficieny number common amoung those amps? I thought they would be better... | |
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PhatSam
Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 628
Age : 42
Location : Topeka,Ks
Registration date : 2007-06-24
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:44 pm | |
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Stingraysevenout
I own this joint!
Number of posts : 6002
Age : 51
Location : College Station Texas
Registration date : 2007-06-23
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:16 pm | |
| Okay glad this is done........ Congrats guys
TO EVERYONE CALLING ME , TEXTING ME, OR PM'ING ME. I DONT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AMP SO LEAVE ME ALONE ABOUT IT... SAM,TROY,TREO IS WHO DID IT NOT ME CALL THEM ASK THEM TEXT THEM PM THEM K THANKS. I DONT USE TREO SO I DONT KNOW NOT ONE DAMN THING ABOUT THE AMP.........
Thanks everyone no maybe i can get some fuckingg work done. | |
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TAMU
Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1548
Location : TEXAS
Registration date : 2007-06-23
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:17 pm | |
| - PhatSam wrote:
- its not a great 12v amp.
Cow poopy,THAT SOUNDS LIKE CLASS AB NUMBERS TO ME 225 AMPS JUST TO PRODUCE 1691 WATTS PLUS 54% EFF. I SMELL A RAT AND BIG TIME Cow poopy. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:18 pm | |
| hey jimbo, are these amps strappable, ohh, and how much do they cost |
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TAMU
Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1548
Location : TEXAS
Registration date : 2007-06-23
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:19 pm | |
| - TAMU wrote:
- PhatSam wrote:
- its not a great 12v amp.
Cow poopy,THAT SOUNDS LIKE CLASS AB NUMBERS TO ME
225 AMPS JUST TO PRODUCE 1691 WATTS PLUS 54% EFF. I SMELL A RAT AND BIG TIME Cow poopy. TTT | |
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Stingraysevenout
I own this joint!
Number of posts : 6002
Age : 51
Location : College Station Texas
Registration date : 2007-06-23
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:21 pm | |
| LOL Chad wish that was the case... But the calls are for other reasons like how it was tested blah and blah... And Dung Pile man i dont know ... But i will tell you it started WORLD WAR ONE..... And ppl are freaking out and for some reason calling me on it.... Helll i have no ideas. | |
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zacdavis
Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 917
Age : 47
Registration date : 2007-06-28
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:35 pm | |
| That test seems to be bogus or the amp is, at first glance anyhow.
The results on page 1 seem to prove it.
We all know it is impossible for an amp to double it's power as the resistance is halved.
As you will see this amplifier not only doubled it's power from 4 to 2 ohms but it did it by more than 100%, which we all know is impossible....unless?.....there is an increase of efficiency within the amplifier somehow, this isn't likely nor is it the case here.
So our next figure to look at is the efficiency, and that decreased as the resistance was halved so how did the amp do this?
This test has some things that should be looked further into.
I'm no expert, but I remember Ralph himself telling us at a members meeting there's no way an amp can literally double it's output because it would have to be 100% efficient, which is impossible, so how did this amp do it and'then some? | |
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zacdavis
Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 917
Age : 47
Registration date : 2007-06-28
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:43 pm | |
| ...of course I'm not saying this amp shouldnt have passed, its looks as though it was well under 600 watts either way ya look at.
I was just trying to figure out whats going on with this amp or test because these figures don't add up. | |
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S.L.A.B.
Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 571
Age : 45
Location : Jennings LA.
Registration date : 2008-07-14
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:46 pm | |
| The power multiplication doesn't look fishy to me I'm just surprised at how inefficient it is. That is ton of wasted energy and a waste of an amp to use in a stock class where your batteries and alternators are limited | |
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Nice
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Number of posts : 2042
Age : 63
Location : New Haven, Ct.
Registration date : 2007-07-13
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:47 pm | |
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zacdavis
Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 917
Age : 47
Registration date : 2007-06-28
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:48 pm | |
| - S.L.A.B. wrote:
- The power multiplication doesn't look fishy to me I'm just surprised at how inefficient it is. That is ton of wasted energy and a waste of an amp to use in a stock class where your batteries and alternators are limited
.  look again and its the output that is important. | |
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Navi
Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3105
Age : 47
Location : Victoria, TX
Registration date : 2007-06-25
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:05 pm | |
| I bet that SOB comes alive on 18v though.
Jimbo did you get my PM? | |
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Team Big'Un
Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1448
Age : 45
Location : The Strip Club
Registration date : 2008-03-05
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:06 pm | |
| - Navi wrote:
- I bet that SOB comes alive on 18v though.
Jimbo did you get my PM? I heard it was a beast at 18V | |
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sanman
I own this joint!
Number of posts : 12087
Age : 52
Location : shelbyville
Registration date : 2007-06-23
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:35 pm | |
| well yes it is a great amp at 18v i tested one not to long ago
17.8v
.5 ohm
dropped to 17.4v
did 1.2 db louder than a 200.1 rated at 500@4ohm did at the same everything.
i did not out a meteror clamp on it though wish iw oudl have lol.
very strong upper voltage amp here. | |
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Moparbass28
Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3541
Age : 49
Location : Wichita, Ks
Registration date : 2007-06-23
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:04 pm | |
| Great to see the results so quickly. Sorta, but still thank you.  They work well on 12 volts to, if that is the one I got to play with once. | |
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PhatSam
Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 628
Age : 42
Location : Topeka,Ks
Registration date : 2007-06-24
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:49 pm | |
| This amp was not designed for 12v. It comes alive on 18v. Trust me I know first hand. This amp is designed by John Henry and has been in testing for the last 3-5yrs. | |
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SQcrewcab
Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 801
Age : 45
Location : Springfield, IL
Registration date : 2007-06-23
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:11 pm | |
| Congrats to TREO and to you sam..
I know JP has put alot of time into these amps.. | |
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aphinney
Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1305
Age : 36
Location : omaha ne
Registration date : 2007-06-23
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:51 pm | |
| these figures are not correct at all...coming from a EE student...but what do i know | |
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sanman
I own this joint!
Number of posts : 12087
Age : 52
Location : shelbyville
Registration date : 2007-06-23
| | Subject: Re: Treo Test Results Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:58 pm | |
| well the amperage draw seems to be little to me thats the only thing i see out the ordinary but then again im not an EE major lol | |
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