Committee.

In an attempt to make this more fair in who you want to represent you I am gonna start a poll for the regions I have stated with those that are interested, If you dont vote DO NOT COMPLAIN. This will give everyone the oppt to throw in there opinion. If you are interested in representing your region send me a pm with name and I will put you in the poll. Polls will be posted friday of this week, you have until then to express interest.

and whats your opinion. 1 person or 2 people per region?

how about every paying member of usac that should be able to voice there issues and opinions due to the faqct they pay there dues every year through membership

I say keep it 2 people per region but make an effort to find two people that might not share the same outlook. For instance dont have two people from the same team for each region or for that matter two people in close vicinity of each other. Gives more of a chance for more people to be heard over a wider area and not so loclaized.

this is a good idea scott i know in the army when someone gets a courtmartial they have a presiding judge and one that doesnt attend court but just reads the facts this way opinions are not involvd in the sentence

i like it

:buffs knuckles on chest:

Good Luck Bruce!

It would be nice to have one SQ and one SPL from each region. Those guys need representation too.

One SQ and one SPL is needed...for reference, look at how the SQ numbers (entries in all classes total) maintained 06-07 at Finals and how many cars are in the works now.

I most definatly agree with matt and John.... And i also agree with a vote to make sure that everyone has a say on who represtents their region..... VOTE IS THE WAY.

Matt_Sibley wrote:

It would be nice to have one SQ and one SPL from each region. Those guys need representation too.

We have no SQ in the west (region 9) well not at any show I have attended.....

Stingraysevenout wrote:

And i also agree with a vote to make sure that everyone has a say on who represtents their region..... VOTE IS THE WAY.

I agree

I agree on the vote, and that we need sq representation. do we need 1 and 1 from each region i dont know, but a mix for sure. Im gettin a lot of suggestions and not a lot of volunteers?!?!

you say west..DMAN...but your location says CO...there are some heavy guys in SQ in CO.

This committee is all fine and dandy but exactly how do you try to get 100% representation from all of UsacIs competitor members?

Just an observation: Currently, from about 2%, or so, who frequent these forums now; probably only a fraction would even join the forum to voice their opinions let alone pick up the phone to call the main office.

DMAN wrote:

Matt_Sibley wrote:

It would be nice to have one SQ and one SPL from each region. Those guys need representation too.

We have no SQ in the west (region 9) well not at any show I have attended.....

Same here in our region. Northeast

MAGNATUDE wrote:

This committee is all fine and dandy but exactly how do you try to get 100% representation from all of UsacIs competitor members?

Just an observation: Currently, from about 2%, or so, who frequent these forums now; probably only a fraction would even join the forum to voice their opinions let alone pick up the phone to call the main office.

That is true. There are some people who are member but don't get on the forum. These are the people who don't know what is going on or show any dedication for this sport.

My concerns are that a committee like this may raise some political and ethical questions on how realistic the demographics would be and the possibility of any of the responses would be skued if used in a polling and/or voting situation.

Also, as Ralph quoted, the committee is formed to better facilitate communications with the members and the reps communicate with members and make themselves available to competitors:

It may be a liability to UsacI if the rep doesn't know what he's talking about or providing misinformation.

I would seriously recommend that anyone appointed as a committee representative learn and know the current UsacI rulebook inside-out like the back of their hand. Be abreast of all current SQ and SPL topics as well as knowing detailed show schedules in their respective zones. As a competitor member, last thing I'd like to hear from a rep is ........" I DON'T KNOW".

I would hate to see this endeavor turn out to be a 'Joke'.

My first questions for the Western Regional Rep are as follows...............



1) Who is the UsacI Sound Quality Director for California and the rest of region 9? I know who the SPL Director is for region 9.

2) Will our SQ Director be active in promoting the SQ side of competition throughout region 9?

3) Will we still be invited to the World Finals even if there were no SQ shows near our homes?

4) Can SQ competitor members receive SQ championship points to go towards World Finals invite if we show up and register at an SPL or CS only event?

5) The Pebble Beach Concours de Elegance, The L.A. International Auto show, Car Audio publications and nearly half of all car audio manufacturers are based in California. Would UsacI consider having a Western headquarters in California as well as keeping the one in AR?

Interesting points Magnatude.
But world finals has to stay in a central area for everyone.
I'm pretty sure that sq points count towards the finals.
That is why a commitee is being formed to oversee those issues.

i'll guarantee #5 is a "no". LOL. no offense intended here...just speaking matter of fact.

This whole thing is still in its infancy, give us a chance to get it off the ground, then lets see what we can do. We will do the best we can, But flooding this committee with 40 members I DO NOT THINK is the answer, then its just to big to manage. Remember, these people are volunteering there time. ANd in all honesty still dont have a lot of people knocking down the door voluntering. 2 per sector at best right now. With the exception of the south.

MAGNATUDE wrote:

My first questions for the Western Regional Rep are as follows...............



1) Who is the UsacI Sound Quality Director for California and the rest of region 9? I know who the SPL Director is for region 9.

2) Will our SQ Director be active in promoting the SQ side of competition throughout region 9?

3) Will we still be invited to the World Finals even if there were no SQ shows near our homes?

4) Can SQ competitor members receive SQ championship points to go towards World Finals invite if we show up and register at an SPL or CS only event?

5) The Pebble Beach Concours de Elegance, The L.A. International Auto show, Car Audio publications and nearly half of all car audio manufacturers are based in California. Would UsacI consider having a Western headquarters in California as well as keeping the one in AR?

Well to answer your first question Mike Jaffe is that Regions Director, There unfortunatly isn't such thing as a SQ Director and SPL Director for each Region...(yes this would be wonderful but with the SQ turnout their is out there its just not feasable.) It is up to that director to have SPL and SQ shows and he mainly does SPL shows.. If you get with him ahead of time im sure he would make a couple SQ shows if compeditors ask for it.

Number 2 again if you ask for it.... Jaffe will make it happen im sure

Number 3 NEVER has anyone been allowed to go to Finals on the SQ side of things without having somesort of points.. Go to one Regional show get a first.... And you get an automatic invite. ( SPL and SQ Representives from each region would be nice and would keep most questions answered) Im fluent with SQ and SPL Rules but that doesn't always make me a good choice either. Bare with us guy at least we are being to get our voices heard its the first step and ppl are already knocking it.

Really almost all of the questions you asked are all questions that we would find the answers for even though you knew them already. I think this is a step in the right direction but we need time to work through some of the kinks.

Thanks for listening. You are all a great bunch of dudes even if you're east of California. haha j/k

Thank you Jimbo , the last paragraph you said is the right answer to a question if you had to answer a No. Never say no to your potential client.

Mind you, I'm not knocking anyone down. I would just like to point stuff out before this committee is finalized because you may have a better alternative especially when people are there to volunteer their limited time to help out Usaci. Thinking out of the box.

I just threw out question #5 for s--ts and giggles.

Bare with us.... I think this is still a great idea once Bruce works through some of the kinks.


And thanks Magnatude for your input and concerns as well, better to try and figure things out early..

if bruce runs this like his team, expect good things

HellRzR wrote:

if bruce runs this like his team, expect good things

^^nuff said...

MAGNATUDE wrote:

My first questions for the Western Regional Rep are as follows...............



1) Who is the UsacI Sound Quality Director for California and the rest of region 9? I know who the SPL Director is for region 9.
For this region they are kind of one and the same. SQ judges would be brought in for an SQ event should one occur.

2) Will our SQ Director be active in promoting the SQ side of competition throughout region 9?
It is hard to promote something that don't really exist in the area. Not saying it don't, but the dealers really dictate whether an SQ event will take place. It just has not in a couple years now in the area.

3) Will we still be invited to the World Finals even if there were no SQ shows near our homes?
Yes and NO. If there are no SQ events near your home you can still go to finals by attending SQ events outside your home area. But if you don't do that ... then NO. In other words it would take a little effort on your part as well.

4) Can SQ competitor members receive SQ championship points to go towards World Finals invite if we show up and register at an SPL or CS only event?
the real answer to that is NO ... but! there was an SPL event located here in AZ last year that ended up becoming an SQ event as well. That competitor earned SQ points for that.

5) The Pebble Beach Concours de Elegance, The L.A. International Auto show, Car Audio publications and nearly half of all car audio manufacturers are based in California. Would UsacI consider having a Western headquarters in California as well as keeping the one in AR?
I am sure you know the answer to this. Look at it like this ... is there a need for ice cream trucks in North Dakota in the winter time? If there is little to no possibility for business in an area why have remote offices there? I bring that up because I know they make ice cream in North Dakota also

See bold lettering for responses.

I have been with USACi for quite some time now. I am a level headed person who believes in fairness. If there is ever a good person to have representing the west it would be myself and Darren. You will be in good hands. We will also have an open line of communication for anyone to contact us about concerns.

jmorri wrote:

HellRzR wrote:

if bruce runs this like his team, expect good things

^^nuff said...

x3
except we actually run Bruce if you didn't know.