Here is the question!!!

Make sure you read this carefully.
Are 16 volt batteries allowed in SB1-4???? And is Usaci going to allow them in 2008?
NOT 16v on the multimeter at the amps!!!!!!!!
As the rule reads now it is ok to have 16v batts as long as the voltage at the amp(s) does not exceed 14.7.

This could get hairy.

Almost a week and no responses.
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i say no because ya could have a switch hiddin and flip on the 16+ volts befor ya burp ... it the same as havin a amp sittin on back seat or in bed of truck with no wires hooked up to it at all but ya must count that amp as power . no 16 volt bat should be alowed in the car even if its not hooked up

The_Rowlands wrote:

i say no because ya could have a switch hiddin and flip on the 16+ volts befor ya burp ... it the same as havin a amp sittin on back seat or in bed of truck with no wires hooked up to it at all but ya must count that amp as power . no 16 volt bat should be alowed in the car even if its not hooked up

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I say no tooo. It should not be in the vehicle.
If a multi tester is on the amp power wires, when the switch flips it will show the voltage gain going in on the amp.

if they keep a voltage meter on it the whole time it will elimate tat problem

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super stock crx wrote:

if they keep a voltage meter on it the whole time it will elimate tat problem

The meter has to be on the amp not the battery

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super stock crx wrote:

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TECH114 wrote:

super stock crx wrote:

if they keep a voltage meter on it the whole time it will elimate tat problem

The meter has to be on the amp not the battery

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shouldnt effect it as long as the amp doesnt see higher than 14.7

i dont think they should be allowed in the vehicle unless its SB5 just my opinion

Exactly. It shouldn't be allowed in the vehicle.

Let's think about this one.

Even if you did run a 16v battery on a stock charging system what would the advantage be. Even at 14.7v you would have nothing more than a dicharged battery. I would rather have the 12v with a 14.5 - 14.7 volt surface charge on it. At least I would have the benifit of the intial over charge.

Just my opinion though.

first off you should be able to keep the multimeter on peak hold like in dbdrag and if it goes over your voltage limit you get dq'd. but i would say its street beat. there shouldnt be 16volt n street beat. how many cars really drive around on 16volt bats very very few prob less that 1%. compaired to real street systems

just my thoughts. i also dont car that pro stock has 16 volt bats i think if it has stock in the name it should be 12volt bats. mod and up could use em cause its modified. oh well more thoughts

i wish they would clarify this just so i can start my build and not have 2 tear down my car at finals

gameoverstreeta wrote:

first off you should be able to keep the multimeter on peak hold like in dbdrag and if it goes over your voltage limit you get dq'd. but i would say its street beat. there shouldnt be 16volt n street beat. how many cars really drive around on 16volt bats very very few prob less that 1%. compaired to real street systems

just my thoughts. i also dont car that pro stock has 16 volt bats i think if it has stock in the name it should be 12volt bats. mod and up could use em cause its modified. oh well more thoughts

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I use the combo batteries for two reasons....
1)I run more that one class wit hmy vehicle
2)They are what I own already

Now as far as a switch....I will take cliam for that one being brought up and I will say it one last time...not only was the vehicle monitored in the lanes with volt meters but I was more than willing to show everyone what I had all they had to do was buck up the cash....I would have loved the money to cover some of the expenses I paid out in amps subs and equipment..and I was visited in the pits while gain matching my amps...and the offical saw nothing odd...and why would anyone gain match at 12v if they where switching to 16 during a run?

My opinion is volt meter on all the amps especially at finals...I wish they would have done it my first run...just to clear things up...take my word for it or dont I really dont care what anyone believes as I know I didnt cheat. I worked way to F'ing hard to cheat to win or take what ever place to get DQ'd and not place at all.

Rules state 14.7 max...as long as it does not go above what is the problem? I know my combo batteries played a song the other night on the 16volt side with the vehilce off and did not go below 15.35.

This is a question that i think goes along with this. I have seen pic's of a competitor running batteries in series from a company that only makes 12v and 16v batteries. How can this be leagal? How would this be any different? Not saying right or wrong Just want to know how it works?

treotruck wrote:
I use the combo batteries for two reasons....
1)I run more that one class wit hmy vehicle
2)They are what I own already

Now as far as a switch....I will take cliam for that one being brought up and I will say it one last time...not only was the vehicle monitored in the lanes with volt meters but I was more than willing to show everyone what I had all they had to do was buck up the cash....I would have loved the money to cover some of the expenses I paid out in amps subs and equipment..and I was visited in the pits while gain matching my amps...and the offical saw nothing odd...and why would anyone gain match at 12v if they where switching to 16 during a run?

My opinion is volt meter on all the amps especially at finals...I wish they would have done it my first run...just to clear things up...take my word for it or dont I really dont care what anyone believes as I know I didnt cheat. I worked way to F'ing hard to cheat to win or take what ever place to get DQ'd and not place at all.

Rules state 14.7 max...as long as it does not go above what is the problem? I know my combo batteries played a song the other night on the 16volt side with the vehilce off and did not go below 15.35.
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then why didnt ur rerun come close to your first score_____

treo truck your first run was not metered and when they metered your rerun u didnt even do a 57

Actaully my first run was metered....by a judge no...but I had a meter on the amps and many people saw the voltage! It was in the open for anyone to see.

Voltage was hard to get back up due to sharing a outlet with 3 other vehicles...and we kept popping breakers and I could not get by voltage up as I charged my batteries individually before they where all put in.

On my rerun I quit the run when I dopped below the 157.3 so if you can do math the average goes to hell....I also burped a 158.2 out of the gate on the rerun my best score ever so if that is not enough proof I cant offer you anymore!

If you doubted it why didnt you buck up the cash? I was more than willing to tear it down.

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if u did a 158.2 out the gate then how can u say that your batts weren't charged if that was your best start ever. And there is no question that your build was legal, nowhere in the rules does it say u cant have a 16 volt batt in the car. so what makes you think anyone would be that stupid to give you money like that. the question is are we going to be able to do the same thing this year with the 16 volt batts, and will they monitor everyones voltage like they should

i saw your voltage on the first run, it was at 13.3 with about 3 seconds to go, i know you had a lot of batts, but they must have been pretty strong to hold 13+ for 30 secs

I had 16 batts...and yes I was impressed with their hold up also...now just to be clear not all where the combos...eleven of them where 12 volt tied to the 12 volt post of the combos.

Greatwhite it was a dead on start with the timer and I only had a top charge as there is a difference. Each battery charged one by one and then installed versus a recharge all together is not near as strong when it was off an on due to the breaker issues.

Now as far as the rules why does the type of battery matter as long as the voltage does not go above 14.7? Meter the vehicle and their should be no issues.