Using an overseas car for stock or mod class

Ok. Say I "acquire" a vehicle from overseas in my team name and get insurance for it. Is it legal to run in stock and mod classes?

Is it legal on the street's of the US?

stright from the rule book

All vehicles must be licensed and be “street legal” as per federal regulations to compete in the Stock, Pro Stock, or Modified divisions. Vehicles that do not comply will be entered and judged in the Super Modified or Port Wars division. USACI will require all of the following OEM equipment to be installed and fully functional at all times while being judged in the Stock and Modified divisions: Headlights, Tail Lights, Speedometer, Emergency Brake, OEM or equivalent automotive seats,OEM Windshield.

It's street legal from the place it came from? Since this is "international" I would think it to be ok?

Is it a Panda from Canada?

And aren't there USACi shows in Canada? (some people know where this is going)

CactusSounds-Geoff wrote:

It's street legal from the place it came from? Since this is "international" I would think it to be ok?

If you can get plates for it and drive it on us roads then it is legal...

Right on...... Points in Canada and then Finals in Omaha... You arsssshoe. hehe Just please inform me in pm's on what class so im not in it.... Takes a sneaky sneaky to come up with that i love it......... (not like ive looked into it or anything , that is just how i would do it.)

If its a stock class. let me know, I want a crack at it.

ok here we go some will beleive me some wont when i was in germany i had a opel corsa gsi its was a fast lil focker, and it was loud and i mean you could tell the differance from my crx i had over there to it at drop in i wanted so badly to bring it backl to the states and well you cant why you ask here it is at the port of embarkation they must see documentation stating the car has been converted these cars dont have have that ability, and they cant meet the safety specs of the us, as where the bmw/mercedes/volkswagon do its an average of 5k to convert the 3k bmw they buy over there and yes they are that cheap.

this car can not be made street legal for the us or i would have had one a long time ago lol i still have people in germany and can get a panda for roughly a grand, but it will sit in st louise at the port forever

Your going about it the wrong way then. Anyways. If there's USACi shows in Canada (which I saw the SPL Reccrds for it) it is legal to use then correct?

That is a good question for the the R&E committee.

I would have to say that if it is registered in a country like canada and is street legal there, just because it comes over to the US it shouldn't be reclassified into supermod.

lol they have differant rules about safety, and the road over there one example i know of is the windshiled they use dont have the safety platic in it we use in the states there no car like the panda in the states to replace the windshiled with to convert it at all

then you got gages
lights
supported driver and passenger doors
bumpers

they have to make a bio for the cars that come from germany to show the changes of the car to even be allowed off the port in st louise

CactusSounds-Geoff wrote:

Your going about it the wrong way then. Anyways. If there's USACi shows in Canada (which I saw the SPL Reccrds for it) it is legal to use then correct?

I guess you didn't see or read closely what Twisted Image image posted about the rules. Below is the most important part of that rule.

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All vehicles must be licensed and be “street legal” as per federal regulations

Now this tells me that a vehicle has to pass US FEDERAL REGULATIONS to be street legal in the US which makes any vehicle that can't pass US federal regulations illegal.

Personally if this is a true World Finals and Competitor A comes from overseas with their car, possibly a panda, why should a competitor in the United States not be allowed to compete with the same vehicle?

The Street Legal part of the rules is intended to keep people from building custom vehicles to use for sound competition. I'd personally like to see something along the lines of "vehicle must be commercially available and must have the following: wipers, headlights, taillights, etc."

As it stands the inspection sticker deal, and several other things are simply impossible to enforce. I think whats fair for one should be fair for another and if a European competitor is allotted the opportunity to come to the U.S. and compete with such vehicle then those of us in the U.S. should have equal opportunity if we are willing to import one of those here.

The B.S. that was started about there being no way to possibly get one over here and to your house is a crock of crap. Its possible, very possible and can be done with the right resources and monetary funds. Whats fair is fair and everyone should have equal opportunity to use the said vehicles.

Thats the way I read the rules as well.

CactusSounds-Geoff wrote:

Ok. Say I "acquire" a vehicle from overseas in my team name and get insurance for it. Is it legal to run in stock and mod classes?

You're best bet would be to bypass the forum as obviously you will see it gets you no where. I would call the office, speak to Ralph, and then write up a formal proposal for submission to the Rules and Ethics Committee. I dont know who is on that committee but they will ultimately make the final decision. You can see my two cents in my previous post though if they count for anything

People talk all this poop about you can import cars over here and get then legally registered, then you see skylines all over the places some even still right hand drive. It can be done.

Oh. I know it can be done (and has). It's fairly simple actually.

i didnt say you couldnt get one to the states i said once imported and it hits the port of embarkation it will not move untill you have ti totally converted to us specs or have a junk title for it where it can not be driven

what about it being a classic car in the states in a yr, then its a collectors item, and no longer meets the criteria.

skylines can can be converted to to us specs ill tell you what you guys that think you have all the answers on this poop and have never bneen out of the states for real wich means on your own without being attached to the nipple still ill post a number for you to call later today then you can really know what you are talking about. ok then it wont be b/s

There's other ways of getting one Jeff you don;t have to ship from Europe directly to the USA. Think outside the box. AS a matter of fact mine isn't sitting in a port anywhere.

sanman wrote:

skylines can can be converted to to us specs ill tell you what you guys that think you have all the answers on this poop and have never bneen out of the states for real wich means on your own without being attached to the nipple still ill post a number for you to call later today then you can really know what you are talking about. ok then it wont be b/s

Just an FYI I wasn't referring to you as the one who started everything about it not being allowed to be imported. Like Geoff said, there are ways.

if a car is and can not be made legal for driving in the states due yo it not meeting the safety requirements then it never will meet them at all i know it can be put in a trailor and brought over but it must receive a us title wich means it has to be coverted still like i said at the port they have federalis there hehe and they will explain this in detail its not jus for the port but should eb the same at every border crossing this is why they ant sit in the tates and you have to go to canada to pick them upi an how long was it that they had to leave after being here 6 months im thinking they have to go byby

Jeff, you got it done... I saw your Panda at Finals. hehe that was some funny shizzzznit... I laughed for like five mins when i saw it..... that was some good humor for sure.

agreed bruce...

sanman wrote:

if a car is and can not be made legal for driving in the states due yo it not meeting the safety requirements then it never will meet them at all i know it can be put in a trailor and brought over but it must receive a us title wich means it has to be coverted still like i said at the port they have federalis there hehe and they will explain this in detail its not jus for the port but should eb the same at every border crossing this is why they ant sit in the tates and you have to go to canada to pick them upi an how long was it that they had to leave after being here 6 months im thinking they have to go byby

So if a Canadian or Mexican competitor had a Panda that was legal in their own country were to compete in USACi and get points for Finals and show up. They wouldn't be able to compete in the class they chose?

mexico has there own finals, and that's up to the commitee ifthey allow it but if it is not road worthy per the rules for the us based usac the answer is no at this time now if you would stop trying to push the grey area for yourself on this and understand the rules as they read you would know this by now hello chipolte posted them

That rule is very broad and vague. Like I said, there are other countries that are able to compete with such a vehicle. It only makes sense that a US competitor should be able to also.