ive got two apx 818 motors. one is still built into a working 15, but its just a cobbed up woofer i built from some misc parts to get some points. these are what ive been using in my civic. the working one is a dual 1 . i can build these up into 10s 12s 15s or whatever beside 18s unless you want to pay for frames. id like 300 for just the motors or offers. and if you want them built up PM or text or give me a call. and i have plenty of pics.