USACI Manufacturer Class: (New for 2010)

Did any one hear about this?
What would you all say if CS had it's own class?
We would have 1 Mono amp and 2 10" Subs.
All at a total package cost under $1400?

Would any one be interested?

You should throw a couple of batteries in as an option

Good idea lol

lol... I only have the CS 9000 and that is too big for that class.
The package would be
1 PF 300.1 or a new mono baby.
2 PF 10"

so 2 compete in this class u have 2 have cactus?

How it works: Brand A Audio selects an amplifier and two subs to announce as the
"Competition SKU" for the program. USACI will create the "Brand A Competition Class" using our
basic and fun Street Beet Class 1 rules. A competitor must be running the appropriate Brand A
products in order to enter the class. The competitor must also have a "Team Brand A logo on the
back glass.

At local shows:
The Brand A class will be run under the same tent as the other
classes. The class will be called so all in it can run at the same time. An
announcement will be made "Lanes Closed - Only Brand A Competitors
may line up". We will make sure all the Brand A cars run together
and everyone watching and competing in other classes will be on the
sidelines watching the Brand A Team Cars go at it. The class
winners will be listed each week on the USACI Web site along with the
regular event results so Brand A competitors can track their points.

At Regional and Finals
The Brand A classes will be run the same as local shows
EXCEPT they will have their own private land, tent, and competition
meter. Team Brand A members will get exclusive treatment and all
attendees; will be directed to the Brand A tent while those lanes are
judging. At the awards ceremony, before any one else gets their awards,
the Team Brand A awards will be given out. At World Finals the top two
competitors will share the $1000 prize pot ($600 1st and $400 2nd). At
every event the awards for Brand A class will be equal to awards for any
other class and will display the Brand A logo on the awards.

Sounds cool, its diffrent that's for sure. Might be a good change up for the hobbie.

Not so sure about placing Brand A classes above everyone else in awards though and shutting down the show to bring them all to the tent at once, makes it seem a little cocky is all but overall the idea is good. I could be taking that the wrong way just the way I read into it. Sounds like someone is thinking outside the box though!![/img]

i like it

The idea is to make a 100% level playing field. To get some more manufacturer involvment in the competitions, bring in a little prize money for the competitors, and then reward the manufacturer for his/her support by making them front and center at the show.

This same manufacturer commits to a booth at finals to support his competition class. Big cardboard check, etc. Newsworthy recognition for the manufacturer and the competitors.

So for about $1500 you or your customers can compete with others with IDENTICAL equipment. Now the best build wins, and gets credit for it!.

If we get behind the project and get more peopel involved it could be great for competition.

I am ready to go.
If I get a good feed back.

Cactus,
Since you'll be the biggest beneficiary of a class like this...What is it you would be willing to offer USACi and or it's competitors for choosing you're product for our manufacturer's class?

Paying for a booth?, paying the competitors prize money?, what will you do for them besides selling them your product?

sounds like a sponsorship class only

could be kewl for the newer guys...I like it.

In my opinion,
I think this class should be open to wattage, open to sub quantity, open to nearly everything including manufacturers.
Ideally, we would have multiple manufacturers putting together product packages for a given class that is based on the actual cost a competitor pays.
We've discussed this quite few times over the years. One I liked best was a division that included a couple different classes. In fact, you may remember me pushing the "MSRP" class pretty hard a few years back haha.
$0-500
$500-1000
$1001+
That ended up being kind of hard to figure out considering not many companies actually use MSRP pricing anymore and with the internet selling products for near and under dealer costs it'd be pretty hard to police.....with that considered, it would be nice to have a few manufacturers offer a particular package for a specific class. Instead of wattage, it would go like this....

Say USACi decided to offer this manufacturer class, would it be best if only one company's products are allowed in the class?, or would it be better if any company could offer their equipment for this class.
In other words, as it is now, lets say Cactus is the provider for this class, and the package costs $1400....what if I'm an owner of a company and I want to offer my product package that will sell for $1400 because ours is louder or its a better value or bla bla bla.....This would invoke some competition between manufacturers. Who's sells the most bang for your buck?

IDK, just a few things to think about

Obviously this approach kindof voids thee entire reason for a class like this, which is to see who is thee best builder out there, and the only way to find that out is by offering ONE specific brand, make, and model package, so everybody would have to use thee exact same equipment.....hmmmmm!!!?

That leads me to an idea,
What if there were two basic classes for this manufacturer division, one that's open to all manu's who offer a specific package, (pre-qualified and approved by USACi) and the one that is just one company/one specific package.
Heres what I mean.
Class A- $1000(or whatever dollar amount) open to any company that offers a system at this price
Class B- specific system from one exclusive brand

Each year, the battle between companies with their 1000 dollar systems, to have theirs come out on top. The reward for and motivation for them would be simply this....if a competitor wins with their package at finals...they get the exclusive class b for the following year.
It would be a re-occurring class that would satisfy all.

Lets say kicker, cactus, mmats, dd, and fusion, all competed in Class A in 2010, and at finals, the Cactus system won, then Class B in 2011 would be a class all on its own with no other companies other than Cactus, a package that would have to be bought from Cactus....guaranteeing sales for them

again, jus brain-stormin here, thoughts?

man i said this like 6 years ago!! i think its kool...

Alan wrote:

man i said this like 6 years ago!! i think its kool...

we all did lol

i love it bro 1400 bucks for a 3k system that would be great that is monely i think even i would pay for. an i think this would pull in wayyyy more manufactures. so from zac's post the first year would just bee class a an then 2011 would be class a an class b.
i like the idea i really do an also from what i have read its streetbeat rules an no burpin so that would be uber awesome for me anyway.
i say go with it big guy might be fun wish you had of came up with it when ya boi had his tax money lol cause all i got now is enough to be my damn alt lol.

zacdavis wrote:

In my opinion,
I think this class should be open to wattage, open to sub quantity, open to nearly everything including manufacturers.
Ideally, we would have multiple manufacturers putting together product packages for a given class that is based on the actual cost a competitor pays.
We've discussed this quite few times over the years. One I liked best was a division that included a couple different classes. In fact, you may remember me pushing the "MSRP" class pretty hard a few years back haha.
$0-500
$500-1000
$1001+
That ended up being kind of hard to figure out considering not many companies actually use MSRP pricing anymore and with the internet selling products for near and under dealer costs it'd be pretty hard to police.....with that considered, it would be nice to have a few manufacturers offer a particular package for a specific class. Instead of wattage, it would go like this....

Say USACi decided to offer this manufacturer class, would it be best if only one company's products are allowed in the class?, or would it be better if any company could offer their equipment for this class.
In other words, as it is now, lets say Cactus is the provider for this class, and the package costs $1400....what if I'm an owner of a company and I want to offer my product package that will sell for $1400 because ours is louder or its a better value or bla bla bla.....This would invoke some competition between manufacturers. Who's sells the most bang for your buck?

IDK, just a few things to think about

Obviously this approach kindof voids thee entire reason for a class like this, which is to see who is thee best builder out there, and the only way to find that out is by offering ONE specific brand, make, and model package, so everybody would have to use thee exact same equipment.....hmmmmm!!!?

That leads me to an idea,
What if there were two basic classes for this manufacturer division, one that's open to all manu's who offer a specific package, (pre-qualified and approved by USACi) and the one that is just one company/one specific package.
Heres what I mean.
Class A- $1000(or whatever dollar amount) open to any company that offers a system at this price
Class B- specific system from one exclusive brand

Each year, the battle between companies with their 1000 dollar systems, to have theirs come out on top. The reward for and motivation for them would be simply this....if a competitor wins with their package at finals...they get the exclusive class b for the following year.
It would be a re-occurring class that would satisfy all.

Lets say kicker, cactus, mmats, dd, and fusion, all competed in Class A in 2010, and at finals, the Cactus system won, then Class B in 2011 would be a class all on its own with no other companies other than Cactus, a package that would have to be bought from Cactus....guaranteeing sales for them

again, jus brain-stormin here, thoughts?

You got some good ideas but, I did not come up with the idea.

Also it is not realy cheap for me. lol....

There will be 3 to max 6 comp. that can do this class.
CS will be part of it if I can build a nice Team.

[quote="Cactus Sounds"]

zacdavis wrote:

You got some good ideas but, I did not come up with the idea.

Also it is not realy cheap for me. lol....

Well then who did so they can bring some input to this topic as well?

im toying with the idea

lol.. its was USACi, it's self.
I find it is a good idea and I would like to see a good Team backing Team CS.

christoph you need to come to finals this year man so youcan renew my membershp for me

sanman wrote:

christoph you need to come to finals this year man so youcan renew my membershp for me

if this is really ur last year just take the cash

zacdavis wrote:

Cactus,
Since you'll be the biggest beneficiary of a class like this...What is it you would be willing to offer USACi and or it's competitors for choosing you're product for our manufacturer's class?

Paying for a booth?, paying the competitors prize money?, what will you do for them besides selling them your product?

Cactus would pay USACI a base fee for the program. It includes $1000 prize money to the class at finals and a finals booth.

1. Competitors get prize money from Cactus
2. USACI seels a finals booth to Cactus
3. Competitors get a class where build is 100% of the deciding factor.
4. Competitors only have to spend a minimal amount to be in thsi class.


This idea was sent out by USACI to garner more industry support. We have three manufacturers (no more than that allowed) can participate.

I like the idea of 3 manufactures.. that pretty good there.

well aaron and i brainstormed some ideas.....

instead of using msrp or $$$$$ (the reason i say get away from $$$ is because too many variables, one competitor could get it cheaper then another,or could buy used)

get the mfg to put together a package of 2 12s and one amp

using a 1 OHM rating of the amp. and using the rms of the woofers to be equivelent to the amp. and hell this class you could start using the clamps in this class.

only 1 impedence can be used, 1 ohm.

use stock 0-600 rules. below the window line 12v etc etc

mfgs buy a booth at finals and maybe even regionals.

USACi must approve all packages for the class.

and it would be a great tool for mfgs to push through its car .audio retail shops. the shops can tell locals about the class and what equipment quilifies so it can pull in new competitors.

id say get 3-5 mfgs in this class make it interesting. and get 3-5 booths at finals. this can get locals,vets and mfgs all interested again

maybe mfgs like..but not limited too

rockford fosgate
memphis
cactus sounds
kicker
ascedantaudio
mtx
fusion
sundown
etc...

Hunter EDIT.. 2 -10"s not 12"s
and they have specified SB1 rules, so that would be ok also.

Make it where when some one new to the world of USACI that purchases this "package" from a retailer gets a free pass to finals ?

The cheaper, the better, Even if it was 1 amp and 1 10" ?

no i said 2 12s because 12s are more common then 10s

I SELL MORE TENS THAN 12'S.....