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SBFRK
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PostSubject: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2009 1:11 pm

Is there any negative effects for resin inside box? Is it possible for a box sometimes to be louder without it?
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2009 1:15 pm

yes and yes lol

it helps some box's due to the fact you sand it down many times after resin, then resin again then sand then resin then sand. then by the time your done airflow is alot better in the box due to it being as slick as glass.
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2009 1:17 pm

Thanks Sanman, I assume the only way to find out is to test it
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2009 1:23 pm

if you have never done it before a couple of tips is to make sure you mix in enough hardner so it hardens all the way but not to much that it hardens to fast(i think this could cause it to crack) and wear gloves.... latex gloves...
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2009 1:58 pm

has worked for me in the past. trial and error thats the way just as jeff said.
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 pm

the biggested reason resin works...is because wood is VERY pourous. so in this resin or something else we found to be better, all it does is seals up the box...chris used to work for a counter top manufactor back in the day and they used a huge vac to suck thru 5 pieces of mdf....so this shows how pourous it really is...smoothness also helps...but there are a few things that resin will hurt ya...has to do with imp rise..but thats for another day
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2009 3:11 pm

It is easier to resin one side at a time then all of it, sand, resin, sand, resin, sand, resin, sand ...

I get a perfect glass finish every time!
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2009 8:08 pm

never really done it but sanding an resining over an over does help, kinda like painting cars. if you want a smooth like finish you have to put in the work lol.
oh an foam brushes or rollers, i prefer rollers cause its faster than the brushes but you be the judge of what you wanna use.
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2009 8:09 pm

oh an make sure its a sunny day an hot, it cures faster an harder when its hot.
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeFri Apr 24, 2009 8:11 pm

sanman wrote:
yes and yes lol

it helps some box's due to the fact you sand it down many times after resin, then resin again then sand then resin then sand. then by the time your done airflow is alot better in the box due to it being as slick as glass.


Or just use better resin like what they use in granite tops. 1 layer and its a smooooooth as a baby's butt!
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeSat Apr 25, 2009 9:18 am

Greg McCool wrote:
sanman wrote:
yes and yes lol

it helps some box's due to the fact you sand it down many times after resin, then resin again then sand then resin then sand. then by the time your done airflow is alot better in the box due to it being as slick as glass.


Or just use better resin like what they use in granite tops. 1 layer and its a smooooooth as a baby's butt!

How do you know how smooth a baby's butt is?
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeMon Apr 27, 2009 7:40 am

F it- just use Shurtape inside if all your lookinf for is smoothness.
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeMon Apr 27, 2009 9:01 am

A 2 part epoxy works well also. turn the finished box to each side to be done. make the mixture -- pour the mixture on the surface it will self level. Once dried it is just like glass. turn box and repeat process. mix enough to cover each side atleast 1/8th inch thick. no sanding .
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeMon Apr 27, 2009 11:25 am

Greg McCool wrote:
sanman wrote:
yes and yes lol

it helps some box's due to the fact you sand it down many times after resin, then resin again then sand then resin then sand. then by the time your done airflow is alot better in the box due to it being as slick as glass.


Or just use better resin like what they use in granite tops. 1 layer and its a smooooooth as a baby's butt!
yeah 90% of people use the stuff from home depot.. we used to get marine stuff in 5 gallon buckets.. much better quality.. and it also dont dry with that "film" on it ...
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeMon Apr 27, 2009 11:49 am

How bout some names of these products ? Would like to knoow some for future refrence if possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeMon Apr 27, 2009 2:39 pm

I couldnt tell you off hand, i just used to go to the boat shop and he would pump out 5 gallons into a bucket.. estes has got some before too, he might of caught the name.
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeTue Apr 28, 2009 8:14 am

Sherwin Williams has the 2-part epoxy. They also have swimming pool paint that is also a 2 part epoxy. The first I stated is clear and has to be done 1 side at a time because you pour it and it self levels. The 2nd ( swimming pool paint) you can brush a couple of coat's on it. (24 hours between coats). u want to kinda scuff up the surface a little first. p.s throw away the brush afterwards--not worth cleaning -lol
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeTue Apr 28, 2009 8:22 am

Moparbass28 wrote:
How bout some names of these products ? Would like to knoow some for future refrence if possible.

Resin
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeTue Apr 28, 2009 8:28 am

Alan wrote:
I couldnt tell you off hand, i just used to go to the boat shop and he would pump out 5 gallons into a bucket.. estes has got some before too, he might of caught the name.

I called a counter shop and talked to them... They sent me to a place in town that has resin that cure at different times. I found that for what we do it don't matter so I always get the pore offs from them. Its like $40 for 5 gallons but you have to get the hardener that only comes in a 1 gallon size... all around great stuff wayyyy batter than Home Depot stuff
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeTue Apr 28, 2009 9:24 am

I use the stuff from Select Products. They also have the MEKP dispencers ( gives a perfect mix every time, great for when mixing a lot, & keep things consistant).

I also sometimes mix bondo with resin to help with build properties... self leveling also....hit with finer sand paper, high build primer, paint, clear coat wet sand.

I had 1 box that didn't get louder, but it didn't get quieter...just changed my note a little. It was a wall in an s-10 blazer for 4 12's, it did better when allowed to flex, than when I braced it all up. the resin & paint just changed how it flexed. Other than that anomally, everything has gotten louder...just some more than others...some a .1 others quite a bit
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeTue Apr 28, 2009 1:09 pm

just spit on it
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeWed Sep 16, 2009 10:33 pm

so if you dont put enough hardner how long does it take this crizap to drizy
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeWed Sep 16, 2009 11:44 pm

Drying time also depends on temperature..
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeThu Sep 17, 2009 12:56 am

In honesty in testing, mdf with resin WAS NEVER louder then a Birch box....never tried resin in the birch boxes either.
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 19, 2009 9:59 am

The resin you get at a boat shop is tooling resin which is easier to work with build cool stuff you know the corvette, easier to sand like butter biatches, you can also get the regular resin which takes foever to dry but we here at the h town mafia shop use tooling resin for all purposes
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 19, 2009 1:34 pm

US Composites B-440 resin.
Nice and thin...pours and levels w/ ease.
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeSun Sep 20, 2009 5:58 pm

names for the stuff I coat the inside of boxes with?

mangoop
nutjuice
mikejaffe
facepaint
gaggin cream
suck stopper
asstroglide
penisvenom
peckerpuke
ball snot
clam chowder
hand cream

ehh...I am getting nautious, I gotta stop.
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeSun Sep 20, 2009 9:38 pm

basspro wrote:

asstroglide


For use only in super port wars.
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeMon Sep 21, 2009 4:40 pm

i just pour it in there and let pool up on each side and it doesn't seem to need sanding... it's always helped me...
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PostSubject: Re: Resin inside box question?   Resin inside box question? Icon_minitimeMon Sep 21, 2009 6:45 pm

i just use sauce from my pizza. seems to work for me..
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