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mschwitz Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1125 Age : 45 Registration date : 2007-06-26
| Subject: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:34 am | |
| As it says. Show turn outs are way down. The old big boys are still around. What can be done to get the new guys into Usaci again? I know this has been brought up before, but seriously, we need to do something to get new competitors or this will die out in a few years. Promoters aren't going to keep doing shows with the turnouts we have been getting the last two years. What can Usaci do or what as competitors can we do to get new blood in the sport? | |
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Skip01 Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 2099 Location : Marrero, LA Registration date : 2007-07-02
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:58 am | |
| Gear more to daily drivers, 90% of new competitors are not gonna have a designated burp car to compete with. Its gonna be the car they ride around in everyday | |
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Skip01 Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 2099 Location : Marrero, LA Registration date : 2007-07-02
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:01 pm | |
| Gear more to daily drivers, 90% of new competitors are not gonna have a designated burp car to compete with. Its gonna be the car they ride around in everyday | |
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Magoo Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1022 Age : 45 Location : atlantic iowa Registration date : 2008-07-15
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:10 pm | |
| This may upset even my own teammates but I think crxs need their own class. I think rules need 2 b looked at and adjusted n some areas. Prizes need along with trophies equipment gift certificates etc. I've said it b4 but trophies need 2 b unique rings etc. Lastly shows world finals etc need 2 b promoted world finals should have ads on tv radio bilboards etc just my 2cents promote pruzes rules and a crx only class with no crx allowd in other classes | |
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ibbangin Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1906 Age : 37 Location : tyler,texas Registration date : 2007-07-13
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:16 pm | |
| take more consideration how changes affects competitors, without us there is nothing.... | |
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dbracer79 Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1086 Age : 47 Location : Capital of the world. Registration date : 2007-06-28
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:18 pm | |
| Give out gas cards instead of trophies. | |
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Alan Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3897 Age : 44 Location : Watson Louisiana Registration date : 2008-02-05
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:41 pm | |
| i dont think you will ever fix what scares new guys from coming in.. most people you talk to are like " man i cant win im not going to do that" the way i bring new guys in is help them out..boost there confedence..ive invited groups of 4-5 kids at time to come to shows telling them i would be there to help them out and it would be kool.. lol im not anyone ..but you know what i mean..you can change the classes all you want.. but people who want to win will dominate..and discurage new guys..the only thing i would say..is maybe maybe a local only class.. let the person win..maybe 4 shows? then bump them to the "national level classes" some will prolly be scared to bump up..others will look forward and feel good to have done well enough to get a bump.. just my opinion... | |
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djman37 Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 456 Age : 57 Location : Dallas, TX Registration date : 2007-06-25
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:04 pm | |
| - dbracer79 wrote:
- Give out gas cards instead of trophies.
bing ,bing, bing. | |
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Alan Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3897 Age : 44 Location : Watson Louisiana Registration date : 2008-02-05
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:09 pm | |
| usac builds ther own trophies.. what do you guys want a gas card for 3 bucks?? | |
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HellRzR Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 800 Age : 50 Location : Leavenworth, Ks Registration date : 2007-06-30
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:17 pm | |
| - Magoo wrote:
- This may upset even my own teammates but I think crxs need their own class. I think rules need 2 b looked at and adjusted n some areas. a crx only class with no crx allowd in other classes
this will not solve anything, next you will want to do the same for s10s. ppl will find other vehicles to dominate with so banning crxs from classes not a solution. like asked for before get a trunk class would be a good start | |
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supadave Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3745 Age : 42 Location : tupelo mississippi Registration date : 2008-02-28
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:20 pm | |
| i would say lower the running fee, i know at one show we had a new guy come up and it as a dp show an u all know that dp shows go for like 35 for non members, well i don't know too many cats around my way that will pay that much just to roll up and play a 30 sec note then maybe just maybe get a win or gettin beatin by some one who has been doing this for quite sometime. i am not saying drop it to like 10 bucks but i would say at least some, don't have a figure in my head but that would be my guess, another case i had a guy i built a box for and he was pretty loud for about 500 watts and i tried to convince him to come out and run with us sometimes when i told him about the entry fee he told me "shit i could put that money in my gas tank" i mean there goes another competitor, so forget the classes maybe do an newcomer class but lower the entry fee's
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Alan Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3897 Age : 44 Location : Watson Louisiana Registration date : 2008-02-05
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:33 pm | |
| ive always thought that from the begining .. | |
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rd s10 Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 2411 Age : 38 Location : loc Registration date : 2008-06-17
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:07 pm | |
| just offer local class for da show only do local trunk local stock local mod | |
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aphinney Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1305 Age : 36 Location : omaha ne Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:29 pm | |
| well..combine stock and pro...make it superstock as it was before with 16v ....this will help two things....LOTS more competition in the classes that the season vets are in..this will give 5 to 10 guys in each class that are very close to eachother instead of 3 like it has been last few years...now will give u local classes and it will no cost usaci anything more...trunk class will be HUGE...and get local classes like street beat...go to a single show and u get an invite...and keep rules to a minimum...how great would it be to get 100 or more greenhand spl noobs at finals to see how great it is and for them to want more and more for them to then spend more money in their local store to get up to the level that us season vets are...
hopefully yall can take the pos. from all of the post and mix em all up and make something great... | |
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TAMU Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1548 Location : TEXAS Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:28 pm | |
| i will answer all of this,START GIVING OUT MONEY.NUFF SAID END OF STORY. | |
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Navi Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3105 Age : 47 Location : Victoria, TX Registration date : 2007-06-25
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:52 pm | |
| ^ aint nevah gonna happen ^ | |
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mschwitz Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1125 Age : 45 Registration date : 2007-06-26
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:23 pm | |
| I think maybe a combination of a lower fee "local" class to get new guys in. "Local" is up to the head judges decision. We can all walk around a show and know who is a big player, someone who has a good idea of what's going on, and the clueless new guy with two sony subs and a prefab box. Give out smaller trophies, charge less and like 4-5 firsts and then they move up. (Not sure on this though. Depends if they are getting more into it or something. Maybe $10 to $15 entry fee. It would possibly make usaci more money because more people will be in the classes and classes would be closer and rerun $ would go up as the guy with 136.6 tries to change something to catch his buddy at 137.1. You know like it used to be. Yes they will have small scores but they don't care as long as they are close. Our last show we had three locals show up and run super mod because no one was in it and could run against each other. One guy got 140 at some point in the day and was so excited. They might see the bigger trophies that the real classes offer and decide to move up. No points, no finals. | |
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Magoo Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1022 Age : 45 Location : atlantic iowa Registration date : 2008-07-15
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:50 pm | |
| I agree with a lot of what is said but I like the idea of local classea being a big piece of the shows even finals but us guys that have been around 4ever would need 2 help them we r the promoters we give them something 2 work 4 and I'm not appose 2 them gettin big trophies either but usaci needs 2 controle it make it manditory 2 offer local at all shows. I do understand about the crx only class but 4real that's the Easiest car 2 get loud unless u do ur homework lol | |
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scionsoloxb Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 4832 Location : missouri Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:52 pm | |
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TAMU Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1548 Location : TEXAS Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:55 pm | |
| - TAMU wrote:
- i will answer all of this,START GIVING OUT MONEY.NUFF SAID END OF STORY.
ttt | |
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aphinney Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1305 Age : 36 Location : omaha ne Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:41 pm | |
| yea....crx's are easy to get loud...yep your right ...ok ralph...lets use all of this and lets get this ball a rolling | |
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sanman I own this joint!
Number of posts : 12087 Age : 52 Location : shelbyville Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:53 pm | |
| well attendance is down for 2 reasons i think.
1. The price of gas is killing peoples spirits of competing.
2. Rule changes is always one thing I have always heard people bitching about, and when its forced upon them and not asked what we think as competitors sux pretty badly.
2 things I hear at almost every show,and i travel alot to shows not just in 1 area! | |
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KC_LOUD&CLEAR Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 909 Age : 64 Location : THE LAND OF OZ! Dear Auntie em hate you, hate kansas, took the freakin dog! Dorthy! Registration date : 2007-06-25
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:53 pm | |
| make a class that clamps and measures the voltage and use a formula to get the score and level the playing field. it is working in another organization. and its fair for everyone even the big guys can take a butt kickin. Ive seen it work | |
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8675309 Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1421 Age : 52 Location : TN Registration date : 2007-06-24
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:59 pm | |
| lol.... I know a certain someone is feelin mighty good about now. | |
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Alan Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3897 Age : 44 Location : Watson Louisiana Registration date : 2008-02-05
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:17 pm | |
| - Alan wrote:
- i dont think you will ever fix what scares new guys from coming in.. most people you talk to are like " man i cant win im not going to do that" the way i bring new guys in is help them out..boost there confedence..ive invited groups of 4-5 kids at time to come to shows telling them i would be there to help them out and it would be kool.. lol im not anyone ..but you know what i mean..you can change the classes all you want.. but people who want to win will dominate..and discurage new guys..the only thing i would say..is maybe maybe a local only class.. let the person win..maybe 4 shows? then bump them to the "national level classes" some will prolly be scared to bump up..others will look forward and feel good to have done well enough to get a bump.. just my opinion...
like i said.. | |
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The_Rowlands I own this joint!
Number of posts : 7398 Age : 57 Location : MIDWEST Registration date : 2007-08-08
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:21 pm | |
| free shows for the first year for new comers ...to get them hooked in the sport then start charging...... | |
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Alan Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3897 Age : 44 Location : Watson Louisiana Registration date : 2008-02-05
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:25 pm | |
| i think it should be less thant 25-25 bucks.. but not free...they just need a place to be ..knowing they wont run against people whoknow wtf they are doing... but they also need to know the reward is not the same and being on that level..if they are winning cash of big trophies like the big classes ..whats to look forward to besides getting beat by a guy who has 5yrs of tunning in his crx or van which ever? ...there also need to not be a finals for this class...not state records...no nothing that anyone would care to drop down and sandbag in... | |
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STREETBEATZ19 Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1333 Age : 41 Location : Omaha (area) Nebraska Registration date : 2008-08-07
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:59 pm | |
| plain and simple trunk class dont need crx class... TRUNK CLASS | |
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The_Rowlands I own this joint!
Number of posts : 7398 Age : 57 Location : MIDWEST Registration date : 2007-08-08
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:03 pm | |
| one thing we do at our shop for our shows is we pay half of all local competitors . it seams to work as i bet we had at least 30 locals at our last show and atlantic is a very small town. i think there was around 20 in local trunk so we had to add a few more classes so the top 15 or so in locals would trophy..''''swat also has a free beat off which i think helps a lot to bring in new blood''''''....i was thinking about doing this in atlantic also to get sales up and also to get new kids into the sport. | |
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STREETBEATZ19 Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1333 Age : 41 Location : Omaha (area) Nebraska Registration date : 2008-08-07
| Subject: Re: What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:06 pm | |
| amen to you for doing all that you do.. the cheaper shows do help freakin big time.... hey hey free show..im there.. all day well my car might be there..lmao | |
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