2012 rules

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thats right there up learn them lovem them work with them and you will be ok

c'mon man its 2012 and we are still dealing with rules lol.

Looks like the value of all my stock panels just went up ten fold. Anybody wanna buy stock panels? Lol.

Steel plate? No problem. Missing a 24 year old panel? Fail.

Lmao.

super stock just got full lol

Random thought of the day, we bring this stuff up year after year and it doesn't get fixed, or rarely even answered on the forum. Do they even care? As long as they are still getting our money maybe not.

I know USACi isn't as big as it used to be, cuts have been made here and there, the way business is conducted is different, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. One example is 10 years ago they used to drive the big rig and hual the huge trailer all over, but then again gas/diesel was $1.25-1.75 a gallon, so obviously that change was smart. But you'd think USACi being a full time job/business venture that stuff like updates would get done more often.

I know they have other stuff to do as well, like fight fires etc, but sometimes I wonder what they are actually doing.


Here's another thought, since pretty much everyone on staff at the home office is also on the volunteer FD, who fights the fire if there's one on Finals weekend?

I think they see us who post as "complainers" and say "you can't please everyone" without thinking about the fact there are TONS of other people on the way out or already gone who don't give a crap to post or simply just don't come on the forum, who actually feel the same way and are burned out after less than a year of competition ... some don't even get to make it to the real eye opener at finals

I think you're absolutely right, Alan. Guys who've been around a while are seen as "grumpy and nothing is ever good enough." New guys are "whiners who want the rules tailored to them." And everybody else "doesn't know WTF they're talking about."

The panel thing isn't really that big of a deal at all. Other than mini trucks aren't being held to the same standard. Makes total sense to require stock panels to be in "stock" class.

Also, seems like there would have been a post or something about rule changes. I mean, I appreciate that the changes are buried in the rules somewhere, but if it were me, I'd highlight any changes that have been made every year instead of just assuming people are going to re-read the rules every other week looking to see if they're still the same. I mean, a member of the R&E committee wasn't even aware of this particular change.

Makes me wonder what else has been changed that we don't know about. And I don't care enough to read the entire rule book again to see. Guess I'll just get moved to another class if and when I show up.

I still don't know about this CRX panel change but am working on it to find out what is going on with it. I will let you know when I find something out :/

I try to keep you all informed as much as I can

Beat the living shiiiiiiiiiiit out of that dead horse...

I wrote the rules and ethics commity in Febuary this year a was told all panels in a CRX need to be installed. I went down to padre and was beat bad while the person who beat me did not have his panels in his ride. I lost 1st and a ring. How was this fair? oh well, guess thats what I get for following the rule that no one police's. Thanks.

Mel you did what youwere told unfortunately this or isnt built on contunuity its based on individuals that run shows and dont know what the f@*ck is going on.

ahhhh im loving retirement

STOCK Division: Competitors may not compete in the stock division if they meet any of the
requirements for a “PRO” competitor as defined previously in these rules.
Alternator, capacitance, battery, voltage, and amplifier limits are defined in “Appendix A” (located at the
end of this book).
Pickups may have equipment (batteries, amps, crossovers, etc.) located in the bed. This equipment may
not protrude above the factory bed rail or more than 36 inches from the front wall of the factory bed. (Not
the bed lip). No Speakers or enclosures are allowed outside the cab. Bed cuts are not allowed. Factory
panels may be removed in the cargo area to facilitate system installation. Podiums will be allowed.
Modifications: No modifications will be allowed to the interior of the passenger compartment or exterior
of the vehicle in order to facilitate the audio system. The floor, ceiling and dashboard must be OEM or
equivalent to include all fabrics, coverings and carpets.


And it still reads incorrect....

I really dont care if its with or without, just claify the rule so everyone is on the same page and no BS comes up. Thats it.

just another lovely usaci issue that will just get ignored till it comes up again.lol

id like to see stock classes have all panels in place that is what stock is .... but then there would be alot of pissed off people because they tosed out all the pannels and would have to buy new ones

Subject: Re: Stock class question

Looking at the rules posted as of today, are factory panels behind the b piller and below the window line able to be removed? Did this change in 1 months time?

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On Feb 2, 2012, at 4:04 PM, USACMS@aol.com wrote:

Modifications: No modifications will be allowed to the interior of the passenger compartment or exterior
of the vehicle in order to facilitate the audio system
 
Pro Stock may remove panels. Stock MAY NOT
 
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It's official......start finding them panels boys and girls.

i got everything someone needs for a s-10 and a rex ....

I thought that it had always been in the rules and i have interpreted the rules per the stock class as having stock panels as a requirement. Good thing i never removed any of mine.

me and ralph had a conversation about this yesterday, and he asked me my opnion on this topic. i explained that i thought it should either be you can pull panels below the window line or not allow any of them to do it at all in stock wich is what i beleive should be the rule anyways ebcause removing panels isnt stock anymore.

rules are vague and need to be clarified and adressed per vehicle just emagine how long that would take and how much reading as well

way i see it is they contradicted themselves.lol i mean i think stock class should have stock panels too since that is stock but it has never ever been that way!! and he said it himself no rule changes for 2012 then they say this.lol thats a rule change i mean i guess ya gotta go back and dq everybody who won a title in a rex in stock classes for the last 15 yrs.lol oh and s10's too.lol gonna be alot of people fucked this year and them s10 scores just went down for stock.

but i have learned in the little time ive been around usaci that is business as usual.lol

Meh keep the panels in stock. May be good for the sport.

Let ss remove em.

I agree, panels are a must in stock, remove for SS, only makes sense..

i aint against it thats fine just funny how it all came up and got handled.lol i dont even run stock.lol

shut up poundstone. you have no opinion...

now touch it

i know just like to pretend i do!! and i cant find it

lol it doesnt matter, not even the judges have them either really apparently...

keep searching, when you get there ill you know!

all stock vehicles should have panels in period making it well stock


ss should be able to remove them below the window line only

NO RULE CHANGES FOR 2012!

I remember that post chris lol

But like jeff said is The way it should have been from the start. But I think mod should be allowed to pull the front seats too. I don't see the point in allowing swivels and plastic seats.in order to keep the cabin like "stock" lol

No rule changes for 2012-2015 I'm sure