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PostSubject: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 3:37 pm

based ont the pictures below anyone have any input on what class i would be in? 1 amp aq3500d.1. 2 15inch dc audio lvl 4 with lvl 5 upgrades subwoofer 1 extra battery in back 975ccahelp on classifacation 02231212help on classifacation 02231214help on classifacation 02241211help on classifacation 02241212
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 3:46 pm

Ahh .. super mod with the external bracing.
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 3:50 pm

You could be in stock if you bring that amp down below the glass and take off the bracing
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 4:37 pm

so acouples of ?s. if i take off the window braces i would be in super stock? n if i leave them on im in super mod? ok super mod then y dont i just take the back window completly out n replace it with 3/4 mdf? i mean by putting those little 5 inch braces on to help hold the corners of my rear window down realy jumps me in to the same class as a buddy that has a huge wall in his 2 door escort? if i pull the braces off can i have people hold my back window in? cuz i mean i gain spl with the braces but still can blow out my back window @ 1/2 ohm. some advise on what 2 do to help solve my dilema? i mean i got about $3500 in2 my system the way it is now n got it set up the way i want it. all i have left to do is sound deadening, n that i probly cant aford to get done till a couple days from our comp down here.
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 4:56 pm

Hit the db junkies link. Are you on there?
Or 970-948-1796
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 5:12 pm

ya im on there

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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 5:16 pm

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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSat Feb 25, 2012 5:38 pm

what chris said super mod or port or super port the way it is .......
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 12:39 am

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I havnt seen that on dbjunkies
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 12:52 am

supermod man any mods done outside the vehicle for bracing does in deed put you in the same class as your buddy


now if you are "blowing the window out" then you need to get that \"Female dog\" re-sealed because ill bet you arent even poping over 157 on the termlab.
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 9:02 am

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so acouples of ?s. if i take off the window braces i would be in super stock? n if i leave them on im in super mod? ok super mod then y dont i just take the back window completly out n replace it with 3/4 mdf? i mean by putting those little 5 inch braces on to help hold the corners of my rear window down realy jumps me in to the same class as a buddy that has a huge wall in his 2 door escort? if i pull the braces off can i have people hold my back window in? cuz i mean i gain spl with the braces but still can blow out my back window @ 1/2 ohm. some advise on what 2 do to help solve my dilema? i mean i got about $3500 in2 my system the way it is now n got it set up the way i want it. all i have left to do is sound deadening, n that i probly cant aford to get done till a couple days from our comp down here.

The way you want it? Really? You got a royal fukin if you spent 3500 on that install. At least try to conceal the wiring and find something better than 2x4's to mount that amp to. Not really dicking on you, just saying. Some 2" suction cups used for handling glass and a lil strapping on the inside will handle the problem and you can have someone hold it in during the runs.
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 3:16 pm

u must not have read my topic about rhino lining my blazer? try reading it n u might understand more. i do my own installs, n thanx for proving my point, its people like u that make me mad. i do what i can with the money i have. im a guy yhat dont have alot of money, the $3500 i put into my system was for the deck subs custom built box (rhyno lining my box) amp wiring n batteries. i install my own stuff. so thanx for letting me know its not done the "the right way" n instead done the i can manage to pay for it. how much money in ALL do u have in ur system? my guess is its WAY more than me. now that thats off my chest n i feel alittle better what do u mean n how would i do it with the 2" suction cups n some strapping on the inside? im trying to stay in super stock class.
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 3:58 pm

if doing super stock ya need to move the amp below window line ......... 3500 for what ya got aint to bad ..as for the suction cups he means one one each side of the inside back glass then 1 on each side window and run a small strap between the two and it would hold that back glass in place ...instead if using self tappers and screwing threw the out side of the body ,,, at least that is what i got out of it
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 5:15 pm

I dont have alot of money either, with 5 kids.I have approximately 3700 dollars in my system. I do my own installs and I never buy from a shop. ( Sorry to you shop guys) I have 2 Planet BB2400 1 Planet bb4150 8 Powerbass 10" 3xl excelon head unit and all associated wiring and install materials. My amps alone retail for around 2700 at the shops and I only spent 775 on them.What i meant was you could spend your money wiser. Rowland understood what I meant with the suction cups.
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 10:00 pm

k. sorry for getting pissy earlier. but wouldnt the suction cups n straps still be a form of bracing? n i thought it was stock class that the amp had 2 b blow the window line? see this is what im saying, i dont know much as far as competing. i went to the comp here last yr n got my ass handed 2 me n so this yr i have a personal goal of tring 2 @ least place. getting as big as you can while staying in the lowest class you can, isnt that the name of the game? so if i remove the outside window braces but leave the amp where it is what class would i b in? n i like gong 2 my local shop cuz even if i dont buy from him he is still more than willing 2 give me some advise n help me out. ( y do you think i dont have a dc audio amp 2 go with my dc audio subs, thier amps r exspensive) another problem im having is my amp is clipping bad when i put in the usaci cd n it turns itself off. any ideas y? not enough power 2 the amp? @ the amp it reads 14.4 volts with the volume all the way down n @ listening level it reads 13.5 13.6.
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeSun Feb 26, 2012 10:26 pm

Amp wont be working much longer if you leave it where it is while you listen to music....

Go to a hardware store and get some 3M window weld. It comes in a caulk tube. Wear gloves when you put it on.
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 7:41 am

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Amp wont be working much longer if you leave it where it is while you listen to music....

Go to a hardware store and get some 3M window weld. It comes in a caulk tube. Wear gloves when you put it on.
Good point, I hadnt even thought about the vibrations on the amp. Could be low voltage at the amp, could be ohm load incorrect ( how many coils in each sub and what resistance are they)
Could be the vibrations from the box causing the clipping. Size of the amp? Number of batteries?
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 9:35 am

the cups are for bracing and some one might biotch so go to dollar general or walmart and get 4 baby on board signs and hang them from the cups ....problem solved ...lol ..
i dont think glueing is best dont ya need to open the glass first then the tail gate ...
if it was my truck id just holla at a few people and say hey hold my back glass for me please ... ay shows there is no shortage of people to help hold it
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 1:31 pm

the subs r dvc 2 ohm. the way they r wired up now reads a 2.4 ohm load @ the amp. 4 comps i am going 2 wire it down 2 1/2 ohm @ the amp. the amp is sapose 2 put out 4300 watts rms @ 1 ohm. n i only have a reg 975 cca car battery in the back( thinking thats my biggest problem) but its all i could aford. a cat battery is 2 big 4 the space i have. what im sure i need is 2 modle 2000 bat caps or 1 modle 4000 bat cap but thats money i nolonger have. anybody have some powerfull used batteries 4 sales? (cheap) lol. n thats probly what ill do, just ask some people @ the comps 2 help hold down my window cuz ya the glass has 2 open b4 the tailgait will open. n i would love 2 move my amp below the window line but if u can tell from the pics my box takes up alot of room( got it tuned around 46hz for comps but put a board in 4 daily listeng that retunes it around 33hz) so where could i remount the amp? i was told that mounting amps virticaly is bad 4 the amp n it also bad 4 the amp 2 have little breathing room. on the drivers side of the box can i cut out that plastic below the window line n mount it virticaly there? n if so what class would that put me in? i literaly have no other place 2 mount it n keep it below the window line.
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 1:58 pm

you can run that 3500@1/2 dailey with no issues man ive played with more than a few of them lol
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 2:51 pm

yep .5 all day long as long as ya got battery
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 3:01 pm

Mount it to the car on the passenger side?
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 3:03 pm

It looks like we could get it stock. But super stock is a potion if you leave it there
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 8:23 pm

Does it read 2.4 ohms with a meter or is that calculated nominal ohms. Can mount to seatback? Im running 4 wal-mart deep cycles group 31 size. Feeds 5700 watts pretty well. Burps and streetbeats within 2 tenths of a db.
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeTue Feb 28, 2012 5:31 pm

thats with a meter. i think i got it figured out how 2 get in 2 stock or super stock because of my brace off the side of the box that i had 2 cut the plastic 2 run my brace threw it. build a amp/ battery rack on my backseat floorboard n run a 4 cell(450 RA) cat battery. behind the b piller n below the window line. what do u guys think of that? ps.... the owner of my local shop gave me the idea. thanx again.
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeTue Feb 28, 2012 7:41 pm

Actual ohms (read with meter) is not how ohm load is determined. Actual varies with power level, frequency, temps, all manner of variables. Amps are rated by nominal ohm load. With two subs, two coils, and two ohms. Coils and subs wired in paralell should give you a .5 ohm nominal load. My system is at .5 ohm nominal but with box rise and the other variables operating ohms is 3.76. Not sure what your amp is rated to. It should be ok with that load. As for sound deadening, hit up lowes for some peel and seal. Works like a champ for 16 bucks a roll tough to beat it.
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeTue Feb 28, 2012 9:15 pm

ya idk 2 much about the science of amp/ohms. n i got a good deal on sound deadener. was going 2 try the peal n seal but cant get it anywhere localy.
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letmeviberateyou wrote:
ya idk 2 much about the science of amp/ohms. n i got a good deal on sound deadener. was going 2 try the peal n seal but cant get it anywhere localy.
I figured there was a lowes or home depot bout everywhere, guess not.
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PostSubject: Re: help on classifacation   help on classifacation Icon_minitimeWed Feb 29, 2012 3:51 pm

not on the eastern side of montukey. it would take 2 hrs there n 2 hrs back 2 get to the nearest lowes around here, cheaper just 2 get actual sound deadener.
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