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poundstone Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1900 Age : 41 Location : decatur, il Registration date : 2010-06-05
| Subject: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:53 pm | |
| ok now i get the point that the bigger the wire the less resistance therefore the more current that gets transferred but when is it overkill? i mean i understand having multiple runs with multiple alternator setups but if you only have 1 alternator that does 270a max why would you have 6 runs when it only needs 1 run to carry that much current? i could understand 2 runs to lower resistance but i see some people with 1 alt 6 runs to the back and just seems stupid to me!! if im wrong please explain just wondering? | |
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solo1 Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 428 Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:58 pm | |
| Less resistance from the front alt./battery to the amp= louder. | |
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SQcrewcab Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 801 Age : 45 Location : Springfield, IL Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:00 pm | |
| There are some guys that have added a few extra runs of 1/0 and their score went up.. added a few more runs and it went up again.. and so on.. Your talking Tenths but every bit matters. The ones you see with 6 runs stop there because thats all they can fit.. there are people with more than that. | |
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poundstone Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1900 Age : 41 Location : decatur, il Registration date : 2010-06-05
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:17 pm | |
| yeah i figured that im just wondering when is it overkill? if i have my battery bank in the back the only thing getting carried through it is the current from the alternator which maxes out eventually. i understand it in battery banks or amps or stuff like that just not the whole i have a 270a alot so im gonna run 6 runs of 0 ga from it i just dont see the gain but ive never test i personally have 2 runs im just wondering if its gonna matter that much i know every tenth counts and when i get to that point i might understand doing it. idk just tryin to understand it!lol i guess its just personal whether it works for you or not! | |
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scionsoloxb Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 4832 Location : missouri Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:18 pm | |
| sometimes ppl test on the termlab on 5 digits... u dig....lol | |
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poundstone Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1900 Age : 41 Location : decatur, il Registration date : 2010-06-05
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:25 pm | |
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maddog Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 452 Age : 43 Location : Bristol, PA Registration date : 2010-06-15
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:06 pm | |
| I had a .5 db gain in my crx when i went from 2 runs of zero gauge to 8 runs. 4 pos and 4 neg all to the front battery with a stock alt. | |
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SPL Blazer Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 579 Age : 50 Location : New England Registration date : 2008-05-04
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:29 pm | |
| I've heard some competitors with multiple runs do it because having those extra runs acts like a storage device, they can keep power that you need for a burp. Granted this probably won't make a difference in USACi where your allowed to keep the vehicle running. I know there are guys in Drags that have used as many as 30 runs each in Street Max, just for this reason. | |
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Greg McCool Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1960 Age : 45 Location : Nashville, TN Registration date : 2007-09-05
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:53 am | |
| - SPL Blazer wrote:
- I've heard some competitors with multiple runs do it because having those extra runs acts like a storage device, they can keep power that you need for a burp. Granted this probably won't make a difference in USACi where your allowed to keep the vehicle running. I know there are guys in Drags that have used as many as 30 runs each in Street Max, just for this reason.
Brahahahahahah... who told you that? | |
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SPL Blazer Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 579 Age : 50 Location : New England Registration date : 2008-05-04
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:11 am | |
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Greg McCool Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1960 Age : 45 Location : Nashville, TN Registration date : 2007-09-05
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:19 am | |
| Hmmmm ok..
Wire is NO way shape form or fashion a storage device! Wire is a conductor and nothing more. When Dragers or my self ran multiple runs it's because it acts like a flexible bus bar not a storage device. | |
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SPL Blazer Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 579 Age : 50 Location : New England Registration date : 2008-05-04
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:26 am | |
| So 200-600+ feet of copper 1/0 wire won't hold any power at all when the vehicle is off? I find that hard to believe. | |
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Greg McCool Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1960 Age : 45 Location : Nashville, TN Registration date : 2007-09-05
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:30 am | |
| - SPL Blazer wrote:
- So 200-600+ feet of copper 1/0 wire won't hold any power at all when the vehicle is off? I find that hard to believe.
How much power does that 200-600+ 1/0 hold when you take it off a bank of batteries? | |
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SPL Blazer Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 579 Age : 50 Location : New England Registration date : 2008-05-04
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:39 am | |
| Probably not much, or at least not for very long. But who's talking about taking it off a battery, if it's on the battery it's like an extension of the battery and will hold a charge until discharged. It doesn't have to hold much to help a score when your doing it with the vehicle off, but every bit helps. | |
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Greg McCool Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1960 Age : 45 Location : Nashville, TN Registration date : 2007-09-05
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:41 am | |
| We tried long before using 1 spool of 100ft of 1/0 making 1 run from the front to the back leaving all the wire still spooled up Vs. cutting up the 100ft spool of 1/0 and ran 4 runs of 1/0 from front to back and the gain we huge on the runs 4 runs of wire Vs. the other way. | |
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Greg McCool Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1960 Age : 45 Location : Nashville, TN Registration date : 2007-09-05
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:42 am | |
| So if you say wire stores power thats wrong from all my testing. Your right every little but helps! | |
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The_Rowlands I own this joint!
Number of posts : 7398 Age : 58 Location : MIDWEST Registration date : 2007-08-08
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:53 am | |
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AudioAnonymous Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 736 Age : 48 Location : Titletown Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:57 am | |
| - SPL Blazer wrote:
- I've heard some competitors with multiple runs do it because having those extra runs acts like a storage device, they can keep power that you need for a burp. Granted this probably won't make a difference in USACi where your allowed to keep the vehicle running. I know there are guys in Drags that have used as many as 30 runs each in Street Max, just for this reason.
They're on crack. | |
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DJMDMA Newbie
Number of posts : 35 Age : 42 Location : IOWA Registration date : 2011-01-17
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:58 am | |
| - CactusSounds-Geoff wrote:
- SPL Blazer wrote:
- I've heard some competitors with multiple runs do it because having those extra runs acts like a storage device, they can keep power that you need for a burp. Granted this probably won't make a difference in USACi where your allowed to keep the vehicle running. I know there are guys in Drags that have used as many as 30 runs each in Street Max, just for this reason.
They're on crack. LOL | |
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taz Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 797 Age : 58 Location : iowa Registration date : 2007-06-29
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:46 am | |
| - CactusSounds-Geoff wrote:
- SPL Blazer wrote:
- I've heard some competitors with multiple runs do it because having those extra runs acts like a storage device, they can keep power that you need for a burp. Granted this probably won't make a difference in USACi where your allowed to keep the vehicle running. I know there are guys in Drags that have used as many as 30 runs each in Street Max, just for this reason.
They're on crack. what vehicle did a 165 on two 12volt batts? its in your sig | |
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AudioAnonymous Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 736 Age : 48 Location : Titletown Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:27 pm | |
| - taz wrote:
- CactusSounds-Geoff wrote:
- SPL Blazer wrote:
- I've heard some competitors with multiple runs do it because having those extra runs acts like a storage device, they can keep power that you need for a burp. Granted this probably won't make a difference in USACi where your allowed to keep the vehicle running. I know there are guys in Drags that have used as many as 30 runs each in Street Max, just for this reason.
They're on crack.
what vehicle did a 165 on two 12volt batts? its in your sig my streetmax van. Why? | |
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taz Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 797 Age : 58 Location : iowa Registration date : 2007-06-29
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:59 pm | |
| just asking as i had not seen or heard that , mark brus and i thought we had the loudest 12volt score with hi s s10 , 164.9 . is that street legal or a mod vehicle? | |
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Chris Team ACT Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 564 Age : 43 Location : Vernon,CT Registration date : 2009-01-31
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:04 pm | |
| I have 8 runs of 1/0 in my Yugo only because I didnt have the funds for 16 runs. Every run extra = gain. I compete with the car off and everytime I added a run I gained and I keep gaining. | |
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Greg McCool Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1960 Age : 45 Location : Nashville, TN Registration date : 2007-09-05
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:36 pm | |
| Just because someone posts on the drag forum don't mean they know what they are talking about any more then me standing in my garage thinking I'm a car..... | |
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DJMDMA Newbie
Number of posts : 35 Age : 42 Location : IOWA Registration date : 2011-01-17
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:41 pm | |
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poundstone Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1900 Age : 41 Location : decatur, il Registration date : 2010-06-05
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:26 pm | |
| - taz wrote:
- just asking as i had not seen or heard that , mark brus and i thought we had the loudest 12volt score with hi s s10 , 164.9 . is that street legal or a mod vehicle?
its a mod vehicle 4 18's if i remember right? im sure he'll chime in! his van is badass cant wait to see it this year!! | |
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scionsoloxb Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 4832 Location : missouri Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:45 pm | |
| that was 2 12v batts......... | |
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taz Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 797 Age : 58 Location : iowa Registration date : 2007-06-29
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:17 pm | |
| very nice.....would like to see | |
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AudioAnonymous Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 736 Age : 48 Location : Titletown Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:55 pm | |
| - poundstone wrote:
- taz wrote:
- just asking as i had not seen or heard that , mark brus and i thought we had the loudest 12volt score with hi s s10 , 164.9 . is that street legal or a mod vehicle?
its a mod vehicle 4 18's if i remember right? im sure he'll chime in! his van is badass cant wait to see it this year!! If by mod you mean extreme vehicle then no it's not an extreme vehicle. It does however have a wall in it without a floor cut and it is street legal so by USACi's class name it would be in modified. | |
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poundstone Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1900 Age : 41 Location : decatur, il Registration date : 2010-06-05
| Subject: Re: purpose of multiple runs of wire? Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:24 pm | |
| now cactus needs to come out with a amp that does 1000w at 4ohms for the usaci mod classes!lol | |
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