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This post will be updated to keep members informed of amps that are rerated as well as amps that are just "confusing" to rate or hard to get data on because of age, etc...... It will be updated on a regular basis
Last Update – 09/21/2007

USACI Certified:
Soundstream
----- PCA 2000p 550 watts 06/22/2006
----- PCA 3500P 1500 watts 06/22/2006

Clarified:
Zapco
----- 9.0 1100 Watts
Orion
----- Concept 300 Watts
Cliff
----- CDX-20A 4000W 1800 Watts
American Bass
----- Cx1500 255 watts
Lightning Audio LA Storm Amps
----- x1.1200.4 600 watts
----- x1.600.2 300 watts
----- x1.2000.1d 600 watts
Earthquake
----- PHD2000W 500 watts
----- PHD5000W 1250 watts
----- PHD10000W 2500 watts
DD
----- DD M1 400 watts 07/18/2006
----- DD Z1 1725 watts 09/21/2007
Linear Power
----- 2.2HV 500 Watts
----- 3.2HV 700 Watts
dB Drive
_____ PD1200 350 Watts 9/2004
_____ P1200.1 300 watts Passed 08/2005
_____ P2000.1 500 watts 05/2006
MMATS
_____ 3000.05/3500.05 380 watts 05/31/2006
Kicker
_____ 1200.1 450 watts 06/21/2006


Rerated:
Cadence
----- Z7 300 watts
Mark Antony
----- 25 OPCM 350 Watts
Ma Audio
----- HK4000d 1000 Watts
American Bass
----- XD-3000 600 watts 8/2005 and 03/29/2006
Crossfire
----- VR-1000D 300 watts 8/2005
Atomic
----- (all models) Unlimited Watts 9/2004

We have checked 18 Atomic amps at 7 different retailers across the United States and found 18 of 18 amplifiers have internal components other than those specified on the cases and in the manufacturers product literature. While this is a most serious issue and requires immediate action we must take into account the members who have unwittingly purchased this product based on the incorrect information provided.

At this time ALL ATOMIC AMPLIFIERS will be automatically rated and placed in the UNLIMITED POWER CLASS of each division. Competitors current points standings will not be affected nor will their ability to compete at finals. Competitors with Atomic amps may move up to the unlimited class at finals regardless of the power class they qualified in.

Straight from the desk of Ralph Randall to American Bass.



"These are official results and are "UsaCi Certified" ratings. You may use the "UsaCi Certified Ratings" in your literature and advertising if you so wish"


Model Number UsaCi rating allowed
------------------------------------------------

CX 100.1 ---- 100 watts (UNLIMITED)
XD2000 -----400 watts
XD3000 -----600 watts. (previously protested)




Ralph Randall,
UsaCi Inc.


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This is awesome!!!

We love seeing this updated.

It would be even better if there were a section in this thread that states which amps have been protested or in the process of being clarified.

Thanks again for the update. Very Happy
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Bump....Some clarification needed on the AB XD3000...the rules specifically state that the highest 4 ohm rating by the manufacturer will be used. So since AB has it listed at 700 watts @ 4ohm on their website, that should be the rating. This situation is no different than the AB400.1 issue from earlier this year. I hope people realized this and aren't looking to fit that amp in 0-600 at finals.
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Wasn't it rerated by usaci already at 600w @ 4 ohms
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not 0-600, but.......
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hay i have been in IRAQ since feb of this year but didnt get to see all of what was going on with AB400.1.what was the rating on them?
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hay i have been in IRAQ since feb of this year but didnt get to see all of what was going on with AB400.1.what was the rating on them?
1000 watts 4 OHMS
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so the 400.1 is rated at 1000 at 4 ohms so if i am going to run 4 400.1s what class will i be in.Than what is the rateing on the IA 40.1?
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40.1 is 900@4
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Wha tis the ab 500.1 rated at
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500.1 has no rating bob wont do ratings anymore do to past experiences with his amps being rated thn slammed
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500.1 has no rating bob wont do ratings anymore do to past experiences with his amps being rated thn slammed
I know Jeff. I saw them in action. What do you think they will be rated at?
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Yo k,Your right.the treo amps are not to be found on their website nor ampguts.I swear I saw it before.
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Yo k,Your right.the treo amps are not to be found on their website nor ampguts.I swear I saw it before.
Your dreaming again Dennis
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500.1 just cause it is american bass probly 3k at 4 ohms lol
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sanmans_kitty wrote:
500.1 just cause it is american bass probly 3k at 4 ohms lol
Yes I now what u mean
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sanmans_kitty wrote:
500.1 just cause it is american bass probly 3k at 4 ohms lol

That amp will do 5000+ at 1 ohm at 17 volts.
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Nice wrote:
sanmans_kitty wrote:
500.1 just cause it is american bass probly 3k at 4 ohms lol

That amp will do 5000+ at 1 ohm at 17 volts.

Yes. usaci checks it at 4 ohms on 12 volt.
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oh, I see.
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This is sooo confusing to a newbie like myself. Needing clarification---

My amp is rated by the manufacturer to have output power at 14.4v in the following:

1 x 500W @ 4 ohms
1 x 1000W @ 2 ohms
1 x 2000W @ 1 ohm

Now, I'll be wiring the amp to two dual 2s, making them share 1000w @ 2ohm....right?

Well, since the amp is rated at 500 @ 4ohms, will I be in the 0-600 class?

That's what I'm understanding from this thread.

Input please.
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ARMed&Bangin wrote:
This is sooo confusing to a newbie like myself. Needing clarification---

My amp is rated by the manufacturer to have output power at 14.4v in the following:

1 x 500W @ 4 ohms
1 x 1000W @ 2 ohms
1 x 2000W @ 1 ohm

Now, I'll be wiring the amp to two dual 2s, making them share 1000w @ 2ohm....right?

Well, since the amp is rated at 500 @ 4ohms, will I be in the 0-600 class?

Yes . whatever at the 4 ohms
That's what I'm understanding from this thread.

Input please.

yes whatever at the 4 ohms
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Are you phukin with me? If this is correct, then it changes everything.
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whatever it is at 4 ohms. or let say max power divide by4 whichever is higher is the rating you go at. ex 2000 watt at 1 ohms them 2000/4= 500. if it is 3000 at 1 them 3000/4= 750. then it will be 750 watts
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Cool deal, indeed. Thanks for the info man. Will be very useful. Like I've said, this really changes everything. I thought I'd fall into the 601-1800 class, since my current setup will be sharing 1000w. Again, thanks man.
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Dos any one know what the DD M3 is rated at 4ohms?
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I am not for sure but thinking about it it has to be less than 600 cause they are saying that they are the amp to have 0 to 600. I think I read something some wheir that it was like 550 but I am not a pro or even close to it.
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I found some interesting info from someones personal test on the m3. Still looking for the other info.
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M3 is rated at 600
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So it was not tested by USACI?
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no. that was rating set by manufacturer
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