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PostSubject: we need a judges training   Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:44 am

Even if it's the Thursday before Finals...that is all. afro
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PostSubject: Re: we need a judges training   Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:26 am

jsketoe wrote:
Even if it's the Thursday before Finals...that is all. afro


I agree totally, what area are you in and whom is the director there? I recommend contacting him/her and setting up something on a regular basis.
In my area, we try to do training for local judges at least twice a year, sometimes more. We don't restict it to just judges though, it's open to anyone that wants to come to the house and learn either about SQ or SPL rules and judging... If you don't have a local director that you can get to do so, I think you might think about taking a trip to the main office if you are close enough and setup an appointment with someone that can train you in either SPL or SQ, or both.... whatever field it is you are looking to get familiar with.
Tim Goudy and his wife are excellent in SQ training and are in Arkansas, close to the main office, Tim is a SQ Judge GENIUS.... and Cindy, well.... probably the hardest, most unforgiving, most knowlegable, find every damn thing that might be wrong possible even when you didn't know it yourself, and then take you to school!!!, one of the best install judges I have freakin' ever came across since I've been in the industy! (yep, you know it, she hammered my install several times back in the day when I competed until I finally got it right.... Son of a B&@*h she knows her stuff) As far as SPL, their are plenty of folks at headquarters that can assist you.
Don't wait till finals, educate yourself, learn the rules, and find training either in your area, or someone elses.... The more you know and learn, the more you can assist the competitors when giving them the hammer, or not.
Remember that a SQ judge cannot properly use the judging format if he/she doesn't understand the interpetation of the rules. Get certified a.s.a.p.. Pass your knowledge on to other judges in need of training, and you will find yourself ahead of the pack! You will enable yourself to confidently answer questions from competitors and make solid, and useful recommendations to them as well.
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PostSubject: Re: we need a judges training   Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:01 am

One of my main questions ... Is why is there still a Judge or two that actually thinks Sub bass from the rear is good? It blows my freaking mind .... I have even heard one say and i qoute " Ive never been to a rock concert and didn't hear alot of bass" Can you believe this? First off a ROCK CONCERT... LOL that makes me almost cry.. Second wouldn't that be the furthest from what we as judges look for.. I dont think i have ever heard a ROCK song on the cd's. Anyway ive never been to an Jazz or Classical concert and heard bass all over the place... Maybe im smoking too much not sure.... Please inlighten me. Cause im loosing faith in this INDUSTRY.... Especially if ive been listening and judging vehicles wrong... I give up.
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PostSubject: Re: we need a judges training   Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:14 am

jsketoe = John Sketoe = my partner in crime at finals

Shane, thanks for the props!!

I agree John but I have no clue when/if we can pull it off. Maybe new venue will = new procedures. I'm sure this year we'll probably be going up a little early so the possibility is there....
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PostSubject: Re: we need a judges training   Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:32 pm

I'm all for the training. Always try to learn something new in this game. Shane...sign me up for training. You need me, you know where I am.
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PostSubject: Re: we need a judges training   Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:25 pm

I just think it would be good for judges plus experienced competitors to learn what is being looked/listened for.
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PostSubject: Re: we need a judges training   Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:32 pm

I agree 100% ... Like i said before i wont name names but they are out there that believe ALOT OF BASS REAR OR FRONT IS OKAY. This would help because i know ive judged a few guys that had their rides way too heavy on the bass and when i said they had to much they told me..." Hey last weekend in blah blah the guy told me . " "Dude you got all those subs in there and there not on" LOL ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh my.
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PostSubject: Re: we need a judges training   Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:45 pm

I agree, I would love to attend Smile It would be nice to bring the SQ training back for sure! We need consistency among all of the judges so that competitors know what to do. If I can help in any way to pull this off let me know.
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PostSubject: Re: we need a judges training   Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:23 am

WOW cheers
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PostSubject: Re: we need a judges training   Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:15 pm

Jimbo - the only thing I can say is that some people like more bass.

Hell, at Trifecta in San Antonio, we had the Trifecta judge tell us he wanted a little more low-end sub-bass...

I've had other judges tell me the low-end sub bass in the car is absolutely incredible.

Who knows...one show doesn't make or break you, it's if you can do it over and over and over again that matters....consistency is the key!
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PostSubject: Re: we need a judges training   Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:19 pm

You also have to remember that the noise floor has something to do with your midbass and sub-bass levels as well. That's the thing about SQ...there's a lot of opinion on the listening side...training will help narrow down the amount of opinion though. But it is there none the less.. afro
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PostSubject: Re: we need a judges training   Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:23 pm

Usaci is sending a Judge to train the guys in Thailand later this month, so why not train us. I would definately go to training for this. I wouldn't mind a quick spl training too, just so everyone is on the same page as far as judging goes.
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PostSubject: Re: we need a judges training   Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:42 pm

I iwll get with my trainers and see if we can put together a couple of training classes.

One in the Joplin or KC area for sure and perhaps one in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. Shreveport may be a good location as well if we can get 12-volt news to host it....
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PostSubject: Re: we need a judges training   Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:32 pm

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I iwll get with my trainers and see if we can put together a couple of training classes.

One in the Joplin or KC area for sure and perhaps one in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. Shreveport may be a good location as well if we can get 12-volt news to host it....


Now that is what im talking about. Go Ralph Go...
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PostSubject: Re: we need a judges training   Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:52 pm

I'd go to some training if it was up here in KC or down in Joplin. Be a nice distraction from real life.
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