What is the actual rule?

why is it that when i was chasing points, i was not allowed to run twice in a division, yet it continues to happen right now. what gives????? are judges ever going to be enforced? or is it that they DO get to make up the rules? i found a show where a competitor competed in sb1,2,3,4,and 5 and super mod 0-4000 PLUS supermod 4000 and up. plus regular AND super portwars

Well you can't run in the same division with the same car....if you have different cars you can....and for SB...it has different rules and is very grey on what u can can't do....as long as you have the right amount of subs than you van run it

ok, so this guy must have two cars that are both registered to him? because i had to pull any points that were earned by the volvo last year. thats my brothers car that i was using along with mine. then i was told you cant do that, so i had ralph pull all those points, but even then i had to run it stock because my truck was in mod and i couldnt repeat a division. not even with a different car.

In Street Beat, the qualifications or criteria is actuaally downward rather than upwards. (I hope I said that right.) In a nutshell, if your system actually qualifies for SB1, you can run in 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 if you wish. However, if your system is (let's say) qualified for SB3, then you are limited to SB3, 4 & 5. Any of the classes that are higher than the one your system is qualified for are only optional. In other words, if you want to take a chance with your two 10" woofers against four 15's, have at it.

There you go...if the car was your brothers than you should have lost the points....I have a few cars that I run as well...but I don't run 2 cars @ the same show

but mike thats not the same for SPL classes right? you cant run mod 0-1000 , 1k-2000 , etc all at one show in the same car right?

Only sb

This all comes down to the holes in the usac rule book....it should be clear by the rules but the way the rules read its really just a guess

Well i can tell ya right now whoever does this stuff doesn't get all their points once it hits the main office...See some directors or judges will take your money let you run give you your trophy but when turned into the main office guess what..???? What?






Ralph and Darville only give ya points for one class in each divistion so you kinda just wasted your time and money... When all that would have to be said is wait you wont get all the points if i do this and that would cure it but these same judges would rather take the money instead and worry about the compeditor bitching later that he didn't recieve points and then say well i turned them in... WEll thats not a godddamn answer if you ask me ...But ive seen it for over 10 years now so you all do the math.... And no its not Ralphs fault this time guys

Heres what you can do as long as you qualify for it, not pro, etc, 1 entry per show in these divisons
1 stock class
1 super stock class
1 mod class
1 super mod class
port wars
super port
sb1
sb2
sb3
sb4
sb5

Of course that's also if you only have two 10's for the sb classes, ohh and as far as the power classes, you must do same power classes, or similiar, say 0-600 and 0-1000, but not say 0-600 and 1001-2000, easy enough huh? And also of course if your pro, just take stock and sb1-4 off that list.

And as far as the rule book not being clear and having loopholes, that is actually not the case, it is the show director who has the loopholes lol

Here is is from the rulebook for power classes;

"Each vehicle can be entered and judged in only one power class but in as many divisions as it
may qualify to compete in. A separate registration is required for each division’s judging. A
competitor may enter more than one vehicle in the same event but only in different power
classes. Vehicles may reenter that same power class as many times as the event schedule will
allow. (Retries)"

And SB;

"10. Exception to “USACI General Rules”. In Street Beat a competitor may compete in multiple
classes within the Street Beat division provided his/her vehicle meets the qualifications for that
class. .
(Example: A competitor has 4 - 10" woofers which qualifies him/her to compete in SB2, 3, 4 and
5 but not SB1. Remember that points qualification for SB1, 2, and 3 are listed as "maximum".)
11. Pros* may only compete in SB5."

Thats easy enough if you ask me, if you have any problems i suggest you carry a rulebook with you, then you can show the judge, of course the judge should probably have a rulebook too, but i doubt most could produce one if yo asked to see it.

i have no more questions. you cleared it up 100 percent.

the way the rules read you can actually run every single class provided you have enough cars. and every single sb class with only one car.

that being the case, i have yet to have a judge steer me wrong. it has been me that has been wrong. i guess i need to read a little before i cry about something.

thanks chad.