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twentyhurtz Pro Contributor


Number of posts: 860 Age: 26 Location: Hattiesburg, Ms Registration date: 2008-09-29
 | Subject: 3 12's or 2 15's? Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:43 am | |
| ok, i'm building a setup for a friend and wanted some opinions.
currently in my friends s10, i built a box(6.1cubes) tuned at 48hrz for 2 15's. The 15's he bought are some cheap pawn shop Q-powers, and we sourced him a crossfire vr1000d for a good deal, so far the q-powers have been holding up for a year now without issues. We're wanting to upgrade the subs though and one of our friends can get us kicker for about 70% off retail, not a huge kicker fan, but it will suffice. We was thinking about just dropping in a pair of comp vr 15's to replaces the q powers. Another thought for about the same costs of those subs, would be to get 3 12" comp vr's instead, sure with the vc's config's i would either have to run a 0.66 ohm load or a 1.33 ohm load on the amp, and i loose a little cone area by going to 3 12's. So, go 2 15's or 3 12's? If i go 12's i will fire subs and port up, currently the box for 15's is firing port/subs towards rear seat, which we have deemed, unfavorable but still good. We're running a 1ohm load on the 1000d right now, has anyone on here ran or think a crossfire vr1000d can run .66 daily? |
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210fordracing21 Pro Contributor


Number of posts: 843 Age: 24 Location: San antonio TX Registration date: 2009-07-29
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:51 am | |
| I doubt you will want to run at .66 daily? Im strapped at 1 ohm to my DD9518G so each of my M3's are seeing a .5 load before rise and those start to get warm after a good hour of play time! IDK how your amp will like it? |
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twentyhurtz Pro Contributor


Number of posts: 860 Age: 26 Location: Hattiesburg, Ms Registration date: 2008-09-29
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:15 pm | |
| well personally i do not like to run my setups any lower than the manuf recommended load. I think i may just run a 1.33 for him if we go with the 12's, he will lose a little power but not a lot. I don't think he hardly ever turns it up, so i was not worried to much, but i guess i better stick with a safe load since its not my setup. |
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210fordracing21 Pro Contributor


Number of posts: 843 Age: 24 Location: San antonio TX Registration date: 2009-07-29
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:25 pm | |
| Good idea, especially when ur not in control lol! I like the 3 12's idea, I did my brothers everyday system in his cherokee and with woofers up port back we did a 142 in the kick which aint bad when he is using 3 12" Rockford P1's 8ohm svc and the rockford 300 watt mono amp! LOL It bangs for such a low wattage system! |
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twentyhurtz Pro Contributor


Number of posts: 860 Age: 26 Location: Hattiesburg, Ms Registration date: 2008-09-29
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:32 pm | |
| nice.. yea i didn't take a few things into consideration when i designed the last box. its fine when he is just riding because he is like 5'10 ish. i'm 6'3", when i jump in the truck, i wanna sit the seat all the way back, then i have the entire 150 sq in port blocked by the seat, and i have to sit it up a little to get the air flowing.. kinda sucks.. but if the subs and port were up we wouldn't have that little issue. The setup is a daily setup but we want it to be able to jump in the lanes at a moments notice, and currently the setup is only doing low 140's i'm guessing, we got on an antique goldline mic and got a 148, but on the TL i'm guessing 140-143 ish. I'm still trying to figure out the best setup in a truck, because i'm used to building setups in hatchback cars (civics,integra's) and not used to an ext cab setup. |
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210fordracing21 Pro Contributor


Number of posts: 843 Age: 24 Location: San antonio TX Registration date: 2009-07-29
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:39 pm | |
| Oh ok, well in my ranger best i tried was subs forward port up in the back by the window! I used 4" aero ports on my 2 9512's and was doin a 154 but I also had a hifonics sampson powering them at only 1 ohm! for low power your probably gunna wanna run aero ports to get best results?? I did a slot port firing up on my 2 18's same vehicle and I did a 157 but it was just a burp box no music! LOL |
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sanman All I do is post on this forum


Number of posts: 11374 Age: 40 Location: shelbyville Registration date: 2007-06-23
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:11 pm | |
| this gpoing to be a comp vehicle |
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210fordracing21 Pro Contributor


Number of posts: 843 Age: 24 Location: San antonio TX Registration date: 2009-07-29
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:53 pm | |
| sounds like they want both but unfortunately to be real competitive you gotta choose one or the other! |
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sanman All I do is post on this forum


Number of posts: 11374 Age: 40 Location: shelbyville Registration date: 2007-06-23
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:07 pm | |
| YUP SO ILL REFRAIN FROM COMMENTING THEN |
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210fordracing21 Pro Contributor


Number of posts: 843 Age: 24 Location: San antonio TX Registration date: 2009-07-29
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:07 pm | |
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supadave Uber Contributor


Number of posts: 3729 Age: 30 Location: tupelo mississippi Registration date: 2008-02-28
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:11 pm | |
| ^^^^^^^i agree with him on this one. if ya wanna be loud in a spl class you build to burp. if you wanna be loud in spl well you build to burp an then find a song at that freq. lol good luck man i hope you guys do well an i hope to see ya in biloxi in a few weeks |
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twentyhurtz Pro Contributor


Number of posts: 860 Age: 26 Location: Hattiesburg, Ms Registration date: 2008-09-29
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:15 am | |
| its not gonna be a one tone wonder or anything like that, its just basically gonna be a low power daily driver in the 140's |
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twentyhurtz Pro Contributor


Number of posts: 860 Age: 26 Location: Hattiesburg, Ms Registration date: 2008-09-29
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:17 am | |
| yea we will be at scrapin, luckily its only a one hour drive for us, but unless there is a cheap fee for a "fun run" then i doubt we're gonna have it metered, but we will def be over watching if were not too distracted by (.)(.) |
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sanman All I do is post on this forum


Number of posts: 11374 Age: 40 Location: shelbyville Registration date: 2007-06-23
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:53 am | |
| then the amound of subs or the size really isnt a fctor here |
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twentyhurtz Pro Contributor


Number of posts: 860 Age: 26 Location: Hattiesburg, Ms Registration date: 2008-09-29
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:04 pm | |
| i guess not, its not like cone area will matter too much here, i guess i was just looking for opinions on the setups really, weather i should keep 2 15's or go with 3 12's, slightly less power, but a much better setup as far as box and loading is concerned |
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supadave Uber Contributor


Number of posts: 3729 Age: 30 Location: tupelo mississippi Registration date: 2008-02-28
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:09 pm | |
| 15's are louder just because they are 15's lol then you have mo power but its 10% equipment 90% build just remeber that |
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sanman All I do is post on this forum


Number of posts: 11374 Age: 40 Location: shelbyville Registration date: 2007-06-23
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:18 pm | |
| wrog dave 3 12's will be louder because they have more cone area, and motor
do people on here ever learn anything |
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twentyhurtz Pro Contributor


Number of posts: 860 Age: 26 Location: Hattiesburg, Ms Registration date: 2008-09-29
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:23 pm | |
| | sanman wrote: | wrog dave 3 12's will be louder because they have more cone area, and motor
do people on here ever learn anything |
guys fyi i'm not some lowly newb, and btw 2 15's does have more cone area than 3 12's, not by much though. |
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sanman All I do is post on this forum


Number of posts: 11374 Age: 40 Location: shelbyville Registration date: 2007-06-23
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:39 pm | |
| cone area is near identicle, but the motor you gain from 3 12's is the true gain in this build kinda like saying hats louder 6 12's or 8 10's we know 8 10's |
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twentyhurtz Pro Contributor


Number of posts: 860 Age: 26 Location: Hattiesburg, Ms Registration date: 2008-09-29
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:51 pm | |
| i concur, i work in an engineering group, dissipating heat across 3 formers is way better than just 2 |
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twentyhurtz Pro Contributor


Number of posts: 860 Age: 26 Location: Hattiesburg, Ms Registration date: 2008-09-29
 | Subject: Re: 3 12's or 2 15's? Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:53 pm | |
| i think i may get him to order 3 12's, mainly because i don't like the box we built last time and we need a new direction, i wanted him to get 3 12" RE SX's but he can't afford the power to push them.. |
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