no wonder this country gets dumber every year

my niece in Oklahoma told me about her high school requirements. get this. in Oklahoma a 61 is a 'D'. so 61 passes. then if you can maintain this big ol 61 until finals, you're done. no need to take finals. they do this to have more passing grades and the school looks better. fornicating rediculis.

look someone has to work at wal-mart and fast food joints...

One of our local public high schools set a record for school suspensions this year. I think the school enrolment is around 1300 kids and they have had over 1500 suspensions handed out. The school districts responce was, "this is mostly due to the same group of kids" . um, then why the fornicate to you keep letting them come back?? I would not be surprised if they pass those kids as well.

dbdaddy wrote:

my niece in Oklahoma told me about her high school requirements. get this. in Oklahoma a 61 is a 'D'. so 61 passes. then if you can maintain this big ol 61 until finals, you're done. no need to take finals. they do this to have more passing grades and the school looks better. fornicating rediculis.

With a little encouragement from all of us, Sanman just might reach that goal this year.

I can't remember what they ever decided in Council Bluffs, but last year or the year before they had a big story on the news about the grading system, at the time if you didn't do your homework you got a 0 and rightly so, but a group of parents or the school board or someone, they were wanting to change the worst grade you can get for not turning something is be 50, that way it wouldn't hurt the students grade as much if they didn't do something.

Don't know what they ever decided.

here in Texas its 70 to pass, but you can miss as much school as you want and still pass. Then they have this program called apples, that if you flunk a class all you have to do is take that apples class your senior year and you get to make up all the credits you flunked from 9th-12th grade. So literally you don't have to pass a single class for 3 years and you can make them all up in one year. It sucks. I had to work hard to graduate and now they just hand out diplomas to kids who just stay in school 12 years. No need to do any homework or study for any test, just show up every now and then. There are no minimum days required to be in school to get a grade. Back in my day more that 10 days unexcused and you automatically flunked that class. But as long as they know how to spell their name, the marines will take them. Someone has to die for our freedom. That sucks because their are a lot of smart people in the service, that get killed in action and the dumb ones come home. But that's a whole different topic.

i went to council bluffs school and last 2 years i went to art class and drafting class.and ceramics class. then went home never went to any other classes and got a 60 in every class that i didn't go to ever ,,,,and passed ..now i know its bad, but i did have 2 jobs and lived on my own sense 16 but hey schools have been passing people that dont deserve it for years ,this was back in 1981, and i'm sure its just as bad now

The_Rowlands wrote:

look someone has to work at wal-mart and fast food joints...

lol.. pizzas don't deliver themselves

people gotta eat, right?

I agree that these systems are not for the betterment of society; however, I really think a lot of our nations problems start with PARENTS!!! Teachers can do very little if parents at home are not supporting them and forcing their kids to do their work.

back when i was in high school, i know to play ball we had to maintain a 75 average, and to walk at graduation was the same, but maybe that was just our school.

how long ago was that?

been a while back lol

well i know in my small ass school no homework was a 0 an to pass it was 75 an higher an to walk we had to pass all our classes that senior year. i am pretty sure nothing has changed cause they was like that when my mom graduated which was in 72 an when i graduated in 2003.
i am with allen though it is sad that our kids go through these school systems, an us parents at home thinking our kids are getting a good education but really they are not. i am the step father of 3 wonderful kids an that is one of my requirments for them to get anything from me an that is to pass all classes an not bring any grades home under a B. that was a rule set 6yrs ago an now all of them are on the honor roll for the last 4yrs.

Matt_Sibley wrote:

I agree that these systems are not for the betterment of society; however, I really think a lot of our nations problems start with PARENTS!!! Teachers can do very little if parents at home are not supporting them and forcing their kids to do their work.

True. Parents should teach their kids not just to pass but to excel.

put there home work on a x-box 360 or playstation3 there get it done with there eyes close

ya the way kids play nowadays is bad..every thing electric, what ever hapened to the good ole days when a stick and rocks is all a kid needed to have fun,,,

WHO BUYS THEM THE 360/WII ITS THE PARENTS WICH ARE ALSO TO BLAME BECAUSE IF THEY HADN'T REPRODUCED WE WOULDNT HAVE THIS CONVERSATION HUH

It's a byproduct of the social misconception... "all kids should go to college" "my kid's too good to be a janitor" "I need a $100,000 salary to be happy"

I think that most people age 25+ agree that:

1) The skills in the first few years of high school are not optional for 90% of daily activity. Balancing budgets, reading loan contracts, preparing food for a family, learning how to deal with people who are different from you... things NO ONE should be allowed to "skip".

2) Unless you're content being a baby factory (stud), a skill/trade is needed. That's either on-the-job or from a 2 year college. I personally think this is where 30-50% of Americans should be.

3) College or extensive training is required for ~20-30% of Americans
- high-level tasks requiring a theoretical analysis (doctors, engineers, teachers)
- management where a full understanding of psychology, economics, etc. is useful

4) Graduate school is needed for the 1-2% of people who require state-of-the-art knowledge, such as R&D engineers, surgeons, pharmacists, high-level management, and educators.

Moral of the story: Parents should push their kids to do what makes them happy. Amplifying a kid's strengths will lead to greater happiness than an unused degree.

now this i agree with parents tend to push kids to do what they have no interest in at all

i agree with you sanman ive seen many kids at my kids school doing stuff they didnt want to do just to make there parents happy....but i think they just need to bring back corperal punishment. i remember that paddle and my butt still hurts thinking about it.
kids werent as screwed up as this generation is.its sad to see these kids throwing there lives away.