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PostSubject: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeTue Mar 02, 2010 5:52 pm

hi guys, most of you don't know me, i competed in spl back in the 04-05 seasons and used to be very active on this forum, well i've decided its time for me to get back into spl comps, i've been reading up on the new class structures (well new to me), and i think i'm gonna give a shot at the trunk 0-1000 class since it doesn't look like it gets too much action here in mississippi. I remember some years back alot of amps were getting reclassed and outlawed, for me to start building a setup for the 1-1000 class, i don't wanna get an amp rated at 1000w @4ohms only to find out it has been outlawed or redefined, do any of you know where there maybe a current list of 0-1000 amps? some that i have looked at recently for that class is the xfire 4000d, and the RD D9, any help is appreciated, thanks guys.
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeTue Mar 02, 2010 5:58 pm

You can also use 2- 500@4ohm amps
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeTue Mar 02, 2010 6:02 pm

Yes i realized that too, but unless i can get a combo to develop more power than a single amp, i prefer a single amp since i will more than likely run a single sub. If not then i have to strap a pair of amps on a single sub. Until i do alot more digging into newer amps, etc, i haven't seen too many 500w @4ohm rated amps.
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeTue Mar 02, 2010 6:12 pm

2 will destroy a single amp
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeTue Mar 02, 2010 6:23 pm

well yea if i can find some nice 500w@4ohm amps that i can burp pretty low < .75 ohm without any issues

and yea i understand i have a lot or research and tons of catching up to do, which i don't mind and i enjoy, i just don't wanna find out i can't use an amp after i have bought it.
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeTue Mar 02, 2010 6:30 pm

ah, well i just found this list, but i don't know how up to date it is.
https://usaci.forumotion.com/announcements-f2/amplifiers-tested-and-re-rated-updated-09-21-2007-t1029.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeTue Mar 02, 2010 6:50 pm

2 rd d5's will beat 1 rd d9 !
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeTue Mar 02, 2010 7:02 pm

2 200.1's will beat 1 d9/memphis 4kw/ab 200.1.

.75 is easy with the right amount of rise Dung Pile .25 is easy
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeTue Mar 02, 2010 7:08 pm

sanman wrote:
2 200.1's will beat 1 d9/memphis 4kw/ab 200.1.

.75 is easy with the right amount of rise Dung Pile .25 is easy

Yes, times have changed there. Most of us expect good amps to Street beat @ .5ohms and burp @ .25-.35. A few people have pulled off burps at .175 even. Hell some people have street beated at .35 ohms.
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeTue Mar 02, 2010 7:10 pm

i strapped 2 500 watt amps at .25 on 18v in the past hehe
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeTue Mar 02, 2010 8:58 pm

im ready to give my d5's a ride!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeTue Mar 02, 2010 9:20 pm

oh, well thanks for a few suggestions, i'm gonna look into the RD stuff, i guess it came out while i was out of the leage playing with cars and stuff. i did see a little of the RD stuff in action though at scrapin the coast though- seems the D9 is a pop amp, or atleast was at that show.
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeTue Mar 02, 2010 10:12 pm

Word of advise. If you decide to go RD.. buy used..
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeWed Mar 03, 2010 12:09 am

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

smart advice
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeWed Mar 03, 2010 9:51 am

well i would probably buy my stuff from this forum anyways, i don't pay retail, and i don't want any products from the shops i have worked at.
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeWed Mar 03, 2010 10:17 am

RD...im loving it,ill post numbers soon.Me and Chilcotte is starting my build this weekend!
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeWed Mar 03, 2010 11:53 am

SQcrewcab wrote:
sanman wrote:
2 200.1's will beat 1 d9/memphis 4kw/ab 200.1.

.75 is easy with the right amount of rise Dung Pile .25 is easy

Yes, times have changed there. Most of us expect good amps to Street beat @ .5ohms and burp @ .25-.35. A few people have pulled off burps at .175 even. Hell some people have street beated at .35 ohms.


I street beat @ .25 ohm no problem. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2010 3:31 pm

Strap a pair of 20.1s. I know the rd is 500 watts and does more but the 20s are no joke either. 2- MMATS 3500.05 or 4000.05 work too but not strappable. Doesn't DB drive make a 500 watt amp too?
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2010 4:45 pm

How about 2 sundown saz-2000 s Rated power output
----RMS power, 2 ohm linkable/dual mono 4000W x1CH
----RMS power, 1 ohm mono 2000W x1C
----RMS power, 2 ohm mono 1000W x 1CH
----RMS power, 4 ohm mono 500W x 1CH

or 1 sundown audio saz-4500 Rated power output
----RMS power, 2 ohm linkable/dual mono 9000W x 1CH
----RMS power, 1 ohm mono 4500W x 1CH
----RMS power, 2 ohm mono 2000W x 1CH
----RMS power, 4 ohm mono 900W x 1CH
These ratings r all off of the sundown audio website and would prob have to b clarified to b legal
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2010 4:58 pm

1 sundown doesnt have a chance against the reated 500 watt amps ran in pairs
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2010 5:03 pm

sundown has a 500w amp that can b straped SAZ 2000
and i was just putting my 2 cents in anyway. The sundown products seem to stack up pretty well from what i have seen in other orgs.
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2010 5:25 pm

p_strouth wrote:
How about 2 sundown saz-2000 s Rated power output
----RMS power, 2 ohm linkable/dual mono 4000W x1CH
----RMS power, 1 ohm mono 2000W x1C
----RMS power, 2 ohm mono 1000W x 1CH
----RMS power, 4 ohm mono 500W x 1CH

or 1 sundown audio saz-4500 Rated power output
----RMS power, 2 ohm linkable/dual mono 9000W x 1CH
----RMS power, 1 ohm mono 4500W x 1CH
----RMS power, 2 ohm mono 2000W x 1CH
----RMS power, 4 ohm mono 900W x 1CH
These ratings r all off of the sundown audio website and would prob have to b clarified to b legal

Well based on the rules i remember from a few years ago, and i assume they still apply, then that ^^^ saz-4500 would be classed at 1,125w @4ohm due to the 1ohm mono rating for 4500w
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2010 5:33 pm

You are correct. Just like how 2 AQ 2200 aren't legal in 0-1000 anymore. I was looking at 2 Sundown SAZ-2000Ds myself but they are gonna be hard to find since they are discontinued and now Sundown is producing the SAZ-2500D in it's place
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2010 5:37 pm

thank you for the clarification on that how about
saz-3500 Rated power output
----RMS power, 2 ohm linkable/dual mono 7000W x 1CH
----RMS power, 1 ohm mono 3500W x 1CH
----RMS power, 2 ohm mono 1750W x 1CH
----RMS power, 4 ohm mono 750W x 1CH

i know these amps well and run mine daily at .5 still not tryn to ruffle any feathers just making some noise........
There are several SAZ 2000 out there does being discontinued make them illegal for use ?
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2010 5:41 pm

I don't see why that matters. It would be equivelent to running something like an old DD M3 or Z1
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PostSubject: Re: Amplifer power ratings   Amplifer power ratings Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2010 6:18 pm

nope doesnt make them not legal at all
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