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+5Skip01 shadescustomtint Stingraysevenout 2003f150 bassahaulic 9 posters |
How many of yalll hear the ohm load sound theory? | Yes | | 38% | [ 6 ] | No | | 62% | [ 10 ] |
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bassahaulic Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 727 Age : 32 Location : Central, Louisiana Registration date : 2008-07-30
| Subject: ohm load Stupidity ........ Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:38 am | |
| How many people have heard someone say that each ohm load has it own "sound". Like they say, that a 2 ohm load has a sound "deeper" then a 4 ohm load. And a 1 ohm load has the "deepest" sound of all? I hear this alot..... who else does? | |
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2003f150 Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 2610 Age : 41 Location : Biloxi,MS Registration date : 2007-09-12
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:40 am | |
| thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard. | |
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Stingraysevenout I own this joint!
Number of posts : 6002 Age : 51 Location : College Station Texas Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:50 am | |
| LOL THIS IS FUNNY... THEY ARE JUST SAYING WHEN HOOKED TO AN AMP MORE RESISTANCE AND LOWER YOU GO ON OHM LOAD YES IT HAS A DEEPER SOUND... MY QUESTION FOR THOSE PPL ARE HOW YOU HEAR SHITT WHEN ITS UNLOADED AND SITTIN ON A BENCH... WITH AN OHM METER? DOES IT BEEB DIFFERENT..LOL | |
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shadescustomtint Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1631 Location : Team Big'Un Registration date : 2007-11-28
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:31 pm | |
| BBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPP is 2 ohm and bp in 4 ohm I'm sure there is a dumbass that believes this theory olawd you wana buy some 2 ohm subs lol | |
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Skip01 Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 2099 Location : Marrero, LA Registration date : 2007-07-02
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:25 pm | |
| - bassahaulic wrote:
- How many people have heard someone say that each ohm load has it own "sound". Like they say, that a 2 ohm load has a sound "deeper" then a 4 ohm load. And a 1 ohm load has the "deepest" sound of all?
I hear this alot..... who else does? Perhaps it is because its getting more power at each lower interval....has nothing to do with how diff ohms sound diff But yes.....this is one of the dumbest things ive ever heard | |
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zacdavis Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 917 Age : 47 Registration date : 2007-06-28
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:36 pm | |
| Actually, its not a dumb question, believe it or not.
A person with a good ear can hear the difference from a particular amp when ran at different ohm loads. Before ya call me a jack azz let me explain.
With particular amplifiers, if the ohm load is decreased the damping factor of the amp can decrease. The low end response you hear at the woofer is, and can sound less controlled when the damping factor is lowered. | |
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bassahaulic Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 727 Age : 32 Location : Central, Louisiana Registration date : 2008-07-30
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:44 pm | |
| - zacdavis wrote:
- Actually, its not a dumb question, believe it or not.
A person with a good ear can hear the difference from a particular amp when ran at different ohm loads. Before ya call me a jack azz let me explain.
With particular amplifiers, if the ohm load is decreased the damping factor of the amp can decrease. The low end response you hear at the woofer is, and can sound less controlled when the damping factor is lowered. The people whom I hear this from are the people who say CVR's aren't 1 ohm stable......... And like Sony highs from walmart.. | |
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Stingraysevenout I own this joint!
Number of posts : 6002 Age : 51 Location : College Station Texas Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:49 pm | |
| Zac that is true kinda how i said it.... Now you tell me how not on an amp sitting on a bench with a meter you can hear tha difference? And the original question states checking ohm load and hearing difference so yes your right but what if on the bench unloaded..????????? I wont call ya crazy cause i know what you mean on the other but on bench without amp ... It must be what kieth said .... 1ohm beeeeeeeeep 2ohm beeeeep 4ohm beep...... My meter must be broke fool. | |
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bassahaulic Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 727 Age : 32 Location : Central, Louisiana Registration date : 2008-07-30
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:52 pm | |
| I hear this from people who wire a amp at four ohm with 2 Sony 12"s, then wire it down to 1 and say it is the ohm load that makes it sound diff, not the fact the amp itself starts playing differently..... | |
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Stingraysevenout I own this joint!
Number of posts : 6002 Age : 51 Location : College Station Texas Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:54 pm | |
| JUST DIRECT THEM TO OHMS LAW AND THEY MIGHT UNDERSTAND BETTER... THOSE GUYS ARE HALF WRONG AND HALF RIGHT. | |
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bassahaulic Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 727 Age : 32 Location : Central, Louisiana Registration date : 2008-07-30
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:57 pm | |
| I have tried...... they say the ohm loads base how the woofer sound....
I managed to save 1 person at my school, lol
Got him from Sony...... To Audio Que amp and a L7..... Told him not but he did. | |
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supadave Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 3745 Age : 42 Location : tupelo mississippi Registration date : 2008-02-28
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:42 pm | |
| sounds like you been on caraudio forums lol or your friends have one lol some of the info on there is helpful but all of it is just an opinion lol | |
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kicker3c10 Newbie
Number of posts : 35 Age : 32 Location : hernando Ms Registration date : 2008-12-10
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:01 am | |
| I agree with most of you guys, cause every time the ohms go up it splits power...right? | |
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bassahaulic Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 727 Age : 32 Location : Central, Louisiana Registration date : 2008-07-30
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:40 am | |
| Doesn't necessarily "split" but reduces power output. | |
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zacdavis Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 917 Age : 47 Registration date : 2007-06-28
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:58 pm | |
| - kicker3c10 wrote:
- I agree with most of you guys, cause every time the ohms go up it splits power...right?
"Ohm" is another word for resistance. Imagine your water faucet at home. As you open the valve more water flows out. The the further you open the valve, the more water there is. If it is open all the way there is no resistance and the water can flow without any restriction. Pretend that is .0 ohms because there is no resistance. You could also imagine as you close the valve the "ohm" increases...so as the water stops flowing the the ohm is increasing. The higher the number, the more resistance there is. An amplifier's output doesn't work exactly like a faucet flowing water but its a good analogy when explaining "Ohms" to your friends. | |
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kicker3c10 Newbie
Number of posts : 35 Age : 32 Location : hernando Ms Registration date : 2008-12-10
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:51 am | |
| I see ... the more resistance the amp carries the more stress gets put on the amp thus reducing power | |
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n-stereo Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 419 Registration date : 2007-11-18
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:46 am | |
| i have personally heard the difference with my equipment . the higher dampening factor to me is defiantly audible mainly if your comparing the extreme like 1 ohm to 8 ohm loads on an amp . or if your comparing a lower grade amp to a great amp with a much higher dampening factor. | |
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bassahaulic Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 727 Age : 32 Location : Central, Louisiana Registration date : 2008-07-30
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:22 pm | |
| I don't think yall see what i'm talking about, I know that as ohm loads go up and down it effects the output of the amp.
But the kids tell me, it is the ohm load itself that changes the sound. Not the amps output changing. | |
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zacdavis Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 917 Age : 47 Registration date : 2007-06-28
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:33 pm | |
| - zacdavis wrote:
"Ohm" is another word for resistance.
Imagine your water faucet at home. As you open the valve more water flows out. The the further you open the valve, the more water there is. If it is open all the way there is no resistance and the water can flow without any restriction. Pretend that is .0 ohms because there is no resistance. You could also imagine as you close the valve the "ohm" increases...so as the water stops flowing the the ohm is increasing. The higher the number, the more resistance there is.
An amplifier's output doesn't work exactly like a faucet flowing water but its a good analogy when explaining "Ohms" to your friends.
- kicker3c10 wrote:
- I see ... the more resistance the amp carries the more stress gets put on the amp thus reducing power
Actually, as the resistance is increased it does the opposite of "stress" on the amp. However your right, it does reduce the amp's power output but, that makes for "less" stress on the amp, not more. You've got it though, the lower the ohm load, the more power it releases. When the ohm load get dangerously low, there isnt enough resistance at the amp's output section, and it will blow up, thats stress haha... I suppose it's kind of like back pressure on a 2stroke engine. If you take the pipe off your dirt bike there won't be enough back pressure and it'll blow up. Ok not the best analogy but whatever, you already know how ohm loads work anyhow. Bassaholic, You were asking if a person can hear the difference...As N-Stereo just mentioned first hand, "Heck yes ya can". Damping factor and dynamic headroom both relate to sound quality, both can be compromised as an amplifier's ohm load is decreased. | |
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bassahaulic Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 727 Age : 32 Location : Central, Louisiana Registration date : 2008-07-30
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:41 pm | |
| I know you can hear the diff if you have a good ear, and know what to listen for.
But, your saying the kids with the 1000 watt sony amp, and 10" Memphis PR's can hear the diff? | |
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zacdavis Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 917 Age : 47 Registration date : 2007-06-28
| Subject: Re: ohm load Stupidity ........ Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:45 pm | |
| - bassahaulic wrote:
- I know you can hear the diff if you have a good ear, and know what to listen for.
But, your saying the kids with the 1000 watt sony amp, and 10" Memphis PR's can hear the diff? Absolutely!!! An easy way to explain the sound is the bass becomes muddy, less tight, less controlled, especially on the lower notes. | |
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