basic burp class for new ppl

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here is a new guy class idea I will add this just for ideas......so here we go and this will keep them separate from everything like msrp/max rms/clamp power ect

two years total no crxs or s-10 extended cabs (93 proir) other extended cabs must have equipment in passenger compartment
power class 0-600 one amp
one batt (800ci limit $400 max cost)
one run +/- total (1/0 wire)
up to 4 subs total any size
none of this 8,10 or 20 sub crap
one layer of sound deadener
one alt 14.7 max
all panels must be in/seats may be layed down or taken off of a trunk car that dont lay down (back rest only) no cutting on deck
b pillar rule stays and window line rule stays
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My question on this is what do you use for a refrence for pricing? Ebay is cheaper then retail do you use MSRP or retail or ebay pricing?

Crash wrote:

My question on this is what do you use for a refrence for pricing? Ebay is cheaper then retail do you use MSRP or retail or ebay pricing?

this class structure has nothoing to do with msrp I will remove it from my wording...

maybe move the power down to 0-250/0-500 to even drop cost down more for new ppl.... this will go with our current 4ohm structure that is not going to change lets face it.....lets hear why it wont work no crx/minis most bitched about thing solved....low power=less$ two year max=no vets

Tim Schaffer wrote:

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here is a new guy class idea I will add this just for ideas......so here we go and this will keep them seperate from everything like msrp/max rms/clamp power ect

two years total no crxs or s-10 extended cabs
power classes 0-500 one amp/0-1000 two amps
0-500=one batt/0-1000=two batts (800ci limit $400 max cost)
0-500=one run +/- 0-1000 two runs +/- total
0-500=4 subs max any size/0-1000=6 subs total any size
none of this 8,10 or 20 sub crap
one layer of sound deadener
one alt 14.7 max
all panels must be in/seats may be layed down or taken off of a trunk car that dont lay down (back rest only) no cutting on deck
b pillar rule stays and window line rule stays
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I like it, but personally would change it to one run of wire in both (normal people don't do multiple runs and with the equipment it shouldn't be needed. And two subs in 0-500 and 4 in 0-1000. Other than that I like it. That's just my two cents though.

Also include all extended cabs, rangers and others work okay also and allow for the same battery placement. Or go back to everything must be in the cabin for mini trucks.

mschwitz wrote:

Tim Schaffer wrote:

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here is a new guy class idea I will add this just for ideas......so here we go and this will keep them seperate from everything like msrp/max rms/clamp power ect

two years total no crxs or s-10 extended cabs
power classes 0-500 one amp/0-1000 two amps
0-500=one batt/0-1000=two batts (800ci limit $400 max cost)
0-500=one run +/- 0-1000 two runs +/- total
0-500=4 subs max any size/0-1000=6 subs total any size
none of this 8,10 or 20 sub crap
one layer of sound deadener
one alt 14.7 max
all panels must be in/seats may be layed down or taken off of a trunk car that dont lay down (back rest only) no cutting on deck
b pillar rule stays and window line rule stays
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I like it, but personally would change it to one run of wire in both (normal people don't do multiple runs and with the equipment it shouldn't be needed. And two subs in 0-500 and 4 in 0-1000. Other than that I like it. That's just my two cents though.

Also include all extended cabs, rangers and others work okay also and allow for the same battery placement. Or go back to everything must be in the cabin for mini trucks.

made adjustments what ya think

If you single out EXT cab s10's why not ext cab rangers and then why not any other mini ext cab truck? Is there a reason to single out just the s10 of all ext cab trucks?

yes the two most bitched about cars by the new ppl are crxs and pre 93 s-10 ext cab if there is going to be a starter class then there should not be either of these cars in it (level the playing field)

fixed done let it rip

Crash wrote:

If you single out EXT cab s10's why not ext cab rangers and then why not any other mini ext cab truck? Is there a reason to single out just the s10 of all ext cab trucks?

most of the others have not been used as much and the common knowledge has not been passed along as much this will open the doors for ppl to work at a diff kinds of cars and who knows they might find the new magic car or lots of cars that are close to each other

I vote yes, but the s10 crx thing I dont like, lot of people own these autos and to say hey! you can be a newbie cause you have a s10 or a crx in my opinion is not fair.......my 02

you might have a point..... all crxs need panels in and box has to be 10 in back from b pillar and s-10s have all panels in and cannot use bed but i would like to hear opinions...and lets change power to 0-600 that way if they choose to move to stock no need to get a diff amp

wow an s10 can not have the same usable room as an s10 hmmmmmmmmmm i smell a rat now

sanman wrote:

wow an s10 can not have the same usable room as an s10 hmmmmmmmmmm i smell a rat now

s-10 and s-10 what missing something

ok crx

how...(just ideas) both need panels in s-10 no bed use but the crx has to have the box 10in back from the b pillar...and with only using 1 amp and 1 batt how do you need that much room anyway????? this is just for a basic/starter class....(but I really think both should not be in the class anyway but just ideas)

now crx with all equipment including box behind strut tower bar ill agree

sanman wrote:

now crx with all equipment including box behind strut tower bar ill agree

wow thats hard to do

well not to be an ass but i can get 6-8 batts in the crx with the amount of area your talking about an s10 there is no way

understand but for new ppl they dont need all that shiit one batt total one amp

Tim Schaffer wrote:

sanman wrote:

now crx with all equipment including box behind strut tower bar ill agree

wow thats hard to do

and I meant you agreeing with me
but I still think both should not be in that class to make it more open for new ppl......guys with a rex or a s-10 ext cab should be able to roll in stock and get help from other ppl and do better than your local joe with his chevy malibu

I think a trunk class would really boost attendance at show's. They will have a certain % of people that will get hooked on comps and will make the adjustments to move up. That's what happen to me years ago. Helping the newbie out and starting a trunk class imo will boost the organization.

RichieRich wrote:

I think a trunk class would really boost attendance at show's. They will have a certain % of people that will get hooked on comps and will make the adjustments to move up. That's what happen to me years ago. Helping the newbie out and starting a trunk class imo will boost the organization.

Amen.. Trunk class FTW