4ohm amp ratings

here is something most will dislike but be fair for everyone and prob be able to pull more company support. since we cert. the amps at 4ohm why do we run the amps at 4ohms that will not cost anyone cash. if not we should test the amps dif no reason to have amps do no power at 4 ohms then drop em all the way down to .25 just to get power. i allready know start hatn

Lol. James lets just the roll the dice to decide who wins. LOL.

Like I said before 4 ohm rating is a joke.... there is NO ONE the goes in to a car audio store and ask for the 4 ohm rating.. the 4ohm rating is SO dated!

Customers buy amps from my shop based on my recommendations. It depends on amp and sub combo. If some people are using usaci to sell amps for them, I feel sorry for them. If 4 ohms is a joke, I don't see why all amp manufacturer is using it. Look at other org where there are no power limit, what kind of amps is being used? Everyone is using big power amps. I don't think anyone of them is cheap.

What about subs? I don't see some of the subwoofer company do anykind of usaci sponsorship.

With all the bs going on will cause some people to leave this org. This is not the direction we want to go.

do you ever sell an amp @ 4 ohm rating with no other power rating?

nope thats why usac tests it at 4,2,1 ohm if it more than doubles its not a legit amp and it fails

Sometimes. It based on the imp the amp will see on a daily basis. Not much sub amp plays daily below 2 ohms cont. I don't see anyone running around playing cont. at lower imp.

my point is it is dumb for a 4ohm rating

i think if we change power classes it should go back to 0 150, 151 300, 301 600, 601 +, alteast should bring the price back down a bit

gameoverstreeta wrote:

my point is it is dumb for a 4ohm rating

i think if we change power classes it should go back to 0 150, 151 300, 301 600, 601 +, alteast should bring the price back down a bit

he has spoke!!! Amen

gameoverstreeta wrote:

my point is it is dumb for a 4ohm rating

i think if we change power classes it should go back to 0 150, 151 300, 301 600, 601 +, alteast should bring the price back down a bit

Then there would be a 150 watt amp that sells for $4500, does .02 ohms, and produces 12,000 watts at 17.9 volts.

Trust me, it would take less than one month.

thats why we should do true pwr

gameoverstreeta wrote:

my point is it is dumb for a 4ohm rating

i think if we change power classes it should go back to 0 150, 151 300, 301 600, 601 +, alteast should bring the price back down a bit

I agree with this.

trunk class would only help too but hell what do i know

I like the 6 woofers in the truck with a lighter and the same without. The lighter has a distinct effect on SPL as it changes the space available in the vehicle, thus effecting mass, and in turn making the internal pressure multiply at a decidedly different rate....


Ya think?


seriously, we need to trim classes. When you have more classes then cars at a show something is not right.

USACI wrote:

I like the 6 woofers in the truck with a lighter and the same without. The lighter has a distinct effect on SPL as it changes the space available in the vehicle, thus effecting mass, and in turn making the internal pressure multiply at a decidedly different rate....


Ya think?


seriously, we need to trim classes. When you have more classes then cars at a show something is not right.

TRUE THAT

USACI wrote:

I like the 6 woofers in the truck with a lighter and the same without. The lighter has a distinct effect on SPL as it changes the space available in the vehicle, thus effecting mass, and in turn making the internal pressure multiply at a decidedly different rate....


Ya think?


seriously, we need to trim classes. When you have more classes then cars at a show something is not right.

true

USACI wrote:

gameoverstreeta wrote:

my point is it is dumb for a 4ohm rating

i think if we change power classes it should go back to 0 150, 151 300, 301 600, 601 +, alteast should bring the price back down a bit

Then there would be a 150 watt amp that sells for $4500, does .02 ohms, and produces 12,000 watts at 17.9 volts.

Trust me, it would take less than one month.

i agree man. i just think there might be a better way im really not sure how i wish i had and answer and ive been running it around in my head. i would think 3 classes of pro stock and stock would be fine for sure

What Ralph has proposed is a good start. Minus the limits in Prostock....

At the beggining of this last season Myself and a few others asked him to keep prostock the same 1 more year to prove we could draw more ppl into prostock so keep the 4 classes... We didn't come through for him and the deal was he was going to trim it back..... My thought and fix is this.

Keep Mod , Supermod, Stock and all other classes the same as last year and Drop prostock down to 3 classes as follows

Prostock

0-600 Stock batt plus 2, 1amp, 18v

601-3000 unlimmited batts, 6 amps, 18v

3001 plus unlimmited bats , unlimmited amps , 18v


THEN LEAVE ALL OTHER CLASSES SAME AS 07 SIMPLE FIX AND REALLY IS THE ONLY CLASS THAT NEEDS TRIMMING ... HONESTLY RALPH LOOK AT YOUR SHOW RESULTS STOCK, MOD , AND SB IS WERE EVERYONE PLAYS.... SO TRIM US ONLY AND US THAT FORMAT IM SURE MOST WILL BE HAPPY WITH IT... OR ILL PUT UP ANOTHER POLL

limit the batts in ALL stock classes! and open up the stupid rule about comercial vehicles in stock classes

KickerRex wrote:

thats why we should do true pwr

I apologize for taking up the space to ask stupid questions, but where do we obtain "true power" ratings so that we properly and fairly place a competitor in a power class? I am not asking this question fecitiously, I really don't know.

since we seem to be on the issue of stock whats stock about adding a bunch of subs more batteries than the car came with and a bunch of 0 gage wire this doesnt sound stock to me at all.

bottom line is my crx dont hold as many batts as an s10 blah blah blah cry me a friggen river.

sanman wrote:

since we seem to be on the issue of stock whats stock about adding a bunch of subs more batteries than the car came with and a bunch of 0 gage wire this doesnt sound stock to me at all.

bottom line is my crx dont hold as many batts as an s10 blah blah blah cry me a friggen river.

how does a 4ohm rating turn in to mycrx vs your s10.

i will also be for less subs and less bats and less power wire. to me less is better cause more people could compeat i would even be for max of 4 amps in street classes even unlimmited.

Mike Jaffe wrote:

KickerRex wrote:

thats why we should do true pwr

I apologize for taking up the space to ask stupid questions, but where do we obtain "true power" ratings so that we properly and fairly place a competitor in a power class? I am not asking this question fecitiously, I really don't know.

We cant really. So why even bother changing a damn thing. we might as well just leave everything the same.

Leave the 4ohm rating system be. Theres nothing we can do to "even" the playing field. Each year there'll be some manufacturer's amp that's designed around our rules that will dominate, regardless of how/where we rate amps at.