Class Matrix

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Street Beat 1 Unlimited Limited * Unlimited Unlimited 1 14.9 Max 1200
Street Beat 2 Unlimited Limited * Unlimited Unlimited 1 14.9 Max 1200
Street Beat 3 Unlimited Limited * Unlimited Unlimited 1 14.9 Max 1200
Street Beat 4 Unlimited Limited * Unlimited Unlimited 1 14.9 Max 1200
Street Beat 5 Unlimited Limited * Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 1200

Stock 0-1000 2 No 1 + Stock Unlimited Unlimited 14.9 Max 1200
Stock 1001-2000 4 No 2 + Stock Unlimited Unlimited 14.9 Max 1200
Stock 2001-4000 6 No 3 + Stock Unlimited Unlimited 14.9 Max 1200
Stock 4001-Up Unlimited No Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 14.9 Max 1200
Pro Stock 0-1000 2 No 1 + Stock Unlimited Unlimited 18 Max 1200
Pro Stock 1001-2000 4 No 2 + Stock Unlimited Unlimited 18 Max 1200
Pro Stock 2001-up Unlimited No Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 Max 1200
Modified 0-1000 2 Behind B Pillar Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 Max 1200
Modified 1001-2000 4 Behind B Pillar Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 Max 1200
Modified 2001-4000 6 Behind B Pillar Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 Max 1200
Modified 4001-Up Unlimited Behind B Pillar Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 Max 1200
Super Modified 0-2000 4 Yes Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 Max 1200
Super Modified 2001-up Unlimited Yes Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 Max 1200
Port Wars (Open) Unlimited Yes Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 Max 1200
Super Port Wars (Open) Unlimited Yes Unlimited Unlimited Unlimited 18 Max 1200

USACI wrote:

bruce-bruce wrote:

Will this be an official "must use disc"?

that is the plan. willmeet resistance though. Jaffe? you there ? LOL

Jaffe already stated that he didn't give a damn either way. Why should I resist? No pain, no strain on me.

TECH114 wrote:

Mod 2001-4000 went from 8 amps to 6 amps..

I just noticed this. Wow

Ralph I understand trying to reconfig the classes to accomadate the needs and wants of Usaci but 6 amps in 2-4 mod?????????We just got the eight figured out It would be great if you would consider leaving Team Big 'Uns class alone lol And good change on the Batts by If it aint broke don't fix it

Battery limits in pro???? Are you kidding??? At least give us 4 minimum in 0-1000. More would be better though.

Am I reading the steet beat classes right ... are they all unlimited woofers and amps?

give reasons and examples so ralph can understand our concerns.

no its unlimited amps/alts/caps

sb1 is still defined by subs

Just leave the Stock, PS, Mod classes they why they are for at least one more year. I didn't see any problem with them. Competitors and manufacturers were starting to get used to them. Plus it costs competitors and manufacturers money to keep changing. It isn't broke!!!!!!!!

If you are going to change anything, change the way you place amps in your classes.
Rate the amps based on MAX POWER!!!!!!! Support the industry, Retailers, and competitors!!!!! Make Usaci much easier to compete in. All any and all amps to be competitive in Usaci. All manufacturers sell amps based on MAX POWER. No one walks into an Audio store asking what the rating is at 4 ohms. They want to know what the MAX POWER IT DOES!!!!!!!
MAX POWER
MAX POWER
MAX POWER

Allow any and all amps to be competitive. Kicker, JL, Rockford, DD, American Bass, Pyramid, Legacy, DB Drive, Cactus, etc., etc., etc., Gain back the manufacturers support by allowing their amps to be competitive in USACI.

Ralph, You have a test bench to test for power at 4,2,1,.5 ohm. YOU CAN TEST FOR MAX POWER.

Again, AMPS ARE SOLD BY THEIR MAX POWER that they produce.

It's that simple.

I dont like the idea of SB disc being forced at local shows, finals i have no problem

But local shows i love playing normal music for my run that gets the fans into it

Skip01 wrote:

I dont like the idea of SB disc being forced at local shows, finals i have no problem

But local shows i love playing normal music for my run that gets the fans into it

You have fans.

Skip01 wrote:

I dont like the idea of SB disc being forced at local shows, finals i have no problem

But local shows i love playing normal music for my run that gets the fans into it

You can't only use it at finals. you need to see it through all year

Kicker Kevin wrote:

Just leave the Stock, PS, Mod classes they why they are for at least one more year. I didn't see any problem with them. Competitors and manufacturers were starting to get used to them. Plus it costs competitors and manufacturers money to keep changing. It isn't broke!!!!!!!!

If you are going to change anything, change the way you place amps in your classes.
Rate the amps based on MAX POWER!!!!!!! Support the industry, Retailers, and competitors!!!!! Make Usaci much easier to compete in. All any and all amps to be competitive in Usaci. All manufacturers sell amps based on MAX POWER. No one walks into an Audio store asking what the rating is at 4 ohms. They want to know what the MAX POWER IT DOES!!!!!!!
MAX POWER
MAX POWER
MAX POWER

Allow any and all amps to be competitive. Kicker, JL, Rockford, DD, American Bass, Pyramid, Legacy, DB Drive, Cactus, etc., etc., etc., Gain back the manufacturers support by allowing their amps to be competitive in USACI.

Ralph, You have a test bench to test for power at 4,2,1,.5 ohm. YOU CAN TEST FOR MAX POWER.

Again, AMPS ARE SOLD BY THEIR MAX POWER that they produce.

It's that simple.

Many companies refuse to make amps that fit the Usaci Rating system and you have lost their support.
They make amps and they sell them based on the maximum output power that the amp will produce and everyday consumers will purchase and use.

ok lets HELP ralph some one start a poll for prostock battery limits , let him look at this on monday that way no-one can "Female dog" later . he is open minded and open to our concerns , if you dont vote dont "Female dog" later.

ain't you the one in the black dodge

memphis_yota wrote:

Skip01 wrote:

I dont like the idea of SB disc being forced at local shows, finals i have no problem

But local shows i love playing normal music for my run that gets the fans into it

You have fans.

More of a following than random fans

mod4000 wrote:

Skip01 wrote:

I dont like the idea of SB disc being forced at local shows, finals i have no problem

But local shows i love playing normal music for my run that gets the fans into it

You can't only use it at finals. you need to see it through all year

well it only be enforced for finals...it be an option during the season

Skip01 wrote:

memphis_yota wrote:

Skip01 wrote:

I dont like the idea of SB disc being forced at local shows, finals i have no problem

But local shows i love playing normal music for my run that gets the fans into it

You have fans.

More of a following than random fans

You have the black dodge right

rob give me a call 712-299-7244 mark

Skip01 wrote:

memphis_yota wrote:

Skip01 wrote:

I dont like the idea of SB disc being forced at local shows, finals i have no problem

But local shows i love playing normal music for my run that gets the fans into it

You have fans.

More of a following than random fans

Then maybe they'll understand.

mod4000 wrote:

Skip01 wrote:

memphis_yota wrote:

Skip01 wrote:

I dont like the idea of SB disc being forced at local shows, finals i have no problem

But local shows i love playing normal music for my run that gets the fans into it

You have fans.

More of a following than random fans

You have the black dodge right

Nope

memphis_yota wrote:

Skip01 wrote:

memphis_yota wrote:

Skip01 wrote:

I dont like the idea of SB disc being forced at local shows, finals i have no problem

But local shows i love playing normal music for my run that gets the fans into it

You have fans.

More of a following than random fans

Then maybe they'll understand.

Or cry.....

Skip01 wrote:

mod4000 wrote:

Skip01 wrote:

I dont like the idea of SB disc being forced at local shows, finals i have no problem

But local shows i love playing normal music for my run that gets the fans into it

You can't only use it at finals. you need to see it through all year

well it only be enforced for finals...it be an option during the season

You can't do that. thats like letting PS guys run all year in stock but not at fiansl

the battery limit in the small classes is cool makes ya have to work for it

taz wrote:

ok lets HELP ralph some one start a poll for prostock battery limits , let him look at this on monday that way no-one can "Female dog" later . he is open minded and open to our concerns , if you dont vote dont "Female dog" later.

Well said...

i agree with Timmy..

unlimited alts is still sb5 only right??? Should be interesting with said disc for street beat. Wonder what scores will be??

2003f150 wrote:

unlimited alts is still sb5 only right??? Should be interesting with said disc for street beat. Wonder what scores will be??

scores might be lower but im sure results will be the same for most.

Well i will say im very proud of most of you.... ya kept it real didn't "Female dog" said your piece and look he has adjusted stuff accordingly to a majority ... Anyone notice this? Hmmmmm may be on to something.

Kevin try to be a little more positive give valid reason in a manner like all of us have and he may look into it... threatning and pointing aint gonna get him to listen ... I would have thought everyone would have figured this out finally guess not... Not starting anything cause that would just ruin this whole post ...

Although i would still like to see prostock on unlimited batts i like the rest of it. I understand moving and making prostock smaller cause we didn't fullfil our promise to fill it last year... He gave us a chance . But drop it to three classes like you have it now and take batt limits out. JUST IN PRO.....

usaci is getting a little rediculus. changing classes every 2 years. screwing over sponsors who specifically built amps for usac. why not make little changes that needed to be made instead of changing everything?