12v motor to spin alts

i was thinking of using a 12v motor in rear of the van and weld a pulley on it to spin my alts instead of mounting them all under the hood would this be legal ... the 12v motor will be powered by the vans power. and not a external source. so i think it is legal to do so just not to sure ...

I think you would be going against physics with that, because you would be trying to charge the same batteries that you are powering it with.

Gerald Kirkland???????????

Notice, it still sports the four hydraulic powered alternators

well im not sure but if its not in the factory location or under the hood im thinkinh you may be considered supermod man you may wanna check on this but I dont think its an issue for street beat

Quad said back in the day the Hifonics Blazer ran that way, as long as the main motor drives the system why not?

donno stock location keeps coming to mind is all its better to call the office and get clarification on it before you show up and cant use it though

idbl_fanatic wrote:

I think you would be going against physics with that, because you would be trying to charge the same batteries that you are powering it with.

12v bats running the alts to charge the 16v bats not the same bats

That's a very odd setup and would be very cost inefficient, what is the purpose for trying this? It seems it would take a great deal of reserve 12v power to run a 16v alt. but could be done

The_Rowlands wrote:

idbl_fanatic wrote:

I think you would be going against physics with that, because you would be trying to charge the same batteries that you are powering it with.

12v bats running the alts to charge the 16v bats not the same bats

AHHH ok, then that makes sense.

well...being able to have multiple alts means that they dont have to be in stock location..and this is a great idea and it will work very easily...using maybe 30 amps but then making (dependent on how many and how big your alts are) 300-1200 amps

I see it almost impossible to turn 30 12v amps into 300-1200 16v amps. Do you have any info on a setup like that? Why would this technology not be furthered to produce higher electrical means in other fields if it is being done?
The Hifonics setup was quite creative though. Today it would not cost much to recreate.

You could use 1 motor to spin like 4 alts, so then the alts producing power should in theory, be more then the power it take to spin them.

But also sounds to good to be true. Try it and tell us!!

bassahaulic wrote:

You could use 1 motor to spin like 4 alts, so then the alts producing power should in theory, be more then the power it take to spin them.

But also sounds to good to be true. Try it and tell us!!

Yes one motor cold spin 4 alts, BUT..... You lose power and efficiency through every step, resulting in a config that is inpracticable.

1. lose of power running motor
2. lose of power though drive system (pulleys and belts)
3. lose of power turning alts. (2 or 3 of them at that)

On top of this your trying to use less power (12v) to make more power (16v). Come on now, Ive said to much to explain so little. It Aint Gunna Work.

i would run that 12v motor off of the stock alt or aftermarket 12v alt to power the 4 alts that are 16v alts to then power...it would and will work ...two seperate charging systems...

and S.L.A.B. the 12v is just to run the motor that will then turn the pulley to turn the 16v alts...this will work...just like a motor running a pulley to an auger it will work

Yes it could sorta be done, but be very very inefficient. You would have to have a large 12v battery bank for reserve or configure a 24v drive system with 12v alt charging them turning the 16v alts. Have we complicate4d this enough yet?
By the time and money you spend configuring a 12v drive system to power 16v alt people would being staring at you standing by yourself laughing like a mad scientist hollaring I Did It I Did It mauh hhahahaha. Its simply not practicable.
Driving a couple of 16v alts will take one fast spinning or overdriven motor. Now you have to consider the torque/HP it will take to sustain this translating to Mega 12v Amps. Your simple engine driven 12v alt will not sustain to the amperage draw.
It takes power to make power, when you try to make higher voltage with lesser voltage you need a huge supply of the lower to do so. Again and again this is simply not practicable. The Hifonics Hydraulic system is the best bet and easily done.

i agree...no eff. at all what so ever...just saying it could work lol...our minds like alike bud

Physics 101. Perpetual motion does not exist. Not possible..... Will always draw more power than it makes....

rowland, get the boy back there and hook up an exercise bike to them, problem solved

No man put fan blades on the alts and put em in front the ports! Be Bumpin And Chergin son

USACI wrote:

Perpetual motion does not exist. Not possible..... Will always draw more power than it makes....

That's what I was trying to say in the 1st post........ LOL thanks Ralph