What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors

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As it says. Show turn outs are way down. The old big boys are still around. What can be done to get the new guys into Usaci again? I know this has been brought up before, but seriously, we need to do something to get new competitors or this will die out in a few years. Promoters aren't going to keep doing shows with the turnouts we have been getting the last two years. What can Usaci do or what as competitors can we do to get new blood in the sport?

hey magoo can i get that last statement broke down man cause im not up to speed on iowa ebonics man lol

i say if u cheat u should be banned the first offence 4 eva

ibbangin wrote:

i say if u cheat u should be banned the first offence 4 eva

this is just caraudio. do you get paid to do this?

ibbangin wrote:

i say if u cheat u should be banned the first offence 4 eva

i agree to some degree.

OUCH..... NOW THATS. WOW

I didnt know there was a bunch of cheaters in this sport "off with their heads" lol

I know quit whining on the forum that'll bring new people to the sport

aphinney wrote:

agreed...i think team sweep is doin the best at this you speak of..

we try...if you can help the new ppl by talking with them and offering tips looking at the car ect ect. that helps more then you know. and if you do get lucky and find diehard new ppl at shows put them under your wing show them the ropes hell they might end up better than the teacher lol

[quote="aphinney"]i have sportsmanship ....lol ask tim s. last year at finals what we did for eachother and we were beating up against eachother in the same damn class....

XFL-Leader wrote:

2. Retail involvement. I believe it begins with the Retailer. If the local shops are not into competition and are not promoting sound offs. Then the custumers don't know anything about it. Even if the local shops have to work together.

This is why we came up with the SOUNDBEAT OFF's. They're open format, not pressure on the kids. If the line isn't huge behind them they may run 6 or more times in a row, to get the hang of it, find their note etc. Then they will go run their car (charge) and come back through later to see what they can really do. Others will swap boxes with friends, swap amps, pull back seats, u name it . All having a good time, sharing ideas and getting excited about what we do. If you have a meter, a mic and a speaker (PA) you can have a show like this. Then when they come to a USACi show they know what to expect, have an idea of what they are capable of and hopefully have a good time.

Even though I have never done them, local classes are probably the way to go. Trunk, stock, mod, sb. 4 simple classes. Small trophies, small entry fee and let them aspire to compete in the regular classes. Year ago we ran a 'virgin' class. you could only compete in it once. You were only allowed in it had NEVER competed before. A true virgin. Unlike what many women may think, you can only be a virgin once. Your vriginity never comes back so once and only once. EVERY winner in that class went on to spend a good chunk of change with the store. I forgot all about that. I may have to bring it back next year.

OK I am done rambling. My main point was to reinforce that if we, the retailers, do not get involved it's not going to work. The calsses can be changed a billionty times, but without us getting our hands dirty, without us showing the new kids that this is fun, that we care, they will never come back, they will never bring their friends out. We generate the excitement, we have to show them it's fun & cool to do what we do.

Tim Schaffer wrote:

aphinney wrote:

agreed...i think team sweep is doin the best at this you speak of..

we try...if you can help the new ppl by talking with them and offering tips looking at the car ect ect. that helps more then you know. and if you do get lucky and find diehard new ppl at shows put them under your wing show them the ropes hell they might end up better than the teacher lol

tragicsounds wrote:

Tim Schaffer wrote:

aphinney wrote:

agreed...i think team sweep is doin the best at this you speak of..

we try...if you can help the new ppl by talking with them and offering tips looking at the car ect ect. that helps more then you know. and if you do get lucky and find diehard new ppl at shows put them under your wing show them the ropes hell they might end up better than the teacher lol

Greg McCool wrote:

tragicsounds wrote:

Tim Schaffer wrote:

aphinney wrote:

agreed...i think team sweep is doin the best at this you speak of..

we try...if you can help the new ppl by talking with them and offering tips looking at the car ect ect. that helps more then you know. and if you do get lucky and find diehard new ppl at shows put them under your wing show them the ropes hell they might end up better than the teacher lol

I was a first Year competitor back in 2005. Competed all year and even went to finals and hated every minute I was at the show. Let's see I was cheated at Final's because the lady that was running the mic in my lane had changed the value setting on the mic and cost me a second place. Then they let the person that gor first run cheater amps in that class to where noone could beat them. I was accused of cheating one time because i was trying to run a single cab pick-up with a box that was just behind the rear mounting bolts and I ended up achiving a score of an 150.5 and was told i could not run it anymore because it wasn't legal. I just got feed up with all the BS that was involved in running id USACI, so I haven't competed with them since. I just wish it could be alot better and fair sport for everyone to do. I love Spl but if I have to be stressed out and angry with it all the time then there is no sense in being in the sport. Another thing about it of why I quit is there were never any shows that were close to me. The closes one was about 4 hours away and the way gas is right now I would have to take out a bank just to compete again. I hope this may help some of ya'll. All I am trying to say is get rid of all the cheaters, actually follow the rules and do what you say you are going to do, verify the equipment, and make sure everyone is were they are suppose to be.
P.S as for the CRX's i love a good challenge because if I were to get back in it I think I could give them a run for their money and no I don't own a S-10 either. I have 1 sub with 1 battery and stock alternator and doing numbers around 153db's so pound for pound I could beat some of the CRX's . OK I will quit venting out. Maybe I will see you guy's in the future

We hope so and bring this car or vehicle you are talking about

id say i do what phinney and magoo is talkin bout too...........i help just about every kid that comes and asks me for help and am more than happy to explain things to them if need be and help troubleshoot their problems........i know bill and danny both do the same thing as well as a few of our other guys

CRX's from strut tower and back or allow box to l come to b pillar in all hatch backs.

I like that idea USACI MD. sounds fair to me. Why should they be the only one's who can fit 6 subs in a hatch.

yes it was a fare format for b. stock when it was there

2 12's still almost did 156 though lol

point being you can limit what ever you want to people will still get any vehicle loud no matter what. There will always be certain people that can get what they use loud no matter how limiting the rules get, and others will always complain about it for they cant do the same.

sanman wrote:

point being you can limit what ever you want to people will still get any vehicle loud no matter what. There will always be certain people that can get what they use loud no matter how limiting the rules get, and others will always complain about it for they cant do the same.

theres always a way just like you said you just got to find it and test it

well i can tell ya right now...that numbers wouldnt change if that is the new rule....

USACI MD wrote:

CRX's from strut tower and back or allow box to l come to b pillar in all hatch backs.

If you did that you must make all mini's have ALL equipment in the truck(nothing in the bed).

i agree with greg on that one myself fare is fare both should have the same amount of usable room

Greg McCool wrote:

USACI MD wrote:

CRX's from strut tower and back or allow box to l come to b pillar in all hatch backs.

If you did that you must make all mini's have ALL equipment in the truck(nothing in the bed).

X100

1. Stop bickering with each other.

2. stop making major changes to the rules every year. Imagine if they did that in any other sport.

3. Make a "Crowning Event". World finals the way it is, is kinda just like another comp that people have to drive far as hell to reach. Pay real cash prizes(x000's) and have real press coverage(you may have to pay for this(Audio magazines). Have the world finals on G4 or some other cable outlet.

4. Have a spokes person or ambassador of the sport. One that can speak intelligently and fluently.

5. and lastly, remember this is a niche sport(or engineering exercise). It is never going to have widespread appeal. Treat each other with respect and have some dignity in the way you carry yourselves. This is the most important thing of all.

Peace

gignmofo wrote:

1. Stop bickering with each other.

2. stop making major changes to the rules every year. Imagine if they did that in any other sport.

3. Make a "Crowning Event". World finals the way it is, is kinda just like another comp that people have to drive far as hell to reach. Pay real cash prizes(x000's) and have real press coverage(you may have to pay for this(Audio magazines). Have the world finals on G4 or some other cable outlet.

4. Have a spokes person or ambassador of the sport. One that can speak intelligently and fluently.

5. and lastly, remember this is a niche sport(or engineering exercise). It is never going to have widespread appeal. Treat each other with respect and have some dignity in the way you carry yourselves. This is the most important thing of all.

Peace

sanman wrote:

i agree with greg on that one myself fare is fare both should have the same amount of usable room

much respect on that post sanman....much respect

in b. stock of course