What can Usaci do to bring in new competitors

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As it says. Show turn outs are way down. The old big boys are still around. What can be done to get the new guys into Usaci again? I know this has been brought up before, but seriously, we need to do something to get new competitors or this will die out in a few years. Promoters aren't going to keep doing shows with the turnouts we have been getting the last two years. What can Usaci do or what as competitors can we do to get new blood in the sport?

i can do close to same numbers if not louder behind the strut towers done tested that.......upwards of 156's with one 12 and one amp especially in a car that aint broke evry which way and direction

Stop all the BS fighting and get in the lane.

gignmofo wrote:

1. Stop bickering with each other.

2. stop making major changes to the rules every year. Imagine if they did that in any other sport.

3. Make a "Crowning Event". World finals the way it is, is kinda just like another comp that people have to drive far as hell to reach. Pay real cash prizes(x000's) and have real press coverage(you may have to pay for this(Audio magazines). Have the world finals on G4 or some other cable outlet.

4. Have a spokes person or ambassador of the sport. One that can speak intelligently and fluently.

5. and lastly, remember this is a niche sport(or engineering exercise). It is never going to have widespread appeal. Treat each other with respect and have some dignity in the way you carry yourselves. This is the most important thing of all.

Peace

WOW u got my vote

HellRzR wrote:

Magoo wrote:

This may upset even my own teammates but I think crxs need their own class. I think rules need 2 b looked at and adjusted n some areas. a crx only class with no crx allowd in other classes

this will not solve anything, next you will want to do the same for s10s. ppl will find other vehicles to dominate with so banning crxs from classes not a solution. like asked for before get a trunk class would be a good start

im old and lazy and havent read all the replies on this topic so maybe some one has already said what im about to, and it may be a lil off subject too. i notice that stock division classes are dominated by a. crxs and b. s10/xcab minitrucks , so maybe a class for 2 seat stock such as the above two as well as vettes and a cpl other lil sports cars, then a 4 seat stock class. not sure thatll help get more ppl into the sport, but it'll definately open up some 1st place spots for other vehicles besides rexs and s10s. on the topic of trunk class, would u be allowed to cut the deck out or would that be mod trunk?...hehe

yes cutting it out would have to be in mod come on man thats mod. If their was a trunk class and we r aimming to get new ppl in you dont alter it like that. If its a trunk class you have a trunk not a cut threw or what ever you would call it. The seats would still have to be in it and lock in the up postion and still be usable for passengers. You go letting stuff like cut threw or cut outs and you just going to scare the new guy off when he sees it

i see crx's form sale on ebay every day as well as s10's everyone can buy one lol if you think thats what is necassary to be competitive but i dont think so

there is a certain toyota thats also loud as well and gets about 45mpg there ya go family guys who wanna compete also now you have a fare shake I mean hell yall pump out kids where you need 4 door cars the toyota yaris is the one for you.

crying ass bitches

i got a crx, $900

gignmofo wrote:

1. Stop bickering with each other.

2. stop making major changes to the rules every year. Imagine if they did that in any other sport.

3. Make a "Crowning Event". World finals the way it is, is kinda just like another comp that people have to drive far as hell to reach. Pay real cash prizes(x000's) and have real press coverage(you may have to pay for this(Audio magazines). Have the world finals on G4 or some other cable outlet.

4. Have a spokes person or ambassador of the sport. One that can speak intelligently and fluently.

5. and lastly, remember this is a niche sport(or engineering exercise). It is never going to have widespread appeal. Treat each other with respect and have some dignity in the way you carry yourselves. This is the most important thing of all.

Peace

1----For sure!!!

2----Many sports change the rules every year. sometimes drastically

3----Need money in to give money out. As of late I know money in hasn't been very good.

4----If you are going to make fun of Darville, you have to call him out by name.

5----AMEN!!

i just talked to someone i went to school with and he wants to compete but the biggest thing he said that keeps him out is the cost to enter. now he has competed in some local usaci events but has never joined because he is having a hard enough time giving up his money to just enter.

myself like many others that are serious competiors we don't enjoy giving up our hard earned money, but at the same time most of us can afford it. we do it for our enjoyment, and bragging rights.

i think lower entry fees will help more than anything. if you don't lower it then rasie it by say 10 bucks and start doing payouts for 1st through 3rd. i know it may not pay for the trip to the show but it might pay enough to atleast get your entry fees back. i would rather pay 40 bucks and stand a chance to make a little money back.

i know of a tacoma that will give a crx or s10 a run for their money also

it is an investment guys....get it...you pay lots of money for a system but u cant afford money for an entry fee...the entry fee is an investment for finals...thats the way i look at it

I know it's probably been brought up before, but what about an MSRP class. Set a max amount that can be spent on subs and amps, and use the manufactures suggested retail pricing as limits. Someone with cheaper stuff in a CRX is still prob going to be louder, but it would at least give the kids with their package deal setups a place to start. The only problem i see is companies making limited runs of equipment and pricing it low as can be just to get their guys in the classes.

Honestly, I like the db5 format as well, i just don't think it is promoted heavily enough.

1996 USPL The bucket won one of those classes. $501-$2000.

one word again............




BUCKET



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BUCKET

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well I would have to say that if the entry fees are an investment towards finals than why in the hell would it cost me so much for finals. What is it like 150$ to get into finals. Thats crazy but I will pay it cause I want to place and win their so I got to pay it but after all the other fees we have paid to get in to compete finals should be a lil cheaper or free for everything I have paid all year. I got my points and earned a INVITE to finals and with that INVITE I still got to pay an outrageous fee to get in their also. Than just to add a lil more theirs places like the KCIR this pass weekend that it cost me 17$ a person to get in the gate X4 ppl is 70$ plus 35$ a class. Think of the amount you pay all year to get in gates and usaci fees to compete and yearly memberships.

aphinney wrote:

it is an investment guys....get it...you pay lots of money for a system but u cant afford money for an entry fee...the entry fee is an investment for finals...thats the way i look at it

I can pay alot for mysetup but damn they kill us in fees for eveything

BillGass wrote:

XFL-Leader wrote:

2. Retail involvement. I believe it begins with the Retailer. If the local shops are not into competition and are not promoting sound offs. Then the custumers don't know anything about it. Even if the local shops have to work together.

This is why we came up with the SOUNDBEAT OFF's. They're open format, not pressure on the kids. If the line isn't huge behind them they may run 6 or more times in a row, to get the hang of it, find their note etc. Then they will go run their car (charge) and come back through later to see what they can really do. Others will swap boxes with friends, swap amps, pull back seats, u name it . All having a good time, sharing ideas and getting excited about what we do. If you have a meter, a mic and a speaker (PA) you can have a show like this. Then when they come to a USACi show they know what to expect, have an idea of what they are capable of and hopefully have a good time.

Even though I have never done them, local classes are probably the way to go. Trunk, stock, mod, sb. 4 simple classes. Small trophies, small entry fee and let them aspire to compete in the regular classes. Year ago we ran a 'virgin' class. you could only compete in it once. You were only allowed in it had NEVER competed before. A true virgin. Unlike what many women may think, you can only be a virgin once. Your vriginity never comes back so once and only once. EVERY winner in that class went on to spend a good chunk of change with the store. I forgot all about that. I may have to bring it back next year.

OK I am done rambling. My main point was to reinforce that if we, the retailers, do not get involved it's not going to work. The calsses can be changed a billionty times, but without us getting our hands dirty, without us showing the new kids that this is fun, that we care, they will never come back, they will never bring their friends out. We generate the excitement, we have to show them it's fun & cool to do what we do.

10 pages of searching for reasons or methods to bring in more competitors ... and 2 guys get it!

USACi or regional USACi directors do not bring in new competitors ... retailers do! And those potential competitors shall go forth and become "potential CUSTOMERS." And if anyone believes that there is another reason for doing a sanctioned show beyond adding to a retailer's bottom line, then they are sadly mistaken.

Bill Gas holds free shows, and promots the Dung Pile out of usaci this brings kids to his store to see the comps, and helps him sell what is in the store through them same kids watching what is kicking ass outside in the lanes at the same time if you ask me he is the one that gets it.

sanman wrote:

Bill Gas holds free shows, and promots the Dung Pile out of usaci this brings kids to his store to see the comps, and helps him sell what is in the store through them same kids watching what is kicking ass outside in the lanes at the same time if you ask me he is the one that gets it.

Damned right!!!!!

thats right Jeff you tell them

BILL GASS FOR PRESIDENT!

Bill Gass is the only reason I came 2 stereo west auto toys we started the team with about 10 cars we sarted n drag and took 2 cars 2 finals here we r 3 yrs later with the largest most dominant team in usaci 08 and it all started with bill mother fn gass. He will do anything 4 almost any1 n this sport if it will help them. Between him and danny britain I owe them everything. I just wanted it 2 b known that this industry could use a lot more people like bill gass. I got hooked up with bill 11 years ago and thru all the crap n compitition he has never ever done me wrong period

you long winder mo fo.. but very important point bill gass and danny britian for president..lmao that would be interesting

Oh yeah I 4got bucket

ha the bucket for president