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84CRX Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 391 Age : 57 Location : Justin, TX. Registration date : 2007-09-19
| Subject: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:43 am | |
| From what I understand (and this so far is only rumor), but CRX's and mini trucks. IE chevy s10 extended cabs ect.., will have major changes in 2008 rules! CRX will be put in modified and/or any system component forward of the rear shock tower will be placed in mod. For first gen CRX owners. This sucks even more.
For mini trucks. Any system component in the bed of the vehicle will also be placed in mod. No audio component can be placed in the bed and remain in stock class.
If you are a CRX owner or a mini truck owner, your vote is needed at the 2008 members meeting to keep this from happening. It's up to you what you want! | |
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super stock crx Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1834 Age : 38 Location : LTX Registration date : 2007-06-24
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:48 am | |
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XFL-Leader Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 320 Age : 55 Location : Knoxville, TN Home of the Volunteers Registration date : 2007-06-30
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:46 am | |
| This happens every year. Sometimes, around April 1st. When the idea goes farther than a rumor, then we will deal with it. | |
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quad box Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1711 Age : 58 Location : Palm Springs,Ca Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:43 am | |
| it won't matter if crx or mini trucks are moved into mod, there will always be a car to take there place? waiting to see what happens at finals | |
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JLG Entertainment Admin
Number of posts : 416 Age : 31 Location : Springdale, Arkansas Registration date : 2007-06-21
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:41 am | |
| I think everyone has no clue | |
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TECH114 Thats a Lot of Posts!
Number of posts : 4748 Age : 50 Location : Town of DBs Registration date : 2007-06-24
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:47 am | |
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BillGass Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 893 Age : 52 Registration date : 2007-06-25
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:30 pm | |
| - 84CRX wrote:
- If you are a CRX owner or a mini truck owner, your vote is needed at the 2008 members meeting to keep this from happening. It's up to you what you want!
Regardless of whether this is rumor or not, whether it has a snowballs chance in Hell of passing or not, EVERYONE possible should be at the members meeting. Voice your opinion and hear all sides to ANY proposed rule/class changes. This is our organization. OK, so Darville gets all the money from it but it is ours. (HEHE) Your voice counts and when changes are proposed, voice your opinion, hear the other side(s) and then make a vote based on what is BEST for USACi. Not a selfish vote. Just because your Studabaker won't be allowed to compete in Mini SPL doesn't mean that you vote against Mini being a class. Every organization has to evolve to keep it's members excited and active and, most importantly to keep new members coming in. As a retailer, we support USACi because of the excitement that it can generate. This excitement makes kids want to spend their money on car audio as opposed to a new iPOD, And if outlawing your Studabaker from Mini SPL could attract hundreds of potential new customers, I am sorry, I am going to vote to outlaw your Studabaker or vote for a Studabaker friendly class. OK, I am getting off my soapbox. Anyone still awake? | |
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Pro_Mom Novice Contributor
Number of posts : 124 Age : 62 Registration date : 2007-07-11
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:51 pm | |
| I agree with Bill everyone should be at the members meeting that is where all the rules are made changed or whatever happens. I am for bringing in new members to usaci but I don't want to loose any either. Therefore rules are rules rumors are rumors but if you are really worried about it then make it your voice known at the members meeting. But for now have fun see you all at finals and get loud, get drunk and have fun like we all do!!!!! | |
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Gabe Sanchez Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 666 Age : 47 Location : AZ Registration date : 2007-06-26
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:37 pm | |
| I am all for it if it happens. | |
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ibbangin Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1906 Age : 37 Location : tyler,texas Registration date : 2007-07-13
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:35 pm | |
| thats retarded!!!!! i can understand reclassing amps,but cars i already got too much money in this without having to worry bout them reclassing my car!!!! retarded!!!!!! | |
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ibbangin Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1906 Age : 37 Location : tyler,texas Registration date : 2007-07-13
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:43 pm | |
| - USACI MD wrote:
- I think everyone has no clue
please clue us in????? | |
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bumpin s-10 Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 747 Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:44 pm | |
| To put those vehicles in mod would then put them at a disadvantage. If you want to draw more "kids" to the sport, make a user friendly class...like a "trunk class....trunk cars only. That would make a lot of sense to me. SUV's have an advantage over trunk cars as well...are we going to separate out every vehicle that has a supposed advantage? This issue can never fully be taken care of. Even if a class for just trunk cars is made...I gaurantee the competitors will find exactly what trunk car is louder than the others..then what do you do? Outlaw that particular vehicle as well?
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towboatbobby Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1075 Age : 54 Location : Philadelphia,Ms. Registration date : 2007-06-27
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:45 pm | |
| Im thinking that way also-make a trunk class | |
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ibbangin Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1906 Age : 37 Location : tyler,texas Registration date : 2007-07-13
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:33 pm | |
| - Pro_Mom wrote:
- I agree with Bill everyone should be at the members meeting that is where all the rules are made changed or whatever happens. I am for bringing in new members to usaci but I don't want to loose any either. Therefore rules are rules rumors are rumors but if you are really worried about it then make it your voice known at the members meeting. But for now have fun see you all at finals and get loud, get drunk and have fun like we all do!!!!!
everyone cant take off work for meetings!!!! to go over stupid rules, because everyone whines about crx's...those people will whine bout sometin different if they move crx to mod...so if i buy a different car to compete with next year and they outlaw that one!!!!!!! i'm just screwed because usaci started catering to whiners!!!!!!! | |
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ibbangin Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1906 Age : 37 Location : tyler,texas Registration date : 2007-07-13
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:39 pm | |
| how about this.... lets put people that use dd, kicker,db drive,IA,etc in mod....because people with bump'ems,thump audio ,and h2o pro's cant compete.... | |
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Gabe Sanchez Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 666 Age : 47 Location : AZ Registration date : 2007-06-26
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:40 pm | |
| I own both ... I still agree with it ... so being a whiner is out of the question. | |
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ibbangin Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1906 Age : 37 Location : tyler,texas Registration date : 2007-07-13
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:44 pm | |
| just because u own both doesn't mean that u disproved what i said...i've personally heard people whining bout crx's.so because u own two vehicles doesn't make anything i've said "out of the question" ......out of curiousity what is your reason for thinking that this is a good idea? | |
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Gabe Sanchez Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 666 Age : 47 Location : AZ Registration date : 2007-06-26
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:28 am | |
| i feel it is too much of an advantage in stock classes. i own both to have that advantage. i have also never agreed with the 30 inch rule for mini's using the bed. i am not whining. i am a firm believer in a level competition. i live with the rules and build to suit them no matter what. I just think on mini's if you removed at LEAST half that 30" it would be better and more fair. Personally I say NO equipment in the bed for stock. As far a rex's go ... they can almost go head to head in mod classes now, so why not impliment a strut tower limitation?
Every local comp we attend we show up and scare all the "potential newbies" because of the numbers we do. We all have these cars. How is that good for the sport? Evolution says only the strong will survive ... that is true because all we have done is weed out the week.
so if you think i am still whining then come out and say it. | |
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84CRX Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 391 Age : 57 Location : Justin, TX. Registration date : 2007-09-19
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:58 am | |
| - Gabe Sanchez wrote:
- i feel it is too much of an advantage in stock classes. i own both to have that advantage. i have also never agreed with the 30 inch rule for mini's using the bed. i am not whining. i am a firm believer in a level competition. i live with the rules and build to suit them no matter what. I just think on mini's if you removed at LEAST half that 30" it would be better and more fair. Personally I say NO equipment in the bed for stock. As far a rex's go ... they can almost go head to head in mod classes now, so why not impliment a strut tower limitation?
Every local comp we attend we show up and scare all the "potential newbies" because of the numbers we do. We all have these cars. How is that good for the sport? Evolution says only the strong will survive ... that is true because all we have done is weed out the week.
so if you think i am still whining then come out and say it. Because not all crx's or mini trucks are created equal. Some are more equal then other. But that's beside the point. If you start reclassifying cars because of what kind of car it is or the advantage/disadvantage a vehicle has over another, where will it stop? Yes I to would like to see new people in this sport, but not at the price of lossing current competitors.
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ibbangin Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1906 Age : 37 Location : tyler,texas Registration date : 2007-07-13
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:01 am | |
| i never said gabe was whinning, but obviously the rock hit!!if i had something to say to u personally. i'd already have said it...dont try to call me out... i asked for your opinions because u didn't explain yourself... u just said u were for "it" if "it' happened....if people give up or not started because someone's doing high numbers.they weren't a very good compititor anyway...i'd say those people cant endure adversity and probably need to continue as a spectator.... if this were a racing org,it wouldn't make sense to outlaw honda's because alot of people did low quarter mile times and potetial "newbies" were scared.... i guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. | |
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Tim Schaffer Above Average Contributor
Number of posts : 655 Registration date : 2007-06-25
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:04 am | |
| usaci will loose alot of ppl if this happens nuff said | |
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ibbangin Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1906 Age : 37 Location : tyler,texas Registration date : 2007-07-13
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:09 am | |
| if it's an advantage they can buy one...(i got one for sale) it's not like a newbie cant find one! if ur going to compete.... u do get to choose what u compete with right?there's alot of other more efficent ways to remedy that problem....maybe a have a beginers class and only let beginers compete in those classes.... | |
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ibbangin Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1906 Age : 37 Location : tyler,texas Registration date : 2007-07-13
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:10 am | |
| is this even a real issue or did someone just make this up????? | |
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84CRX Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 391 Age : 57 Location : Justin, TX. Registration date : 2007-09-19
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:23 am | |
| - ibbangin wrote:
- is this even a real issue or did someone just make this up?????
It's a real issue as it came from a USACI judge running a show and was said buy this judge at more then one show this past weekend. Sorry! Can't remember the judges name. This issue of the crx goes back to 2001 and 2002 season. The answer to the CRX issue then was a Chevy s10 extended cab truck. Team Zier Box was trying to catch me all year and finally did so at "The Last Roundup" in Fort Worth TX. Where they won. It took them the whole year and the bed of an s10 for the equipment to finally do so. So like you said. There is better ways to get loud in other vehicles. You just have to work at it to do so. | |
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justbump'n Novice Contributor
Number of posts : 215 Age : 48 Location : Hook's Texas Registration date : 2007-06-23
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:39 am | |
| Okay, we all know that all cars and truck's are made diffrently right??? The same is true about the same make and model of cars and truck's,true? Not all CRX's and S-10's have the same res freq! So what do you have to do???? You have to put in work to get them loud!!!!!!!!Now I own a 1997nissan ext.cab truck, I would like to own Ibbangin's CRX but i cannot afford to do that!!!!!!!! But im not upset at this because I can work on my truck to see how far i can take it!!!!!You never know it might beat a crx in the lane's and be the next thing to have!!!!!!!Now if you want to reclassifie something then do it to street beat!!!!!!!! Make a pro class for members and a regular class for newbies!!!!!!!! The reason i say this is because when a new person come's to compete and see's a CRX or S-10 or NISSAN or whatever doing a 150+ in street beat 1 yeah it's a little intimadating for them,it was for me!!!!!!! But there are way's to make street beat to were peaple with everyday ground pounder's can go head to head and see what this sport is all about and have fun instead of going up against some one trying to get point's for FINALS!!!!!!!I dont want to crx's or anything else change up!!!!!!! But i do agree that some thing's need to be fixed so that new peep's and old peep's alike can have fun and keep on competing in the SPORT that we love!!!!!!! Just my $5.00worth!!!!!!!!! | |
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djman37 Basic Contributor
Number of posts : 456 Age : 57 Location : Dallas, TX Registration date : 2007-06-25
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:18 am | |
| I've heard some of the same talk. The discussion only talks about STOCK, not any other class. My thought was keeping stock within a certain year of production. How many years out of production can a car model be and still be considered stock?? 10, 15, 20, or 17? My other thought is that this vehicle specific would never fly as a member vote, it would just be handed down as a rule.
Yes, I own a CRX...if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. | |
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The Ambulance Novice Contributor
Number of posts : 229 Registration date : 2007-08-27
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:30 am | |
| Here's my 2 cents....right off the bat no not a fan of rexs or minis but right now all is legal so i deal with it. someone said we'll lose competitors who have rexs if rules change but i know about half dozen who have allready quit do to rex's and trucks shiit i thought of quit myself due to this BUT it took me a very long time and i finnally did something with my neon now i do a pretty damn good number in the TRUNK CAR do i think i would place alot better if i knew i didn't have to compete against them hell yea but like i said rules are rules and you got to live with them don't kill me about this just my two cents. | |
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quad box Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1711 Age : 58 Location : Palm Springs,Ca Registration date : 2007-06-22
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:02 am | |
| none of this will happen but i know what will lets see how finals turn out????? | |
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05gliguy Advanced Contributor
Number of posts : 1964 Age : 36 Location : Olive Branch, MS Registration date : 2007-07-03
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:33 am | |
| The ambulance is backkkkkk!!!! | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Your vote counts Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:48 am | |
| I like the sounds of this new rumor. Something does need done to level the playing field abit. But if you handycap a crx and mini truck, a SUV will be the new dawg competing. Then what.
Adding a trunk class .... great idea, if there wasn't already too many classes.
What sucks is going to a show, having 20+ classes and almost everyone taking home a 1st place trophy or only having 1 person in that class.
True, everyone wants to win, but whats the fun of winning if you don't have any competition.
I would actually like to see less classes in Usaci |
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