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PostSubject: DD m2B official ruling   Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:40 pm

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can some one give me the official rulling on what the dd m2b rating is for 4 ohm? site says 1700 @ 1 ohm, dealer of mine says 2300 @ 1 ohm

just wanna know.
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:27 pm

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so no matter what if it says a number some where doesnt matter where as long as its from the manufacturer thats what you take?

im trying to figure it out.
We take the highest rating from the manufacturer. If that is not avail we make it unlimited. If there are discrepancies we will send it in for testing. In this case the manufacturer was honest and gave us the actual rating so there is no discrepancy.

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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:30 pm

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Spoke to DD today. At 14.4 they rate it at 2400 watts 1 ohm

Per the company it is rated at 810 watts @ 4 ohm RMS 14.4volts.

810 would be the USACI Rating...

That is per the manufacturer directly about 3 minutes ago VIA telephone...
study Rolling Eyes . I come up with 600 @4 using the 4 ohm extrapolating

Yes, but the manufacturer gave us the true 4ohm RMS output. That saves the time and money of sending it off to be rated. It is 810 watts
Thanks to DD for not making it an issue. Says a lot about the company...

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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:32 pm

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LOL this is so dumb.....a m3a which does way more power than a m2b is 600 @ 4 but a m2b is 810 LMAO......it just gets better and better!

Perhaps we need to look at that one as well. Thanks for the heads up... :-)

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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:16 pm

2400@1/4=600 SO THATS UNDER RATING THERE PRODUCTS

YOU MEAN THEY OVER RATED IT DONT YOU
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:35 pm

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DD could have also rated these amps at 600@4 but they chose not to

Why should companies under rate or make a specific rating for their amplifiers just to cater to Usaci. It should be the other way around Usaci should cater to the manufacturers. I know its crazy right,its almost as if they dont care if their amps are rated to be "usaci friendly" or not. Shocked

actually the opposite is in fact correct. They do not want the embarrassment of getting fronted off if we test the amp. They are to be commended for being honest and not causing the competitors harm by rating the amps wrong.

All any manufacturer should do is "THE RIGHT THING" and rate the amps properly. Anything else is false, misleading, and sends a clear message about the ethics of a company. Rating an amp improperly to be "ANYTHING FRIENDLY" would be reason to DQ a product line.

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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:42 pm

Better get to dqing amps then,lol.
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:56 pm

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LOL this is so dumb.....a m3a which does way more power than a m2b is 600 @ 4 but a m2b is 810 LMAO......it just gets better and better!

Perhaps we need to look at that one as well. Thanks for the heads up... :-)

No need to waste your time on the m3, its the exact same amp as the cactus sounds pf600 that has already passed at 770 watts with a 30% tolerance (which is stupid if you ask me). What you should be looking at is the rd d5 thats a bigger amp rated At 500 @ 4ohm. With the 30% tolerance itll have to be 650watts or less. Not gonna happen.
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:57 pm

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Better get to dqing amps then,lol.

We do it as they are discovered. :-)

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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:59 pm

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LOL this is so dumb.....a m3a which does way more power than a m2b is 600 @ 4 but a m2b is 810 LMAO......it just gets better and better!

Perhaps we need to look at that one as well. Thanks for the heads up... :-)

No need to waste your time on the m3, its the exact same amp as the cactus sounds pf600 that has already passed at 770 watts with a 30% tolerance (which is stupid if you ask me). What you should be looking at is the rd d5 thats a bigger amp rated At 500 @ 4ohm. With the 30% tolerance itll have to be 650watts or less. Not gonna happen.

Uh, ok.

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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:07 pm

Since you seem to be lost in that last post, ill make it easier for you. The rd d5 is a "usaci friendly" amp that most of the competitors use and win with. If protested it will not pass for 500 watts. Even with the 30% tolerance for power on protests. People are getting 5000+ watts out of them on 12v systems. Make sence now?
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:26 pm

and the cactus wich passed the bench test rated at 600@4 will do dam near the same wattage as the d5 man

the m3 will also do 5500 watts on 14.4v


this is not new but its a new game to come on here and try to get what you want wich is a re-structured usaci by trying to start Dung Pile on amps lol

Terry stay where your doing well man in MWSPL its a great format that works for you, and im pretty sure ralph is not going to restructure his format just to get you back but i may be wrong man


good luck in your battle
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:59 pm

Not trying to battle anyone man just stating the obvious. He said if a manufacturer is rating amps just to be competitive in usaci then they should be moved to unlimited (like atomic back in the day) just telling him which one to start with. Besides usaci competitors i personally havent heard of anyone that uses a d5 or anyone using them for daily use either. Seems like they are only available to certain people kinda like the treo amp, same deal there dont see anyone using those daily either,odd. Maybe i should just buy some amps and send them in to be protested.


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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:09 am

dammit man your to nice in your old age

my push push nudge nudge didnt work
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:13 am

nice try....lol
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:17 am

Lol sorry man i have no desire to argue with anymore, been there done that it does nothing but make us look bad.
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:21 am

Besides the last year i competed at finals was in 10 at usaci, i ran mwspl in 09. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:04 am

D5 arent special to anyone. Lately stock was low because RD went direct to the build house for the latest order verses paying george at sja to bring them in and mark them up. So its been a slow process and made it hard for people to buy them when RD didnt have them.


As for the power... 5000w from a d5 on a 12v setup is not common and takes alot of testing as well itsits dirty as hell. That amp clean as usaci tests them im pretty confident would pass the 4 ohm.tests. once you get away from the perfect 1ohm the amp needs to show 5000 on a clamp the power drops fast. Clean settings on.12v batteries average joe is lucky to break 4000w
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:36 pm

4k is still ALOT lol
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:53 pm

clamp lol
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:59 pm

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4k is still ALOT lol
compared to what?
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:19 pm

the midwest guys arent used to being in the bigger power so they achieve great numbers off of efficiency, and build. that will peak and stop in order to get the bigger numbers alot more testing and power is needed as well as builds
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:26 pm

idk i dropped 2 more k on mine and gained 1.3 db from 2700 to 4700 sitting at a 155.3 (same day) thats the box i use for efficiency and i think the only thing id have to change is the port size its just too small for the big power...

but lets not get off subject. my question was awnsered. thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:45 pm

Thats not horrible.
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:47 pm

it is horrible when from 1500-2000 is 1 db lol
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:08 pm

Thats better than mine. Takes 1000w for a db
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:09 pm

after 2k she falls on her face.... (sorta)
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:15 pm

smaller box's take more power

just FYI
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:23 pm

Perhaps. But I don't play with baby power so I'm not concerned with that
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PostSubject: Re: DD m2B official ruling   Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:17 am

Idk lol my box is pretty small.....
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