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PostSubject: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:43 am

I VOLUNTEER MY TIME TO COME TO FINALS, AND WORK FOR WHAT A ROOM FOR THE WEEKEND, HAVE AN ACHING BACK ON THE TRIP HOME, SORE FEET FROM STANDING ALL DAY LONG, LACK OF SLEEP.


ALL YOU PUSSY ASS BITCHES THAT DONT LIKE THE WAY YOU GET VERIFIED CAN KISS MY ASS, AND I HOPE SOMETHING SLIDES AND YOU GET YOUR ASS HANDED TO YOU BECAUSE THATS ALL I EVER WANTED TO PREVENT NOW I DONT GIVE 2 SHITS ABOUT IT.


RALPH SORRY MAN IM NOT PUTTING UP WITHT EH CRYING LITTLE BITCHES KNOWN AS COMPETITORS THAT YOU HAVE ANYMORE.

JENNISA SORRY ALSO I WANTED TO BE THERE FOR YOU AND THE ORG TO HELP, AND DO THE BEST JOB I CAN BUT THATS OBVIOUSELY AN ISSUE WITH SOME PEOPLE WITH ALL THE BITCHING, CRYING, AND PHONE CALLS YOU HAVE RECIEVED.

YOU GUYS NEED A NEW VERIFICATION JUDGE IM DONE WITH IT, AND PELASE DONT CALL EM BCAUSE IT ISNT GOING TO CHANGE
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:44 am

I THINK I KNOW WHERE SIBLEY WAS COMING FROM WHEN HE SAID NOMORE
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:50 am

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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:56 am

Man. I think you really need to breath...relax.. and read what people are saying instead of getting all crazy assuming something is being said thats not.
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:14 am

Jeff, there was no complaining on my part. I simply asked questions on things that I was unsure about as last year this was nonissue. I stated in my first post "the batteries have been removed". I also asked if sliding the box forward was enough to view was sufficient. Instead I was called a "crying kiss me please" when Alan mention other areas that I happened to agree with. I guess I should accept this treatment and carry on.

You've answered my questions in your rant so I'm good.
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:43 pm

Hold up, this guy is a judge for usaci? Frankly, you seem tired of this sport and seeing your posts on here have me second guessing if this usaci competition is even worth it. I don't spend thousands of dollars on equipment to have an overly emotional judge have his emotions get the best of him and throw reason out the window. You are a 40 year old man yet still resort to name calling? I would expect that from some people but not a certified usaci judge.

I have been lurking these forums for a good while now but this compelled me to make an account on here. I don't personally know you, but your attitude is ridiculous. Sounds like you have some personal problems yourself or with other people, which for a usaci judge should be kept on the low. You know calling the person via phone.. seems professionalism has disappeared in this day and age. This is uncalled for brother.
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:54 pm

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Hold up, this guy is a judge for usaci? Frankly, you seem tired of this sport and seeing your posts on here have me second guessing if this usaci competition is even worth it. I don't spend thousands of dollars on equipment to have an overly emotional judge have his emotions get the best of him and throw reason out the window. You are a 40 year old man yet still resort to name calling? I would expect that from some people but not a certified usaci judge.

I have been lurking these forums for a good while now but this compelled me to make an account on here. I don't personally know you, but your attitude is ridiculous. Sounds like you have some personal problems yourself or with other people, which for a usaci judge should be kept on the low. You know calling the person via phone.. seems professionalism has disappeared in this day and age. This is uncalled for brother.

I cant agree with you more..This kind of attitude sure doesnt help get new competitors in the lanes now does it...If you get that upset it might be time to move on and do something more constructive than to come on here and call people names..Way to go
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:56 pm

my attitude isnt the issue people thinking Dung Pile is one sided, and people wouldnt be judged the same way is, and oh when they dont get there way they \"Female dog\", moan, complain, and herass people on the phone because they wants what they want.

i was a volunteer judge not a hired one that only came to finals to ensure a level playing field all around. well now you have to fone someone else oh and good luck btw.

im not new and the thousands of dollars you spend i have alread done many times over. if you wanna compete do so but dont puss out and use this as an excuse not to.

some of you are happy that i aint judging because now you know you will get away with what you want, but so will everyone else
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:57 pm

<<<<<<< successfull in many other areas including this one like i said.

all you competitors think you need to be catored ot and thats not true, but what you need to do is build within the rules, and be judged according to them. if thtas to hard thne maybe your the one not cut out for this
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:26 pm

I really dont see how you gathered that from the posts in the other thread. That thread really wasnt to bad at all besides your lose cannon going off. But yeah we should "fuk off... .we are all pussy ass bitches and crying like little bitches." real good stuff there from a world finals verification judge. And you tell me ralph actually encurages you to talk to competitors this way?? Now thats crazy. Unfortunately the "deal with it or stay home" attitude you and ralph say to us all the time is whats happening.... people will and are staying home.
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:25 pm

sanman wrote:
I VOLUNTEER MY TIME TO COME TO FINALS, AND WORK FOR WHAT A ROOM FOR THE WEEKEND, HAVE AN ACHING BACK ON THE TRIP HOME, SORE FEET FROM STANDING ALL DAY LONG, LACK OF SLEEP.


ALL YOU PUSSY ASS BITCHES THAT DONT LIKE THE WAY YOU GET VERIFIED CAN KISS MY ASS, AND I HOPE SOMETHING SLIDES AND YOU GET YOUR ASS HANDED TO YOU BECAUSE THATS ALL I EVER WANTED TO PREVENT NOW I DONT GIVE 2 SHITS ABOUT IT.


RALPH SORRY MAN IM NOT PUTTING UP WITHT EH CRYING LITTLE BITCHES KNOWN AS COMPETITORS THAT YOU HAVE ANYMORE.

JENNISA SORRY ALSO I WANTED TO BE THERE FOR YOU AND THE ORG TO HELP, AND DO THE BEST JOB I CAN BUT THATS OBVIOUSELY AN ISSUE WITH SOME PEOPLE WITH ALL THE BITCHING, CRYING, AND PHONE CALLS YOU HAVE RECIEVED.

YOU GUYS NEED A NEW VERIFICATION JUDGE IM DONE WITH IT, AND PELASE DONT CALL EM BCAUSE IT ISNT GOING TO CHANGE

I take it that someone pissed you off.
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:01 pm

Alan your either blind or just cant read it has nothing to do with me, and im not the judge im done with this all togather.

its no point to say anything else at all
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:19 pm

Sanman did a badass job doing verification at finals last year, and seeing people \&quot;Female dog\&quot; about how he did his job = Cow poopy
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:22 pm

Know My Name And Fear It wrote:
Sanman did a badass job doing verification at finals last year, and seeing people \"Female dog\" about how he did his job = Cow poopy
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:26 pm

Know My Name And Fear It wrote:
Sanman did a badass job doing verification at finals last year, and seeing people \"Female dog\" about how he did his job = Cow poopy

No one said he didn't.

The point is being missed and no one bitc hed about anything.
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:51 pm

um then why was there so many phone calls ta usaci as soon as he posted tire wells need to be looked in......biotchin about jeff ,,looking in them

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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:16 pm

Ummm, I made zero calls. Why would I need to? It was all out here in the open for all to see.

Don't honestly know why you'd call it bitching, if this is how people like their org represented then I guess all is normal. Not once did I complain, I stated I would more or less have to tear my car apart for something to be inspected that did not exist. Alan asked if all boxes needed to be moved and voids inspected, choosing S-10 as an example-----that flipped Jeff's switch. Now, no boxes were removed, amps pulled last year, but I didn't say that until after Jeff started all of the name calling. So, where did all of the crying come from----ask Jeff, he's the one that shed the first and only tears if you ask me. But who gives a sh it, it's his org---I'm sure new members will be lining up to join.


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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:24 pm

i didnt say u its just they had alot of calls and they wont say who called wich is understandable ... but a few biotching about it
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:49 pm

Yeah
Thats definitely not what we who he was talking to were saying. The simple comment was if one guy had to take stuff apart then anyone else should to. The conversation is still up and plain as day.
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:43 pm

If we want a drama-free environment within USACI (MACO) then alot needs to happen on both sides of the competition. Both sides have to be confident in the system, which has never been the case since I started 10 yrs ago.

1) Regardless of judge, tech inspections and runs should always have the same result for a given car and competitor. The only way to do that is a set of rules that is complete, clear, and enforced. The idea is simple English with thorough explanation, so we shift the focus from finding loopholes to innovative design and fun.

2) From there, we need to efficiently react and change when incidents (big or small) occur. Using a system based solely on competitor feedback is acceptable, but requires a way to quality assurance. Competitor feedback should be divided into 3 types: incident reports, potential for rules abuse, and general suggestions.

Incident Reports
Reporting an incident should be easy and incentivized (ie free entry to 1-3x event for an attributable rule change). Abuse of the system can be prevented by implimenting a "cry wolf" policy (ie you get 3 false incident reports, then they are ignored).

Legitimate incidents should result in immediate action. Approve/Deny the sender and set a deadline for clarifications and changes to the rules. Once it's updated, automatically notify competitors and judges. Everyone is kept in the loop, and everyone can move on to more important things quickly.

Potential for Rules Abuse
Let one of the old dogs (such as Sanman) be counsel to the HBGIC and guide the annual meeting. Based on forum, facebook discussions, pro-actively make clarifications.

General Suggestions
These are strategic-level changes to the org, and should get proper discussion for feasibility. New classes, special events. If there's enough following, time to discuss them, that's what the forum is for.


To address Sanman's issue, the past is the past. Rules and judges were as they were. People who don't use past problems to improve the org are just trolls. How can we setup a framework that quickly plugs holes in the rules and educates judges? You have to think that competitor happiness is directly related to having a stress-free experience.
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:57 pm

the issue i had was based off of past experiences with ALAN, and his thoughts that I wouldnt be fare to one because of issues in the past lead his to question my integrity this is where i said fornicate off, and im done. I dont need this , I dont get paid for this, and I certainly wont put up with it.


to think i wasnt going to jusdge others as the same i would some is a Cow poopy statement, and i saw right through it to what you was really meaning to say.


Have a great finals
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:22 pm

Thanks for clarifying. As a volunteer, you've got every right to participate or not. Thanks for helping thusfar.

Similarly, Alan has every right to question your (and anybody's) integrity. My whole point is that integrity and talk should be irrelevant to the process. Make the rules complete and enforced.

Paying $1k for a complete tear-down is not a replacement for proper tech inspection. The current logistics of finals isn't enough to do it properly... so we get by with an honesty policy and a set of rules with loopholes.

If you're determined to leave USACI's judging to someone less capable, atleast help people identify the problems instead of just the symptoms.
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:28 pm

as you can tell i have no stake in USACI as far as revenue goes so its not something i wish to do. I mean with the competitors the way they are n ow a days follwoing every word they are told by the people they chose to follow then those are the people you need to seek out since it doesnt matter what happens what matters is what they are told by the ones they fallow.
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:53 am

jeff your not understanding what chris is trying to convey to you are you.
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:13 am

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the issue i had was based off of past experiences with ALAN, and his thoughts that I wouldnt be fare to one because of issues in the past lead his to question my integrity this is where i said fornicate off, and im done. I dont need this , I dont get paid for this, and I certainly wont put up with it.


to think i wasnt going to jusdge others as the same i would some is a Cow poopy statement, and i saw right through it to what you was really meaning to say.


Have a great finals
anyone planning on buying into this bs can go to his verification thread and read plain as day the conversation.

Wtf are you talking about? I have no idea what you mean about past experience with me or anyone else... i said exactly wtf i was saying. Nothing hidden. Your problem is your issue with people questioning you. Well jeff..unfortunately this is NOT the military where you keep your mouth shut while someone talks to you like a dog like you apparently think is cool to do... you told john he would have to dismantle his car even if it took 3 hours so you can make sure everything in his spare tire hole is legit and i asked if everyone including s10s would have to make hidden crevices available to see aswell and your bipolar kicked in and you made all these cry baby posts calling us the cry baby. Get off your high horse and read wtf was clearly typed and things would be much different.
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:25 am

Lmao.

I'm gonna go join some other org's boards and see what kind of lulz they provide. No way they can touch.... the SANMAN!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:25 am

P.S. - Chris Baldelli for USACi prez!
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:34 am

ALAN you know all you was trying to do was make it look like i had an issue with trunk cars, and you spun it by saying what about the s10's are you going to make them move there box also. i said spare tire well, and when you can show me one of them in a fornicating s10 where the box is then ill say ok.

any vehicle that has a spare tire well inside the same area that 99% of the equipment is needs it checked bottom line, and you didnt like that this is why you had words to say about the entire thing.


last but not least thats fine with me i dont give 2 shits anymore about it because im done with it all.

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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:41 am

Good lord, man. Get your head out of your ass. You can't single out trunks. That's all anyone was trying to say. He said something about Astros and something else too. Why are you perseverating on S10s?

Also, no fucks are given if you do verification at finals or not. I will say you did a good job last year, but you ain't the only one who can knock on roofs 'round here.
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PostSubject: Re: fornicate OFF   Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:45 am

so a trunk car is the only car that has a spare tire well in it you stupid fornicate????
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