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PostSubject: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:06 am

According to the rule book ANYONE affiliated with a dealer is not allowed to compete in SB1-SB4. They must compete in SB5. So why I am seeing this being overlooked at competitions???
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:08 am

One more thing, when I was judging for MECA we Tech Inspected every vehicle to determine its category to compete in. This is another thing I am not seeing in USACi. WHY????
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:17 am

Because its time for usaci judges to step up their game .actually its been time for many years. Last time inconsistent judging was discuss it was labeled "whining and the whinning was problem with usaci today"

USACI.. this isnt the only person who sees this stuff this way. Just one who finally made it here to voice his thoughts
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:23 am

Yeah, I'm definitely not whining. I just see it as a way for people to cheat. Hell I could have been running any amp I wanted and competed in the 0-600 watt class. No one would have known, cause no one looked at my equipment.
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:56 pm

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Yeah, I'm definitely not whining. I just see it as a way for people to cheat. Hell I could have been running any amp I wanted and competed in the 0-600 watt class. No one would have known, cause no one looked at my equipment.

were you at any multi point events? because thats were it should count
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:30 pm

this used to not be an issue back in the day when i started this sport, and i had the best director i have ever seen in MIKE OUTLAW he did it fair and square, and even came donw on me once or twice wich made me really start diggin in the rules so it wouldnt happen anymore
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:19 pm

Steve it counts at every show. Its about cheating yes.. but its more about the image usaci has and its capabilities of bringing and keeping new guys. Shows are ran with veterans in mind. Who know the rules and a decent bit of the time try to follow them
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:02 pm

The event I went to was a triple point event
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:06 pm

sad to say but most directors are lazy, and the reason usaci has this type of reputation is due to them
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:47 pm

Yeah sad to say I know of 4 competitors that should have been competing in SB5 that competed in SB1 and SB2. It was my first time in years returning to USACi so I didn't make a ruckus. I was there to have fun. Next year will be a different story as I will be full on competing and trying to get as many points as possible. So I will not hesitate to call someone out at the comps.

I did that at MECA and was asked to be a judge cause I knew more of the rules than most. All it takes is reading and comprehending.
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:21 pm

so since you brought this up, and its an issue

WHO WERE THEY?????????????????????????
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:08 pm

JUST NEED TA BE HONEST GORSH DAMN IT .. HELL I RAN SB 5 FOR 2 YEARS JUST BECAUSE I GOT SUBS AT COST ....DIDNT WORK FOR ANY SHOP BACK THEN....
AND ITS NOT ONLY USACI
I RUN DRAG AND MWSPL AND DRAG NEVER REALLY CHECKED MY KIDS CAR HELL HE RAN FOR OVER 1 YEAR IN WRONG CLASS BECAUSE OF 2 MANY BATTS.. HELL I WAS NEW AND NEVER KNEW ....
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:27 pm

I believe I know the show and possibly competitors he is referring to, and I believe if they would have been told/pushed into SB5 -- they simply would not have competed with the level of equipment they had. At least 3 or 4 of them for sure -- from 135.2 to a 141.7 would you go into SB5? I didn't compete at the show, just stopped by to help out for a bit while we were "part searching" for a fellow competitor so he could hopefully get back on the road to British Columbia.
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:56 pm

I didn't come to yours....I had to work that day^^^^^ Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:00 pm

sanman wrote:
so since you brought this up, and its an issue

WHO WERE THEY?????????????????????????

Not gonna name names. Not my place, wasn't my show, and I wasn't judging. Don't want to cause any trouble for anyone, was just wondering why this has been overlooked, if its just at discretion. Now I know.

Not even gonna say what show it was at, SORRY!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:51 pm

THEN WHY ARE YOU ON HERE COMPLAINING MAN IS EE YOU AS A PART OF THE PROBLEM AND NOT THE SOLUTION BECAUSE YOU AINT GOT THE STONES TO DIME THEM THE fornicate OUT.

INSTEAD YOU ARE GOING TO LET THEM GO UNIDENTIFIED TO ATTEND SHOWS AND fornicate OTHERS OVER


WAY TO HAVE SOME INTEGRITY
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:51 pm

ITS OVERLOOKED BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WITH SMALL PEBBLES
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:59 pm

Name call all you want man. This was my first USACi show in years. And I'm not complaining, I was just wondering if this is a normal practice in USACi. It wasn't my show. And your talking INTEGRITY? Way to come into a thread acting like a man child.
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:10 pm

LIKE I SAID YOUR NOT A STAND UP GUY IN MY OPINION BECAUSE YOU ARE ALLOWING THESE SCUM BAGS TO DO WHAT THEY DID, AND SCREW THOSE PEOPLE THAT SHOULDNT BE DONE THIS WAY
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:17 pm

Your entitled to your opinion
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:22 pm

ITS MORE THAN AN OPINION I SEE YOU AS MUCH AS A PROBLEM AS THEY ARE AND THATS A FACT
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:26 pm

Its a fact that its your opinion. Now dont make me go all e-thug and turn on my CAPS LOCK.


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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:01 am

Ahhhh shite you have to admit that is fornicating funny!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:18 am

I was at this show! I checked everything with a couple exceptions i was in every car and verified everyone .you are full of S H I T!
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:21 am

Well Chris my car was never specced. No one ever looked at mine. So I'm full of S H I T that shop owners and shop employees are competing in SB1 & SB2???
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:20 am

Nobody looked in the cars ?.could have ran any amp ? Yea full of S H I T! Lmao
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:17 am

Say what you want Chris. We both know the cars were not specced. Plus my question was answered on the other forum by Jeremy in a tasteful manner.
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:13 am

Well if your at a show and someones in the wrong class let it be known right than and there instead of letting it slide and than after the fact bringing it up on the forum..
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:46 am

I brought it up after reading the full rule book. Was wondering why, if it was common. Apparently, in my area it is due to lack of competitors to fill classes. Which is a very reasonable answer to me. Cause I remember judging MECA and how hard it was to fill classes. So this thread can be closed. I didn't come to ask the question to make a big deal out of it. Was just wondering if it was common practice. My question was answered on a local forum in a tasteful manner and I thank Jeremy for that.
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PostSubject: Re: Just a quick question   Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:02 am

thats not a reasonble answer and if this is one jeremy gave you then what a joke he is



see yu dont get it this is a big deal and its everyones part to help police up the Cow poopy thats going on and the problem is everyone wants to come on here and say something about it then not have the balls enough to name the people thats fornicating it up.


but you named the person and its the director and this is why usaci has the image it does right now
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